Rangers v Motherwell 27/12/2025

[wellon]

24 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Not sure why any of this needs to be a conspiracy at all.

1. Our officials are poor and often get decisions abysmally wrong.

2. Big teams always get more decisions in their favour. Especially at home. Its a tale as old as time.

3. There will undoubtedly be unconcious bias with all officials. As human beings, we all have that. 

As for the penalty. Thought it was a stonewaller in real time. Less so now Ive seen it from the side view. Fernandez hangs his leg out and there is definite contact, so I think its still a pen, but it is of the softer variety.

If thats a goalkeeper going to ground and not getting the ball and the attacking player takes the contact and goes down, its being given all day long and he is praised for being "clever". Its 100% given at the opposite end, or at least reviewed by VAR.

I'm with you,  I thought at time pen, but after seeing it again not as convinced but it sure as hell would've been given up other end.

[wellon]

2 minutes ago, wellon said:

Celtic get as many dodgy decisions if not more but not as much made of it as all the refs are Masons apparently and they have been on the wrong end of decisions for years .

All that said Rangers do not bad as well.

There will be a dodgy decision on Tuesday,  not the most earth shattering prediction , just hope it doesn't affect the score v them 

Not seen celtic pen v livi but apparently it's a shocker 

[wellfan]

15 hours ago, MJC said:

Or another interpretation is that I don’t buy into half baked conspiracy theories and aren’t seeing things through a cliched “Rangers get everything” set of tinted specs? 🤷‍♂️ 

Calling it a conspiracy is just an easy way to avoid the bigger picture. I’m not saying “Rangers get everything”, it’s about patterns and who benefits over a season in terms of big decisions. If you’re focused on individual incidents, we’re simply looking at this differently.

[wellon]

41 minutes ago, wellon said:

Not seen celtic pen v livi but apparently it's a shocker 

Just watched " pen" , words fail me.

[dennyc]

42 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Not sure why any of this needs to be a conspiracy at all.

1. Our officials are poor and often get decisions abysmally wrong.

2. Big teams always get more decisions in their favour. Especially at home. Its a tale as old as time.

3. There will undoubtedly be unconcious bias with all officials. As human beings, we all have that. 

As for the penalty. Thought it was a stonewaller in real time. Less so now Ive seen it from the side view. Fernandez hangs his leg out and there is definite contact, so I think its still a pen, but it is of the softer variety.

If thats a goalkeeper going to ground and not getting the ball and the attacking player takes the contact and goes down, its being given all day long and he is praised for being "clever". Its 100% given at the opposite end, or at least reviewed by VAR.

Agree with this. No conspiracy but certainly incompetence is an issue with referees and VAR officials. We recall examples of when Motherwell were wronged, but speaking to fans of other Clubs they can easily trot out numerous examples involving their own team.

No doubt there is a subconscious fear of calling it wrong and the subsequent media reaction. That does play a part. More so if the OF are disadvantaged. But all teams suffer, including Rangers at times. Maybe just less so. The fact they were denied a Cup Final win by poor officials is a recent example. Even Collum  acknowledged that error. Or does pointing out that fact  also make me a closet Rangers fan? Or a Liv fan for pointing out how harshly they have been treated all season? Or a Dundee Utd fan if I sometimes agree with Goodwin? 

Whilst Collum is in charge and there is no accountability nothing will change. VAR or no VAR. Sadly it is something we as fans can do nothing about. 

[Kmcalpin]

Over the decades, I've seen both halves of the gruesome twosome benefit consistently from poor officiating. No difference whatsoever between them. There's a number of reasons for that, all of which have been covered here. VAR is not at fault; its the poor officiating behind it. That won't change  

[wellfan]

1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:

Over the decades, I've seen both halves of the gruesome twosome benefit consistently from poor officiating. No difference whatsoever between them. There's a number of reasons for that, all of which have been covered here. VAR is not at fault; its the poor officiating behind it. That won't change  

Totally agree. As I’ve said all along, it’s the idiots operating VAR, not the technology itself. Rangers and Celtic have benefited from this level of incompetence and cheating for decades, VAR or no VAR, while the rest of the league suffers. The only real solution is to bring in officials untainted by the sectarian nonsense that infects the Scottish game. It’ll never happen because the SFA is a shambles, but we should return to the 2010 strike model and hire neutral, top-tier officials from Europe. 

[texanwellfan]

1 hour ago, wellon said:

Just watched " pen" , words fail me.

My take was that it hit defender’s arm but was pushed into it by Celtic player. Never a pk 

[wellon]

2 hours ago, texanwellfan said:

My take was that it hit defender’s arm but was pushed into it by Celtic player. Never a pk 

Only good point is , it didn't happen v us, but I'm sure something will crop up Tues