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Word salad. I was being descriptive on an observation. As for the Well Bois comment - on a Stewart Kettlewell discussion thread? An irrelevance much like yourself. I’ve defended them, not once have I said they never put a foot wrong. For the record, I’ll wager you know nothing of the Well Bois given the make up of those who frequent that area of the stadium. Plenty of your musings on what’s an emotive subject this week are exactly that - inane. An understanding of dressing room politics and doubling down as you refuse to believe is lacking sense or meaning. All in the schooling I suppose. At no point did I mention your opinion isn’t welcome. Playing victim card once again - no bother.

This was a very good interview . i like how he balanced the vast majority of our fans and great and accentuated the positives . Balanced the narrative well . also that the overall approach will be similar with some tweaks to players . also faced into the possession stat and was clear it’s not deliberate tactic . overall comes across as a very decent bloke who’s put in 100%

Supporters this week have been told this week that they're not allowed to vent their feelings at games...this fella has decided the next best option is to remove his funding.

Well after hearing it all and how we've been flung under the bus this week I have stopped my well society contribution and have let them know that I'm extremely disappointed with how the club have handled it in the media and the narrative that's been spun. If I'm a part of a group od big bad buggers to you then you won't wish to have my money that I work longer hours than SK ever did and for a lot less money. I've had 1 day off in the last 14 days and I work 10-14 hours a day so the financial outlay of going to football I expect to see a team fighting the bit out and trying to play some football. I've never personally abused anyone but the way fans have been painted this past week has been saddening and I'm so disappointed on our club right now

I guess we’ll be waiting a while to find out as the CEO seems to be in mourning instead of doing his job.

Don’t make ludicrous posts then, but I’ll take your own advice that you happily hand out on a regular basis and stick you on “ignore” . Night night

Been mulling the interview over for a wee while to give me time to clear my head. Mainly because I found myself with more questions than answers. And a few things that I struggled to make sense of. Firstly, for me, there is no doubt that Brian Caldwell was at a low ebb and was shocked by the whole turn of events. He clearly feels empathy for his employee and is supporting him as best he can. It was a difficult and disturbing watch. I also get his unease at how quickly folk were applying to fill Stuart Kettlewell's shoes. But I find it strange that given the close working relationship we are told the two had........meeting or talking nearly every day and almost certainly more so in January given our downturn in form, injury situation and the need for action in the transfer window.....that our CEO had no inkling whatsoever of the mental anguish Stuart Kettlewell and his family were going through. To a lesser extent that also applies to other Board Members. Also we are told that the abuse situation heightened during the home victory against Aberdeen. Initially I thought it must have been during the cup loss to St Johnstone. I sit directly behind the home dugout and have witnessed fans screaming at SK to sort things out. At the Aberdeen game and at others throughout this season and last. So it does happen but not to any greater a degree than Alexander, Hammell and others before them had to endure. Not excusing or justifying it but just trying to get things into perspective in my own head. Given that I and others were aware of it, I find hard to accept that those sitting in the Directors' Box a few rows behind me did not see or hear what was a fairly regular occurrence. Or did they see it and disregard it as something that happens at matches the length and breadth of the country? Either way it makes no sense. It also struck me that there appears to have been no serious attempt to persuade SK to hang on a bit longer. possibly following a Club Statement asking for calm and informing fans that such abuse would not be tolerated. If I was to take a cynical view I might think that Caldwell was in part relieved at Stuart's decision as it might have avoided him having to take action if the performance on the pitch continued to spiral downwards. I don't do Facebook or Twitter so apologies if more details of the abuse Kettlewell suffered was revealed on those platforms. But I have witnessed nothing first hand that merits the all out assault on what feels like ALL Motherwell fans by the media,. And which sadly seemed to be supported by the statements initially released by MFC and the Well Society. I am not in any way playing down the abuse that most definitely takes in football be it aimed at players, Managers, Officials or even fans. But this whole situation makes less and less sense to me the more I try to understand it. For me, there are far too many contradictions. Hopefully Stuart Kettlewell and his family are now in a much better place. Time for everybody to move on.

