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Motherwell v Kilmarnock 30/08/2025


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10 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

I am.old fashioned but I want my goalkeeper to save shots etc,  not to be an outfield player. If JB not happy with ox then get another keeper in.  That crowd today shows that neutrals also want to come and see us play but pointless if you have a poor keeper

Ward is doing basic stuff with the ball at his feet. I’m pretty sure Ox could manage that and main thing is that he gives to one of our players then they can do the footy stuff. 

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1 hour ago, robsterwood said:

That second goal we conceded started from us having a goal kick. Lost possession in final 3rd as keeper panicked about playing it out from back and subsequently  flapped and missed the cross. Was similar goal conceded in schools football every week. 

Badly need to address goalkeeper issue. That's 4 points cost now. Also O'Donnell looked uncomfortable at times having to pass instead of launching balls.

You watched a different game from me. Our new style really suits S O'D.

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23 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

Ward is doing basic stuff with the ball at his feet. I’m pretty sure Ox could manage that and main thing is that he gives to one of our players then they can do the footy stuff. 

Totally agree. It's 5 or 10 yard passes he's doing in front of him or to side. Please let ox start next. Wards ruined my last 2 weekends 😭

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27 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Ward is surely playing the way JBA wants him to. 

I doubt very much JBA is telling Ward to make a James Hunt of it by failing to catch a ball under no pressure at all.

The way Ward is playing is very badly, and cost us 4 points in a week, he needs dropped.

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32 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

We won't get another keeper in at this stage surely. We might as well recall Matty. Ward is surely playing the way JBA wants him to. 

I don't think JBA would want Ward to play a style that cost us 3 of last 4 goals conceded.  Feel sorry for Calum but if folk are going to give Stama a hard time for not scoring then ward has to carry can.

However.....feelgood factor under JB is great and give me that style of football ahead of the visiting walloper manager today

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1 minute ago, Spiderpig said:

I doubt very much JBA is telling Ward to make a James Hunt of it by failing to catch a ball under no pressure at all.

The way Ward is playing is very badly, and cost us 4 points in a week, he needs dropped.

That wasn't my point - I was talking about the system players are being asked to play. But I'm sure if JBA thinks he needs dropped - he'll drop him. 

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Just now, grizzlyg said:

I don't think JBA would want Ward to play a style that cost us 3 of last 4 goals conceded.  Feel sorry for Calum but if folk are going to give Stama a hard time for not scoring then ward has to carry can.

However.....feelgood factor under JB is great and give me that style of football ahead of the visiting walloper manager today

Again that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I've seen fans say they think Ward is better suited to this system than Ox - and btw I like Ox 

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19 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Again that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I've seen fans say they think Ward is better suited to this system than Ox - and btw I like Ox 

Ward makes simple passes. 5 or 10 yards side or front. He looks anxious every time he played them. It's something ox could do. We need to have the basics of a keeper. Handling balls and not dropping them. Or misjudging them. Stama done well today I thought. Held ball up well and work rate 5 star.

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21 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

Again that wasn't the point I was trying to make. I've seen fans say they think Ward is better suited to this system than Ox - and btw I like Ox 

I know me dear, I just think no point having a goalie good with feet but unable to save shots or collect crosses. It's like being in a time machine and back to 1994, great side but woods in goal

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19 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Ward makes simple passes. 5 or 10 yards side or front. He looks anxious every time he played them. It's something ox could do. We need to have the basics of a keeper. Handling balls and not dropping them. Or misjudging them. Stama done well today I thought. Held ball up well and work rate 5 star.

Well JBA is the manager and it's on him to make the decision about whether to put Ward in next game 

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Just now, grizzlyg said:

I know me dear, I just think no point having a goalie good with feet but unable to save shots or collect crosses. It's like being in a time machine and back to 1994, great side but woods in goal

Totally grizzly. Rather have you in goals. Keeper should have basic handling skills and judgement for cross balls and shots. Ward has ok reflexes but I'm struggling to see what else. Can't command his area and not great with his feet. 

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4 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Totally grizzly. Rather have you in goals. Keeper should have basic handling skills and judgement for cross balls and shots. Ward has ok reflexes but I'm struggling to see what else. Can't command his area and not great with his feet. 

Cheers dude, I am 5'4 but decent player with my feet. But does that make me good goalie? Feck me i still get chipped at 5 a side 🤣🤣🤣

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3 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:

Cheers dude, I am 5'4 but decent player with my feet. But does that make me good goalie? Feck me i still get chipped at 5 a side 🤣🤣🤣

Lol bet you can catch a ball. Ward never had much to do. You could have enjoyed an aperol spritz between saves.  I want to like ward but we can't keep dropping points. 

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5 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Think he's got a point as we not won in 4. Jury still out. I'm sure most would have expected 3 points today.

We haven't lost in 4 either. The jury is out on Jens? Come on. You can't be serious. We are playing some of the best football we have in years. So negative on here. Yeah today was a sore one but it's done. 

In fact we've not lost in ten since he took over 

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