dossertillidie Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 mcghee was definetly building for the future! his own!, slane to celtic, quinn to celtic, there were a couple of players influenced to consider the tic as a future club. i know this for sure. looking after himself when he made the move across there as manager. oh thats right mowbray got the job! what a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Im not saying the deal wasn't done. Im saying, paul had NOTHING to do with it. IF it was done, it was motherwell who done it. As I understand it, verbal agreement between Mr McGhee and Chris McCart and a sum of circa £40,000 prior to the move north. Chris McCart enquired as to the progress and was advised otherwise as the verbal agreement had more holes than swiss cheese. He's since been heard to agree with members of staff within the club that he couldn't purchase him for ten times that value now. Not trying to be smart assed, info likely to be questioned. Source? Two of the clubs sponsors with a bigger than average input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 In 4 months, Klimpl falls from fans' favourite to shite player. Having said that, there's no way he would make the team now. Where is he now I wonder? I never liked Klimpl. He was a total bomscare, had a terrible touch, rash in the challenge and his passing was awful. He was never a favourite of mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 McGhee really was/is an utter scumbag. What a thoroughly reprehensible piece of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 if the choice was between klimpl or reynolds to start in the holding role on saturday klimpl would win hands down. if everybody (except faddy) becomes shite when they leave motherwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 if the choice was between klimpl or reynolds to start in the holding role on saturday klimpl would win hands down. if everybody (except faddy) becomes shite when they leave motherwell. I think they're disliked rather than become shite. Disliked more if they move to one of the old firm. i don't think Walker, O'Donnell, McDonald, Pearson, Lambert, Boyd, McCulloch were shite - they just got pelters for ending up at the OF. I'll back johnstone up here - to be fair he never really liked Klimpl - I saw something in him and it was horses for courses for where we were last season and I wanted him to sign on permanently even though he faded in the last few games. Looking back I think we're now in a better place as a club and don't need him. I'd have Mark Reynolds over Klimpl any day of the week now. if Reynolds is given an extended run ther I think he might develop into a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well73 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Reynolds to play football good football. Klimpl to take a hit out on anybody and win every 50/50 ball he went for. The Gannon way wouldn't suit a Klimpl type player. In JG we trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I think they're disliked rather than become shite. Disliked more if they move to one of the old firm. i don't think Walker, O'Donnell, McDonald, Pearson, Lambert, Boyd, McCulloch were shite - they just got pelters for ending up at the OF.Aye Lambert won the Champions League and Gary Mac won an EPL league title and a European trophy (to name a few). Not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 To be fair to McGhee, maybe he didn't think the boys were ready to play for the first team yet. They were a year younger, and at that age a year is a long time. In the push for top six he obviously thought experience was our best bet, rather than pushing the youngsters in too early. Obviously, the subsequent banter regarding these Slane / McCart dealings if true render him an absolute fucking scumbag c**t of the highest order, but these boys maybe needed the extra year and someone with a bit more faith in youth to perform to the levels they seem to be capable of at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishyWell Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 someone with a bit more faith in youth I was told by a shareholder recently that McGhee was asked why none of the young players was given a chance in the 'bottom six' games, and he said that no one in the under-19s was good enough. Apparently he took little, or no, interest in the youths and so had no idea. Or maybe over the extremely short close season there was a stellar increase in ability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 ...Or maybe he knew he was leaving and would rather play guys who he knew were going down south, rather than give our U19s some invaluable experience to stand them in good stead for this season, where they're competing against his team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Or maybe he genuinely thought that the youngsters weren't good enough to play in the first team. Remember, Gannon has a system that is based around the abilities of the players he has. McGhee had different options and a different system. If Clarkson, Porter, Quinn, McLean, McCormack, Klimpl etc. were available to Gannon, there might be one or two youngsters not getting their chance yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellTiliDie Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Or maybe he genuinely thought that the youngsters weren't good enough to play in the first team. Remember, Gannon has a system that is based around the abilities of the players he has. McGhee had different options and a different system. If Clarkson, Porter, Quinn, McLean, McCormack, Klimpl etc. were available to Gannon, there might be one or two youngsters not getting their chance yet either. If McGhee was still here Fitzpatrick, McGarry and Darren Smith would probably be in ahead of the youngsters that are finally getting their chance the now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottW1886 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I was told by a shareholder recently that McGhee was asked why none of the young players was given a chance in the 'bottom six' games, and he said that no one in the under-19s was good enough. Apparently he took little, or no, interest in the youths and so had no idea. Or maybe over the extremely short close season there was a stellar increase in ability... What he said at tha AGM was that he didn't think they were ready to come in and play every week and get third place last season, but that they would be good players in a couple of seasons. He spoke highly of Hutchinson and Saunders in particular. McGhee was aiming for Europe immediately, while Gannon is aiming for Europe once these guys mature - big difference in aims there, and I don't have an issue with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Aye Lambert won the Champions League and Gary Mac won an EPL league title and a European trophy (to name a few). Not too shabby. And most of us would have cheered them onto that no question. Lambert wasted it signing for the Rattlers but hey ho. Wisnae shite though so aye agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Thing is their were occasions when we looked relegation fodder and were struggling with injuries etc. McGhee put out a team with 9 centre halfs at Fir park one day remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfinz Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 McGhee put out a team with 9 centre halfs at Fir park one day remember. 9 centre halfs! I dont even think we've had 9 centre halfs on the books at one time, never mind on the field together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 9 centre halfs! I dont even think we've had 9 centre halfs on the books at one time, never mind on the field together! Sharp again finzster. I was tongue-in-cheekedly referring to the St Mirren game that we lost (I think) - when we had a centre back at right back, two centre backs in central defence and two centre backs in midfield. But you knew that right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeboy Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'll believe the team he is referring to:- Smith McLean Craigan Reynolds Quinn O'Brien Hughes Klimpl Hammell Sutton Clarkson In a must win game? Fuck right off, McGhee. And good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I'd have Mark Reynolds over Klimpl any day of the week now. if Reynolds is given an extended run ther I think he might develop into a great player. it was it was a straight either or i'd have reynolds as well but if you'd have given me the choice at 20 past 3 on saturday to switch him with klimpl i'd have had maros on in a second. we've got a serious problem in midfield. gannon obviously thought reynolds might solve it for us but he showed on saturday he can't. coke and forbes both look good but if the two of them play in a two in the centre and we play any combination of slane, o'brien or humphrey on the wings we'll be leaving ourselves far too open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Irish Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 ...Or maybe he knew he was leaving and would rather play guys who he knew were going down south, rather than give our U19s some invaluable experience to stand them in good stead for this season, where they're competing against his team. Throw in Roswell and the Grassy Knoll and I think you'd hit perfection there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Diggle Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Good start for Buzz at Brighton - he must have been keen to impress after getting the call to arms after Kuipers got sent off just prior to HT when it was 2-1 to 'udders feeled. He managed to keep it down to 7-1. Blinder! I can't confirm whether Burley was in the crowd or not. Go Buzz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I still can't get my head round that transfer. I know its all for the money, but fuck sake! Brighton' At least at Motherwell he was in the shop window and was getting noticed. Now watch him vanish into lower league obscurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 I have to admit that I laughed when I seen the highlights this morning. Some of the goals there was nothing he could do about but I don't think that'll help his chances of being first choice keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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