MJC Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 15 minutes ago, dennyc said: And McInnes now cited for his comments regarding the penalty. Clear pattern emerging here. Dissention in the ranks cannot be tolerated. Clear vibes of “move on, move on, nothing to see here! But if you speak out about this we’re coming down on you” right here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 18 minutes ago, dennyc said: And McInnes now cited for his comments regarding the penalty. Clear pattern emerging here. Dissention in the ranks cannot be tolerated. It's not clear yet whether this is an ill-judged panic measure by the SFA or their usual vindictiveness when challenged. Either way the clubs, as constituent members of the association, should be instituting a complete overhaul of the refereeing system (including VAR) in Scotland to ensure its proper transparency and accountability. Why is the kowtowing to Celtic so blatant when they are only one club? Unfortunately, the clubs seem feeble and self-serving generally and reluctant to combine to stand up for themselves, so any reform is unlikely to happen and the Scottish game will descend in to further farce and loss of credibilty in the "authorities". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 Full investigation of the SFA otherwise known as Celtic Football Association by a third party is required. Will the Celtic players who were pictured mocking our Sam with hands on their head be cited. Will ONeil be cited for having private conversations with Collum and complaining about referee decisions. Its time our club, Hearts and others called out the influence that Celtic have on our game. Its beyond a joke. We need to fight our right for freedom of speach and consistancey of these punishments. There has been many instances throughtout season of players, management questioning decisions. Nothing was done then, so why now? Time our lawyers got involved. The club that has caused the biggest problems getting off practically scot free whilst other clubs are hammered. Time clubs grew a backbone! Watt will get a hefty suspension for this to deflect and made an example of. Its what the CFA do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Well Fan Posted June 22 Report Share Posted June 22 I don't have a problem with the SFA deciding to do this, but only on the basis that they'll go back through every Celtic press conference, pre and post match interviews, general interviews, tweets and website stories or match reports. Otherwise it's just another pathetic show of crawling and saying to Celtic "like us, like us please." I'll even start them off, Callum McGregor on Trusty's red card against Hibs: "To send him off for that, we may as well all go up the road and stop playing football if that's going to be a red card every single week." Is the tweet by Watt any worse than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 9 hours ago, A Well Fan said: I don't have a problem with the SFA deciding to do this, but only on the basis that they'll go back through every Celtic press conference, pre and post match interviews, general interviews, tweets and website stories or match reports. Otherwise it's just another pathetic show of crawling and saying to Celtic "like us, like us please." I'll even start them off, Callum McGregor on Trusty's red card against Hibs: "To send him off for that, we may as well all go up the road and stop playing football if that's going to be a red card every single week." Is the tweet by Watt any worse than that? That's an excellent example but the SFA censuring The Untouchable McGregor? It's never going to happen, which is the problem in a nutshell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinkydink Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 One for the Society to find its voice on I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted June 23 Report Share Posted June 23 13 hours ago, Happy Dosser said: Unfortunately, the clubs seem feeble and self-serving generally and reluctant to combine to stand up for themselves, so any reform is unlikely to happen and the Scottish game will descend in to further farce and loss of credibilty in the "authorities". Therein lies the problem the other 10 Premiership clubs only look to their own self interests and are not going to rock the boat to address the issues. The premiership has the 11-1 voting criteria required before any changes can be made, which effectively means the ugly sisters can determine what happens and what does not to suit themselves. All of the other 30 clubs outwith the premiership dont really care what goes on as they dont have to use VAR, never play the uglies, never have to deal with the stadium damage etc, so they dont get involved Until the premiership clubs, mainstream media, Scottish Government, police Scotland etc start calling out these issues, nothing will ever change. The SFA / SPFL blazers will continue as the cozy wee self interested clique it is, travelling the world on their expense accounts desperately trying to get their big teams to like them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parko66 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Motherwell star Elliot Watt given huge BAN as SFA punish Fir Park club over Celtic penalty controversy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, parko66 said: Motherwell star Elliot Watt given huge BAN as SFA punish Fir Park club over Celtic penalty controversy Its a wild ban, actually outrageous if you think about, luckily he will probably be serving it as someone elses player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: Its a wild ban, actually outrageous if you think about, luckily he will probably be serving it as someone elses player Its a feckin embarassment for Scottish football, it would never happen with any of the ugly sisters players, the SFA are a disgrace, but the other clubs wont care so nothing will change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: Its a wild ban, actually outrageous if you think about, luckily he will probably be serving it as someone elses player He will be but that’s not the point here. The bigger picture is that Scottish football is run for the benefit of Celtic and Celtic alone and anyone who speaks up about it will be censored. Its absolutely scandalous the hold that club have over everyone in the game up here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, parko66 said: Motherwell star Elliot Watt given huge BAN as SFA punish Fir Park club over Celtic penalty controversy Utterly ridiculous. Presumably we'll now see almost every club, player and manager punished for what they say and do after matches. Unless, of course, they happen to be at Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Regardless of whether Watt leaves or not we as a club should be appealing this or at least stating an intention to appeal it. While Watt is still our player we should be standing up for him otherwise it will keep happening with other players or employees who speak out and upset the apple cart around Celtic and the way they’ve got everyone dancing to their tune. Start by citing that the then Celtic manager got a lesser ban for comments about the same official in March 2024 and that that ban was subsequently reduced on appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Utter disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 39 minutes ago Report Share Posted 39 minutes ago 45 minutes ago, MJC said: He will be but that’s not the point here. The bigger picture is that Scottish football is run for the benefit of Celtic and Celtic alone and anyone who speaks up about it will be censored. Almost right, except it's run for the benefit of the Old Firm, not just Celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 26 minutes ago Report Share Posted 26 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, weeyin said: Almost right, except it's run for the benefit of the Old Firm, not just Celtic. Nope. That outlook is part of the problem and part of the reason why Celtic get everything their own way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted 19 minutes ago Report Share Posted 19 minutes ago Absolutely shocking Watt was just saying what everybody else was thinking , and still is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 17 minutes ago Report Share Posted 17 minutes ago 49 minutes ago, MJC said: Regardless of whether Watt leaves or not we as a club should be appealing this or at least stating an intention to appeal it. While Watt is still our player we should be standing up for him otherwise it will keep happening with other players or employees who speak out and upset the apple cart around Celtic and the way they’ve got everyone dancing to their tune. Start by citing that the then Celtic manager got a lesser ban for comments about the same official in March 2024 and that that ban was subsequently reduced on appeal. A spirited defence of your big club as usual, but both of them are two cheeks of the same arse, ie equally culpable of everything that is wrong with scottish football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 4 minutes ago Report Share Posted 4 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Spiderpig said: A spirited defence of your big club as usual, but both of them are two cheeks of the same arse, ie equally culpable of everything that is wrong with scottish football. Another load of word salad and tired old patter from you as usual, but I prefer to actually look at things as they are. Rangers clearly have more clout than we do and indeed every other club outwith Celtic, but they are not on the same level as Celtic in terms of control, manipulation and running the game through bullying tactics. Certainly not today, in 2026. Derek McInnes has also been citied for comments he made about the very same incident that Elliot Watt has been “put in line” for speaking about. He made those comments on the night of the game whilst still the Hearts manager. I believe his hearing is next week. Now, if what you and the above poster are saying is true then the authorities will surely go easier on him now that he is Rangers manager? Yeah? So, if McInnes gets a touchline ban of anything similar or more than what Watt has been banned for then that would very much fly in the face of the idea that “both of them are equally culpable” and such like? I will watch with interest on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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