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And that would leave us still above Rangers on GD.

I agree. Its very very difficult to play against a team who are set up to keep 10 men behind the ball and be so negative. They were literally time wasting (i believe one of the players got booked for it) the entire 2nd half Just horrid to watch

Not sure how I want their game today to end up. Maybe a draw ao both drop two points?

Poor is a bit harsh, we didnt play as well as we can but still dominated the game.

As much as I detest Ross, his political views, his party and his weird hatred of seagulls. He’s actually not a bad linesman

Thought it was interesting thst Douglas Ross was running the line on the main stand side as I'm sure he's been on the other side anytime I've seen him. Maybe shielding him from the baying mob in the East stand. He did have a bit of banter with the guys in the wheelchair shelter though and a shake of his head when the Dundee guy (17?) literally threw himself against Koutroumbis and got the foul.

Neither are they.

We really shouldn’t have any fear going there, we are a better footballing side than them and they are very iffy in a lot of areas. They’ve been stumbling through games but getting wins which is a little worrying but we should be going in there thinking will get something. personally I’d be overjoyed with a draw against both of them and a win v st mirren. I’d rip your arm off for that right now.

1-0 home win. We’re not clinical or aggressive enough to win this.

2-2

I would just love it if we won there 3 seasons in a row A draw here certainly would be a positive

Its a fair point. Our pitch yesterday looked bumpy for the first time this season. Not really surprising given how much rain there has been and the lack of daylight/warmth at this time if year. Still light years ahead of where it used to be at this time of year right enough. Obviously we dont have St Johnstones to worry about this season and looking at the fixtures we have a lot of home games coming up. Most pitches have improved, but still something we need to be aware of.

Just on the misplaced passes yesterday. It'll be interesting to see how we deal with winter pitches with this style of football. Its inevitable passes are going to go astray. I mean Fir Park has a great surface but winter means it will inevitably degrade even if it's not that obvious to the eye.

JBA will have us going there with no fear. Be interesting as Rangers won't be sitting back like Dundee did so will make game more open. I just fear about our forward line as they can't hit a barn door at the moment. COYW

OK, everyone knows we are 6 clean sheets in a row. But I was looking at our home record and we've only conceded against Falkirk in the last seven home matches going back all the way to September. Aberdeen 2-0 Falkirk 1-2 Dundee United 2-0 Hibernian 2-0 Hearts 0-0 Livingston 3-0 Dundee 1-0.

The referees are fucking horrific. They literally can't even walk or run about properly. I've never seen referees get in the way, block off passes, bump into players, get hit with the ball and all that sort of stuff more than this season. Never mind making decisions. There was one game earlier in the season when the absolute dumpling in the middle got hit with the ball about 5 times and had to restart the game every time. I don't know what sort of training they do on positioning, by the looks of it none. It's like the first thing on the application form you need to tick is 'Are you a bumbling lummox.' They used to say Gerald Ford couldn't chew gum and walk at the same time, our refs are right up there. And then every week there are absolutely abysmal VAR decisions. I mean look at St Mirren's disallowed goal yesterday or the Ranger hand ball incidents. Who looks at those on a video loop and makes those decisions?

Haven’t lost at Ibrox since September 2023

We'll need to defend set pieces. That's a big part of their game right now.

Really looking forward to this as it will be another stern test of where we are at as a team. This Rangers team arent great, but Rohl has steadied the ship and has them as a far more effective unit than Martin did. If we can go there and get a positive result it will be another big statement in an already outstanding season. Looking forward to seeing how our midfield and attack fare against a side that doesnt sit in to frustrate. Have the feeling it could be a Tynecastlesque game!

Matthew McDermid annoys me more than pretty much any other referee in Scotland and thats quite a feat! I always groan when I see his name against ours. Is he the new Willie Collum?

It was definitely between him and Welsh first half. Really like what he does. Even second half when they brought Priestman on and pushed him forward into Slatterys position, he was really effective. Thought Just's second half performance just edged it, but aye Fadinger is never less than a 7/10 and most weeks he is better than that. Thank you Mr Wimmer!

Thats a fair summary. The game turned out pretty much how I expected. Had it finished 0-0, it wouldn't have surprised me. Dundee learnt a lot from Falkirk and Dundee United and were prepared to change their normal game to nullify us. In the process they sterilised themselves. Unfortunately for them, and fortunately for us, they had no control over the ballboys or groundsmen. We were always going to struggle against a team sitting in and without TJ's spark it was no surprise that we were toothless. Good leading up play but final passes going astray and a defence benefitting from good luck - far from a perfect combination. The story of our season so far. That said, we did win and deservedly so. It could easily have been 3 or 4 zero. Patience won the day though and Slatts notched the vital winner. Individually, I thought that McGinn, Welsh Fadinger and Just caught the eye. RCC just didn't cut it and perhaps Said could have been introduced earlier. A bit concerning that Gordon was nowhere to be seen - hopfully just rotation. No Balmer either. What does impress me about JBA's reign is his ability to rotate the squad wthout disrupting our gameplan. Thats quite something. We desperately need a more lethal finisher and I'm sure that'll be in JBA's shopping list in the January sales. A final word on yesterday's referee. Not a dirty game. No major errors or VAR interventions fortunately but a string of overly fussy decisions and a bit easily conned by the likes of Yogane. He didn't like his linesmen telling him what to do either - a shame really because on 3 occasions they were right and he was wrong.

I thought part of Dundee's approach was a bit strange. They lined up three across the edge of our 18 yard box (well, two with one inside) every goal kick we took but they just stayed there without doing any press. It was as if they had been told them where to stand but not told what to do next.

Like you say its about expectations. Only the first 20 minutes were poor, with too many misplaced passes or bad touches. After that we were generally fine. Big chances from Hendry (x3) and Fadinger could have had the game dead and buried much earlier. Its a bit of a compliment that teams are setting up to try and stop us play rather than have a go at us. However, some of the interplay in tight areas to try and unlock the low block was a delight to watch, second half in particular. Be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 games with teams whose fans will demand they come out and play against us.

Correct, I'm surprised to hear some Motherwell fans saying we were poor yesterday. I think it's just our expectations have risen so much. We played well today but Dundee set out to frustrate, not to match us and yeah the final ball was poor at times however had we played like that last season we'd all be saying how good we were.