All the narrative from Stuart Kettlewell, Brian Caldwell and the media is that the Motherwell fans hounded the manager out with abuse directed at both him and his family. Caldwell further confirmed this when asked about why Kettlewell resigned. At least we, the fans know where we stand with the current regime running this club. They don't give a toss about the fans. It's nice to know how unimportant we are. I will show them how unimportant I am by not renewing my season ticket. The incompetent bunch running this club should have joined the manager and resigned. They have instigated a plan which is to bring in players from the depths of English football. Not once have they looked at the top 4 teams in the Scottish Championship. These are the teams battling for promotion and have better players than the garbage we have been signing. I will enjoy spending my season ticket money on something else.

Could you not just have said " an irrelevance " and missed the " much like yourself" bit out? 🤔 just a thought...

Obviously never been to a junior game when fans threaten to batter their own players for being shite or windscreens being put in on cars, however he's talking apples and oranges, players can expect to be criticized for mistakes, no one will let Stevie Woods forget Rangers, he's not going to change football culture overnight, Motherwell/any fans won't change their tune towards perceived mediocrity or pish tactics radically because SK resigned.

According to the BBC, he switched his formation around to counter Falkirk in this match. Audition passed.

I would suggest that if you (and others) do take the decision to not renew your season ticket, that you put the reason in writing to the Club and the Well Society. They need to see that their (in)actions that negatively affect the fans of a fan-owned club have real financial consequences.

I don’t think for a minute we will be seriously considering Billy Davies despite what the media says Can just imagine the reaction by some , a bit like when Mark McGhee came back

The last man we need at the helm is Billy Davies. He went full tinfoil hat in his last few jobs and has a track record of falling out with the board. And as per Wikipedia, it was even worse than I remember at the time:

Good. Not a terrible manager by any means, but have seen nothing to suggest he'd be an improvement.

Had Aberdeen had 11 men I would agree but they had 10 men for 45 mins and we never laid glove on them. Given our historical fuck ups against 10 men and our complete inability to keep possession for more than 2 minutes there was plenty to be exasperated about. Frankly I'll always reserve my right to be exasperated at any game and moan like fuck when we play absolute pish. Does that mean I abuse the manager of individual players ? no it doesn't.

I heard people complaining on here about that one , think that's where a reality check is required. Even with our strongest 11 , beating Aberdeen is a great result , we didn't have close to our strongest 11. I'm disappointed in the narrative since sk left but I can understand him being annoyed at mumping after that game The 2 st johnstone games, not so much.

Just watched the pre match media video with SOD. In a difficult session he came across very well and down to earth. Fieded some awkward questions well. A small positive this week.

Campbell confirmed for Utd. i hope he gets his career back on track as he deserves it, a hard working wee player. I’ve watched him quite a bit after he was binned from Luton [where he did well]and he screams of a player who has totally lost all confidence. Truth be told he was terrible at Millwall and Charlton. He looked like a junior player running about headless. Certainly not the confident Campbell who left us.

Kettlewell and Caldwell have shown us that the limited budget line is a bit of a red herring. We can’t be skint at the same time as being able to build a squad as big as it currently is. I’m certainly not suggesting we’re flush enough to afford Campbell, but we’d be a helluva lot closer to affording quality players if we didn’t pad out the squad with a quantity of injury prone guff and gambles.

The fact that some people can handle it should not diminish the fact that some people have had enough. I said it a few months ago. I was a few feet away from someone screaming at Spittal for taking a corner because he was moving to Hearts, Blair could hear him and then the fan wanted to fight other fans for being challenged and then someone else wanted to fight him. If people think we dont have a small minority of people who go too far - we absolutely do and in my view, it's not on Stuart - it's on them. You dont know what someone's last straw moment is - speaking from experience here. It could be nothing to some of us but you dont know what someone's tipping point is.

I can't believe how many people are falling for this " a good manager hounded out by foul mouthed fans" bullshit. SK walked because he was out of ideas, unable to determine his best 11 from what he had available, playing players out of position, non threatening sitting back and hoping something would happen tactics, strange random substitutions, alleged dressing room fallouts, and generally having no plan to turn our form round. So before being punted he walks bleating about alleged personal abuse etc the media take the bait and all of a sudden it's the fans fault and his reputation is clear, the club board and the WS then make it worse by effectively backing up his claims again blaming the fans. So all we've had for days is negative PR and how toxic our support is, not a word about the brutal football SK had us playing. I gave him the benefit of the doubt up to the cup defeat but then the shambles the next week convinced me he had lost the dressing room and was out of ideas. He's gone so we move on and hopefully get a manager in that sets us up to actually try to win games again, but given the PR disaster the board and the WS failed to avoid I hope they get their act together in choosing the right manager to take the club forward, time will tell.

