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Dropped for a guy who’s scored 1 goal in 23 games in League 2. Be careful what you wish for?

Counterpoint. The charity strip is horrendous. Fantastic cause, and delighted it has sold well, but 1980s retro fluoresence at it's worst.

Thought it was just me. In my darker moments I've rationalised that If we go down, at least we weren't playing in a proper Motherwell jersey and it's all been a bad dream. We have an unique, classical strip yet we keep buggering it about. We should take a tip from clubs with a strong identity (like Newcastle Utd.) and do very little to mess it about.

It was exactly the type of signing many were asking for, a young, pretty highly rated player from the championship. Sadly it’s just not quite worked out, not that he’s a hopeless player, he’s not, it’s just you need something else apart from just workrate.

Christ we've just won our first game in months, progressed in the Scottish and we're moaning about a strip. SO at its very best.

Our home strip is absolutely rotten. We should be wearing this top or the white one for the rest of the season.

well hez now 1 in three quarters for us

Einstein once said that the definition of madness was doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Well Stevie Hammell fits that definition because he has yet again named a midfield 3 of Goss, Slattery & Spittal!

Exactly. What I was commenting on was the notion that signing those players on those contracts was "Alexander's arrogant fantasy." It wasn't. Alexander certainly was at fault for many things, but he most likely was working within a transfer policy and strategy determined by the higher ups at the club. And it was a policy the vast majority of us saw as sensible.

In this instance then, I'm probably one of the "negative" posters. I guess then everyone looks for something different from this place. Personally, I look for a range of different opinions to allow me to gauge the mood of the support, as a whole. How likely that is in an internet forum, I don't know. If there are negative, or indeed positive, elements within our support, I want to know about them. A degree of negativity within any group is natural and shouldn't be ignored. Sometimes its justifed sometimes its not. Without listening we run the risk of forming a skewed or false view of matters.

McGinn, and he played pretty well.

Announced as 2,067 which is very impressive. I’m not keen on the fluorescent kit despite its good cause and I am usually a firm believer of always wearing our first kit unless there is an obvious colour clash, but I would make an exception for this seasons horrific home strip. Whoever signed off on that abomination should get their jotters. As well as not really being like the 1980s kit that it is supposedly a ‘throwback’ to it is just an awful kit to look at. Far too much claret and the trims and designs from the top and the shorts don’t in any way match or align. It’s just a shambles of a strip.

A win against a potentially tricky opponent so let's all enjoy our Saturday night. Mandron getting 2 goals gives us encouragement and also a wake up for KVV as he knows competition for his place but personally I would play pair of them. And clean sheet for Blaney in first game. Happy days

Goal machine

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2022/12/05/new-charity-third-kit-launched/

Poor Shields not on pitch and still getting pelters! Lol

It sounds like McKinstry put it on a plate for Mandron. He's stepped up a level in terms of end product since the WC break. If he can work on his crossing and composure around the box there is a very good player there for us.

Really happy to see some changes . Needed a shake up . feel a little for Cornelius - I’d have him ahead of the core 3 we stick with . we need to be solid at the back and win this one

It was

And then theres also the fact that the internet (and social media) doesnt really reflect reality no matter how much outrage can be generated by a relativley few people on scudbook and twatter

with a tag like grumpy you can't complain

The fact is that football transfers are always going to be a mixed bag. We only notice when other teams get it right, so we get a skewed perception of how successful we are/should be compared to others. The contract length is going to depend on the player. Some players will want a short contract because they feel like their current club is a stepping stone, others want long term security. Then you have the opposite from the clubs perspective, as they will want to keep good players tied up for as long as possible, but only offer short term contracts the the riskier players. You then have multiple clubs competing for a player, so they have to make concessions, by either offering more money or a more favourable term. That's a heavily simplified version of what goes on, as theres a million other factors such as location, agents, league position, playing style, what the facilities are like, etc. Signing shields, woolery, Kelly, Tierney, et all to 3 year deals was looked upon favourably by most at the time. A longer deal gives players time to settle, and protects the club in that it prevents other clubs from pinching our players immediately after a purple patch. You never know how it's going to turn out, but hope that more work out than don't.

Let's be feckin positive....COYW

Yep that sums it up, it's a bit like Morecambe and wise,. We are issuing the right long term contracts...but not necessarily to the right players