grizzlyg Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: What I don't understand is why they would do this when the HJK fines were made public just days before. I'm assuming that these people can read. Simple answer is they don't care about the consequences for the club. I am just so fed up with it i have even lost the enthusiasm to tell jokes..........every cloud 🤪🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxteth O'Grady Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, johnstone said: I think the HJK incident was a bit unfortunate, people can lose it when a goal goes in, it wasn’t like they deliberately broke the advertising board. I wasn't far from the guys who invaded the pitch in Helsinki, and as soon as the penalty was awarded they were all getting ready to run onto the park if it went in. It wasn't as if it was spontaneous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago I mean the pictures I have seen it wouldnt be that hard to identify them however the club refuse to take a hard line with them for some reason. Either do something about it or just fritter away money time and time. They released a statement and it didn't work so sadly its iron fist time and grow a set of balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago The club can and should take action to identify those responsible for causing the problems at FP. However it’s much more difficult to do this for away games. The only way to do this would be for the club to handle the ticket sales for all away games and record details of everyone who buys a ticket. On the down side this would create an extra admin burden on the club and it would need the cooperation of the away club not to sell tickets outwith this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Im not in favour of a blanket ban on any group of supporters. No one fan should suffer because of the action of others. However, that works 2 ways. We cant be far off from UEFA starting to intervene with our ticket allocations for away European nights. That would be galling for most. As soon as I saw the flares last night, my heart sank as the club will be forced to act in a way that can only harm the current feelgood factor within the club. Time for those responsible to take some responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago At the Helsinki game at FP , I was close to block e( the area not the fans) although there were probably some block e ( fans , not the area) in there. Anyway there was a guy there with the megaphone thing and he spent the game facing away from pitch...my point is not everyone is that interested in the game , its the vibe/ atmosphere/ chance to be a star I doubt he is bothered by an appeal from club, maybe some of his posse could put pressure on him? It's all well and good but when it crosses into costing us money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Great Balls of Shire said: At the Helsinki game at FP , I was close to block e( the area not the fans) although there were probably some block e ( fans , not the area) in there. Anyway there was a guy there with the megaphone thing and he spent the game facing away from pitch...my point is not everyone is that interested in the game , its the vibe/ atmosphere/ chance to be a star I doubt he is bothered by an appeal from club, maybe some of his posse could put pressure on him? It's all well and good but when it crosses into costing us money. And they are probably pi*sing themselves at us old squares getting annoyed at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago They can whistle the next time the buckets/emails come out for their next self indulgent TIFO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, bobbybingo said: Bit harsh. Could we no just drop Maswanhise for a game or two? Touche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: At the Helsinki game at FP , I was close to block e( the area not the fans) although there were probably some block e ( fans , not the area) in there. Anyway there was a guy there with the megaphone thing and he spent the game facing away from pitch...my point is not everyone is that interested in the game , its the vibe/ atmosphere/ chance to be a star I doubt he is bothered by an appeal from club, maybe some of his posse could put pressure on him? It's all well and good but when it crosses into costing us money. Didn't realise Sol was back at the club 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago I think it's pretty simple. If you are costing the club more money in fines than you bring in individually then the club has every right to jettison you. The club (and every Scottish club since it's far from a Motherwell specific issue) needs to clamp down on fan behaviour now. For a start any fan that goes on to the pitch should be insta-banned. Today's SFA announcement on Rangers and Celtic is a step in the right direction. Fans on the pitch. Stadium closure. Flares, stadium closure. The softly, softly approach just hasn't worked. It's well known in general society that 50% of all crime is committed by 10% of all criminals. Likewise all these supporter related problems are being committed by a very small number of people. If you nip this problem in the bud it'll soon be gone. You don't deal with it you simply embolden the small minority that are already creating issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Didn't realise Sol was back at the club 🤣🤣 A ha, took me a minute lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago My final point on this as I am just sickened by it, the flare display was final straw and proves they don't care about the club. Folk must know who let the flares off. Certainly wouldn't expect them to grass them in but maybe just say to them.....stay away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: A ha, took me a minute lol My mates ears will be burning as I always went on about him and his megaphone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Like most I was hacked off when the guys with the flares appeared and at that point I thought they weren’t involved with the block e guys as the guys with the speakers got out the way as if saying we’ve nothing to do with this but when the second solo flare was used after it burnt out the guy dived under the cover of their flag and they assisted the guy to change without being identified so there was some cross over between them and as such any retribution handed out by the club is their own fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 19 hours ago, wellfan said: Anyone who chooses to obscure their face with a balaclava or similar at a football match, or anywhere else, has something to hide. Its a societal problem in the UK as we saw yesterday in a few totally unrelated incidents. The UK and Scottish Governments need to get together for once and ban all face coverings. End of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Its a societal problem in the UK as we saw yesterday in a few totally unrelated incidents. The UK and Scottish Governments need to get together for once and ban all face coverings. Its actually embarssing this face coverings culture more so a government that just doesnt want help police.Heads must be firmly in the sand if they dont see it as a problem. Reason why crime has went through the roof inside football and outside football this hide ma face culture is a big part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 43 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Its a societal problem in the UK as we saw yesterday in a few totally unrelated incidents. The UK and Scottish Governments need to get together for once and ban all face coverings. End of. It's one thing to say this on a forum or conversation, most people would agree with you, but in actual reality It's an absolute nightmare to legislate - which is why it's probably not going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 55 minutes ago Report Share Posted 55 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said: It's one thing to say this on a forum or conversation, most people would agree with you, but in actual reality It's an absolute nightmare to legislate - which is why it's probably not going to happen. Well, if they can do so in other European countries like France, Belgium, Austria and Denmark our governments should be able to do so here. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 32 minutes ago Report Share Posted 32 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Stuwell2 said: Like most I was hacked off when the guys with the flares appeared and at that point I thought they weren’t involved with the block e guys as the guys with the speakers got out the way as if saying we’ve nothing to do with this but when the second solo flare was used after it burnt out the guy dived under the cover of their flag and they assisted the guy to change without being identified so there was some cross over between them and as such any retribution handed out by the club is their own fault. Sounds like they want to be involved in special manoeuvres , fitba seems a bit tame. Im not in charge but as soon as flares went off, I would turn water cannons on, 30 secs warning and if you're still in the way...splash. Possibly why im not in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted 31 minutes ago Report Share Posted 31 minutes ago https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19MTqqxMEV/ Wait till we get the bill in for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 25 minutes ago Report Share Posted 25 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Well, if they can do so in other European countries like France, Belgium, Austria and Denmark our governments should be able to do so here. We don't need to reinvent the wheel. France has banned the burqua , under the premise , its a security risk. We should be able to stop football fans wearing face coverings Hopefully some of these young dudes dads are well fans and advise em how much its costing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted 24 minutes ago Report Share Posted 24 minutes ago The club will not get fined for graffiti on a train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firparkfred Posted 17 minutes ago Report Share Posted 17 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Sounds like they want to be involved in special manoeuvres , fitba seems a bit tame. Im not in charge but as soon as flares went off, I would turn water cannons on, 30 secs warning and if you're still in the way...splash. Possibly why im not in charge. Couldn't agree more. Definitely a fire risk so would be justified on health and safety grounds. If they are warned about it in advance, probably on social media, then they can have no complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted 11 minutes ago Report Share Posted 11 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: The club will not get fined for graffiti on a train No but we'll probably get a bill for it I would imagine which we can obviously refuse to pay as there's no proof who done it unless it was captured on CCTV even then the club can't be held responsible Point is it doesn't do our reputation any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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