I have heard this week a few of our fans being offended almost , and they expecting the club to offer some kind of apology Not me , anyone with any sense knows the majority of our fans are decent , but there are a few who would abuse any manager we have and want them out, not just the managers but players and if it is not in the stands then definetly social media . Just have to look at Facebook on a Saturday night and see it is almost the highlight of some people’s weekend , after a win as well . No this is not just at MFC , it happens everywhere

Pile of excrement

But if you drove by on a dat at 11 oclock n the flag was up the geme wiz oan 👍

Yes i can deffo confirm i seen a guy with a ferno n chips today 🤣🤣 anyway whits wee stuart mcCall doing now ? He could do a craig broon role

The whole thing has been a clusterfuck from the club. I worked in HR for years. The first thing you do is do an investigation before issue a sweeping statement putting suspicion on everyone. What should have happened is 1. SK should have advised BC when he first became aware of personal abuse. 2. BC should have told SK what support and mitigations would be put in place to ensure he stayed as manager if that is what he truly wanted. Those mitigations should have been a statement issued from the club along the lines "the club have been made aware of personal abuse being directed at SK from a small number of fans located in XXXXX. The club will not tolerate this. Stewards and Security have been alerted and going forward any supporters found to be carrying out such abuse will be ejected from the ground and temporary bans put in place. Repeat offenders will have lifetime bans imposed". but no they just issue a statement saying we have regrettably accepted SK resignation because of abuse from fans. A curse on all our supporters allowing a media feeding frenzy to develop. If the club did offer this solution to SK and he still wanted to resign they should have said so, along the lines of "the club have been made aware of personal abuse being directed at SK from a small number of fans located in XXXXX. The club will not tolerate this. The club offered to put mitigations in place to give SK assurances that this will not go on un-challeged. SK has refused such an offer an we have regrettably accepted his resignation".

“4k big bad well fans forced SK out with abuse papers all over it 50k bears “ up to there knees in feen#@n blood “ there will be nothing mentioned bout it just rotten scottish press

I am not at game on Sunday but after the horrible week so far I am going to put this appeal out. Can we give the team all our backing on Sunday? I have on numerous occasions said that booing our players or slating them when they make a mistake isn't going to help them. The 3 that seem to be main targets are SOD, Halliday and Davor. Yes all 3 haven't been great at times but they are wearing the well jersey and should be encouraged. A player will do a lot better if they are getting cheered rather than jeered. Those on this forum probably agree with me but as like all sides there are bams oot there and think they can shout what they want. COYW

I think that’s the nub of the matter - he’s a coach not a manager and there’s a huge difference. If he and his family have been experiencing personal abuse from our supporters then that is to be utterly condemned. I used to have a season ticket in the centre stand section above the dugouts and you wouldn’t believe some of the abuse that comes from there so if his family have attended games recently it’s quite likely they’ll have heard some of this. However I doubt very much that this would be sufficient to force him to resign. As some have posted it does appear to be the lot of being a football manager - look at the abuse the Spurs fans have been giving Postecoglu recently. In the past weeks as results weren’t in his favour he did show signs that he was feeling the pressure of the job - regularly arguing with match officials, getting yellow cards, a red card leading to a touchline ban and rumours of a bust-up with a senior player at half-time during the recent cup tie at Perth. For me I think perhaps deep down he sensed that his direction of travel with the club wasn’t going the way he would’ve liked and that maybe he wasn’t able to get the players up and onside with him anymore. I wish him all the very best for the future but if he’s being honest with himself then perhaps he’d be better suited to a coaching position or assistant manager.

To a degree , he might also be pointing at the easiest target other than himself. I cant comment on the personal abuse as I never witnessed it but it shouldn't happen. There is also the possibility he had lost the dressing room and could see the writing on the wall , so chuck it with a record on paper that stands up and blame everyone else and his future employment is safeguarded. We will never know the truth.

