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SC Freiburg v Motherwell 27/08


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When it was 11 v 11 in both games, there really wasn’t too much in it !! Ok Freiburg had some real class in their side but We certainly held our own.

i think we did show our naivety against an experienced European team though but I’m in no means criticising. The 2 sending offs were poor and both players involved will learn from it.

when our walking wounded get back fit and if we can add another quality player to the side, I really think we could have another great season. 

 

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2 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Have a day off ffs, Im glad the team dont take that " we know our level" attitude, our level is whatever we want it to be, play to win every game we take part in and see where we end up.

We wont win them all but with the right attitude we can be the best we can be.

This has probably been our best ever Euro adventure, 4 great results in Q2 and Q3 and eliminated by a far better team who struggled to break us down until we went down to 10 men in both games.

So why not try some positivity for a change instead of your usual negative doom and gloom trolling shite, you might actually enjoy it

Oh, dear God,  yes! It's the same "great wee team" attitude he deplores in Tam Cowan's haverings  until it doesn't support his narrative. 

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2 hours ago, MJC said:

I thought I was being quite positive about our efforts. 
 

I acknowledged that we were beaten by a far superior side and that it was good for the club that we reached this stage. I also mentioned that I was pleased for the travelling support that they got something to cheer about with the goal to make it 1-1.

Europe is not our level. It just isn’t. But the domestic game and competitions are because we stand a(n albeit outside) chance of actually going all the way and winning the entire thing. 
 

For that reason I would much rather we focused our attentions on domestic fixtures like the League cup than some ‘glamour’ Euro tie that we have no chance of winning.

Tell that to Cape Vedre. Scotland were an embarrassment in the USA, Cape Verde said fuck it, we're here, have a go.

Such defeatist pish.

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I think the League Cup / Euro argument is flawed. 

AJ had to make a call on how to manage his squad, clearly the club decided that the best approach was to give Europe a real shot. 

League form was solid and on the back of a monumental effort in the home HJK game we then have the Stenny game, for me there is a number of factors in that game. 

Squad size at the time due to injuries.

The artificial pitch meaning the worry about injuries.

The upcoming Frieburg game.

For me he thought the players he played would do a job and unfortunately it never happened. That’s football sometimes.

But I do think it was the right decision to rotate the team, also you have to look at it from the players perspective, they would 100% want to be fit for that Frieburg game, it’s probably the biggest two games of their careers.

Also Europe is not something to dismiss, I am convinced with a better draw we would have got through and then it’s a whole new level for the club. The big money is in Europe and the ability to grow as a club is much higher in Europe than in the league cup. 

The job the manager and team has done this season is first class considering it’s a new spine of a team and the injury crisis we have had. Fair play to AJ, I can’t remember a more memorable start to a season ever.

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For me the arguments not flawed on Europe / cup 

 

if we beat stenhousemuir ( which we should regardless ) it’s a great start to the season…..but we didn’t 

 

hibs great result….

 

Falkirk never seen as I was away but they were terrible against st Mirren….

 

faroes & Finnish mobs great days but for me we should win them

 

& put up a great effort against a team that’s levels above 

 

season will come down to whether we can get a couple in attacking wise for me that can contribute, don’t buy into the injury crisis ( we’ve got injuries but very few are 1st 11 ) & we’re certainly not Cape Verde 😂

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54 minutes ago, Prestwickwell said:

For me the arguments not flawed on Europe / cup 

 

if we beat stenhousemuir ( which we should regardless ) it’s a great start to the season…..but we didn’t 

 

hibs great result….

 

Falkirk never seen as I was away but they were terrible against st Mirren….

 

faroes & Finnish mobs great days but for me we should win them

 

& put up a great effort against a team that’s levels above 

 

season will come down to whether we can get a couple in attacking wise for me that can contribute, don’t buy into the injury crisis ( we’ve got injuries but very few are 1st 11 ) & we’re certainly not Cape Verde 😂

Not sure what to make of us so far this season. We've had a spate of injuries; a few players departing and arriving; a hectic schedule; new manager and played against 3 sides we wouldn't normally meet. You could say we were expected to beat HB; HFK Helsinki were about on a par; and Freiburg were several levels above.  Its very hard to gauge those performances in domestic terms. Potentially we have a very strong squad, with some decent signings on paper (with quality we couldn't afford previously), but how will they match up domestically. We did well at Easter Road, struggled against Falkirk again, and flopped against Stenhousemuir. 

Early doors we have had a mixed record in scoring; mixed in conceding; there are questionmarks over our physicality (rivals have some pretty big units in their squads too) and defending set pieces; and been somewhat naive (domestic rivals will be every bit as cute and streetwise as Freiburg). Ball retention has been poorer than last term. A few comings and goings too over the next week or two. 

So, all in all a lot of unknowns so far and we won't get a clear picture of where we're at for another 5 weeks or so until these factors settle down.  This has easily been the strangest and most complicated start to a season that I can remember. Interesting times ahead! 

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