Ok, here goes. As far as who we've signed, that's up for debate as to who is good and who isn't. As far as filling areas of need, it has been pretty organized and methodical, outside of signing Vale and Tavares when we needed 2 midfielders. All rough working based on the website, but coming into this season we had: GK - Ox (re-signed), Connelly WB - Wilson (kind of), SoD CB - Blaney, McGinn, Casey Mid - Slattery (re-signed, injured), Miller, Nicholson (re-signed), Davor, Halliday, Paton FW - Moses, Bair Youth (that looked like they might get games at the time)- Ferrie, Ross, Wells. None look to be worth worrying about, which is a shame, I'd prefer to have 3 of our own youth products on the bench. So we needed: - a goalie, - 2 WBs, - at least one CB. - at least one midfielder - at least 2 forwards I might be off in the order here, but pre season we signed GK - Hegyi WB - Seddon, Johnny K CB - Balmer, gordon Mid - Callachan, Sparrow FW - Stuparevic, Robinson At the time, we thought maybe one defender too many, but that balmer and Gordon were good gers, then..... Mcginn injured pre-season So logically, as expected. We filled holes in the required positions, and left with a squad of 23 outside of the younger players, so room to add 1 or 2, with bair expected to go, and mcginn injured. Consensus at the time was that callachan was a bad signing, Sparrow was bench fodder, and Robinson was a good call. July 11th - koutroumbis out for months - Down a RWB July 15th - Kaleta joins - Back even on RWB July 16th - Theo Bair sold for actual money - Down a striker July 26th - Harry paton injury (and should have been a pen) - Down a midfielder July 30th - AP signed - back even on strikers Nicholson injury mentioned on August 5th - Down 2 midfielders Callachan injury (big fucking surprise) reported on August 8th - Down 3 midfielders Blaney out 6 weeks on August 8th - Down 2 defenders, but we signed two, so covered. August 13th - Watt came in - ok 5 strikers, maybe that's enough Aug 14th - AP injured for 6 weeks - Down to 4 strikers, uh oh Aug 19th - Maswanhise joined - back to 5 forwards, yay August 29th ish - Tavares and vale joined at the end of the summer window - 7 forwards now, wtf? Aug 20th - Stuparevic sent out on loan - Just the 6 forwards now - still down 3 midfielders 3rd Dec - Robinson out for season - only 5 strikers left 20th Dec-ish - Nicholson back - Down 2 midfielders 30th Dec - mcginn back, yay 31st Dec - Miller injured for months, well baws. - Down 3 midfielders 1st Jan ish - AP out for some time, double baws. - 4 forwards, bare bones 1st Jan ish - where's Jair? - 3 forwards 6th Jan - Slattery back, wooo. - Down 2 midfielders 7th Jan - Kai andrews signed - Down 1 midfielder 11th Jan - Ox injured -Down one keeper 11th Jan - Hegyi recalled by west ham - Down 2 keepers, oh no 11th Jan - Mair signs, Connelly recalled - back to two keepers, for now phew. - 13th Jan - Mcginn injured for months again, fuck - Down a cb Jan sometime - seddon injured for months, again fuck - Down a wb 24th Jan - signed armstrong - 5 forwards, but vale suspended, Moses ill 23rd Jan signed balcombe 23rd Jan - Connelly sent back on loan - back to 2 keepers 23rd Jan - Mair injured - one keeper again 23rd Jan - Connelly temp recalled - 2 keepers again 24th Jan - signed Dom Thompson - back even on WBs So numbers wise, outside of the vale and Tavares signings, we've tended to replace what we've lost, other than midfielders. Stuparevic and Johnny K not being up to scratch hasn't helped. I'd say that if it wasn't for injuries we wouldn't have signed Mair, Balcombe, Kaleta, one of Gordon or Balmer, Andrews, Armstrong, Thompwe'reat least one of Watt/Tavares/JT/vale. If we sign Mcghee then I'd say we're covered numbers-wise. He probably covers CB too. As such, I don't think the signing policy has been chaotic or scatter gun in itself, the fact that we have needed to sign replacements for replacements has meant we really are scraping the bottom of the barrel for incomings. With AP due back, and just signing Armstrong, I wouldn't expect another striker unless someone goes. Saying that, we did have 7 at one point. Moses and Slattery were Ill at the weekend, but could see Moses moving on. Looks like Tavares and Watt will stay unless their parent clubs want to play them. They don't. So the scope for outgoings are Miller and any of those up in the summer on pcas, ie Casey. The only incoming loans we can make have to be u21 due to rules. In conclusion, outside of selling someone, I don't think we need to be online on deadline day. Unless someone else gets injured.