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Ticket sales no doubt would have been as required . But in my view there was more than that in ground as no spaces in either top or bottom tier or either of aisles.

I didn't say he was lying. I was commenting on other posters. However people in his position no matter who they work for can be let's say economical with the truth. Keeping the peace so to speak.

It sounds crazy to suggest our CEO is lying but certainly not impossible. The response to steelboy is maybe the information he has received from others within the club in charge of those matters. However during game it looked overcrowded and watching video clips from skysports after it suggested mass overcrowding so I am going to believe my own eyes and not listen to what someone else says.

I think Balmer will stay in. His throw ins cannot be underestimated. Basically anywhere 25 yards up from goalline as a throw in is equivalent to a corner. So a huge asset. He can throw the ball to the back post so it really is a game changer as has been proven already .

I feel this also as against belgium he was playing right mid of a 3 I'd say with barron directing traffic in middle and so maybe that's why barron looked better. Miller's best position in my mind is in middle directing traffic from deep but he's been played further forward for ur recently where although done OK I don't feel he is on ball enough to utilise his passing which is strongest part of his game I feel

Totally agree with your 2nd point but your 1st point is not what I said. Top players are constantly wanting it or trying to get it back. Big difference to what you say.

Never said that. Interpretation is everything. My observation is justified I feel .Billy gilmour is a ball player but watch him and he never stops moving and he was same at 16 17 18 as he is now. Continuously wanting the ball and wanting it back when he didn't have it.

Yep gemmill is poor but as I said on paper looks strong squad as a lot of players playing regularly in spfl. What it highlights is spfl is not very strong and our players not as gd as some think they are. Miller is only 18 and has all attributes to reach top but I personally feel he has loads to do not least improve his pace and determination. Not meaning to talk him down but Turnbull imo was better although he was 20 in his breakthrough season. If you look at the really top players they never stop running miller just now for me is too passive. That of course is easily rectified and talent which he has in abundance is not. I hope he came off pitch on Friday and thought that's level I need to get to.

Totally agree belgium miles ahead of us. Watson never on miller was anonymous barron and mullen of leeds only ones I'd say were OK maybe other 2 cb murray and neilson. Mebude offered something but I think that showed where we are just now. I also thought johnstone and doig were poor. On paper looks strongest squad for a while buy they look a poorly coached team. No patterns of play all night.

Block e and club disagreements will take a wee bit of give and take I feel from both parties. The situation with the 14 age group is just total madness. We go to high school at age 11/12 meaning for most down street at lunchtime into the local big town etc and generally more leeway from our parents. This age group want to run about with their pals and we need all support we can get so whoever came up with this idea and whoever followed it through must quite frankly be not right in the head.

If there's a chance of ryan jack then I feel the risk is worth it. He is miles in front of anyone else in our midfield with the obvious caveat of fitness. However when phil odonnell came back he had only played 20 games in 4 years and done great for us. Fitness comes and goes and a big part of it is players determination to succeed.

Calm yourself doon .Just repeating what he said. And stop insinuating what I'm saying as your perception is a wee bit different to mine. If a player says what he said if your not shocked with it then I know what's a load of shite . Eloquently put.

I agree this time with you steelboy. Nicholson actually said himself on one of the after match videos last season when asked if he could replicate his super goal he said words along lines of Well maybe if I still had 2 working knees ankles and hips. I was shocked at the time.

Mcginn I'd certainly want to keep. nicholson ? Done some wee bits but plenty like him out there so definitely no loss in losing him. Spittal to hearts is a big loss obviously but what I hope it shows is our best players get moves that increase their wages drastically. Can help with transfers to us with players from lesser teams.

Yep what you say about miller was the change as wee davor in that position cant kick the ball more than 10 yards so when our full backs pushed on he couldnt find them, miller could and did. Vale coming on was great he roamed about all across the pitch inbetween their defense and midfield and going beyond them sometimes and their defenders didnt know where he was. !st half wasnt as bad as being made out I felt. we were in control easily but as only bair up top they were comfortable but we had something like 75% posession so all this about 1st half being terrible is wide of the mark. Gent in for devine on saturday with miller and davor and spittal and vale behind bair for me with nicholson coming on later on for davor when hopefully we are still in game. Last night worried me a bit when seeing the bench as there was not a midfielder on it. if Miller got injured again we have no one to play there. Anyway a good night where we dispatched Livi relatively easy and all the martindale will know how to set up against us chat was proved to be what it was and that is he is a crap manager and they are bottom of league for a reason. Onwards and upwards.

100% correct mate. Blaney straight swap for casey. But his changes to accommodate butcher had our back 3 all over place. Kettlewell has us playing some decent stuff at times but that today is on him. Raging as they aren’t that good certainly worst celtic team in yeard but they still beat us.

The great thing that is going on just now is that everyone is thinking about new ideas on how to improve things. A great post on twitter from Grant Russell highlights loads of options which could improve us . These types of people and the new WS board are definitely giving me hope for the future. Keep the debates and ideas going guys.

Echo what I'm sure everyone feels. StAndrew7 what a great post. There will be different opinions for sure . Initial reaction from myself is WS retain a position with the professionals from Aus doing their stuff seems a win win. Early stages obviously but a club our size needs to use analysis more as was spoken about in great detail by David on another post which was a really interesting read. Smaller clubs in leagues all over Europe use these stats and are giving the big boys a fright.

Not really but top 3 in league are imo kyogo then shankland then dessers/miovski based on last few years. Only reason shankland is 2nd is because he's at hearts and not one of other 2 so doesn't get same praise. Who in your opinion is top 3 in league

Good post Joe and agree with all. We look well drilled but I felt his subs were poor. If and only if gent was injured he could have brought on buyabu to keep same balance. After that was hit and hope from him .Seriously bevis rather than obika when chasing game up top. Shankland difference as he's a top player

Cmon that is a poor argument. Would kyogo score as many if he was at those teams? Shankland has been really good this season and scored lots of different types of goals. He's up there with kyogo and dessers as best in league and is miles in front of them for goals scored.

I'm with you Grizzly but I'd have halliday and miller sitting with Spittal and vale behind bair. Vale looks as if he's got something. Davor and paton as back up gives us bit of depth in there.

I see where your coming from but I do feel he can do all the things you say he can't , however he doesn't do it often enough hence he's at us. All about opinions as always but a cracker I read on twitter today a well fan saying he'd drop spittall tomorrow. I mean he's easily our best player and I think anyone can see he's playing with a huge level of confidence at the moment. Some of his 1 touch pass and move is exceptional. Also Bair on Wed was rolling his foot over ball etc again confidence surging through him. It's a huge plus in players and emphasises points a lot make about being supportive.

Totally grizzlyg. Can anyone tell me what obika can do now? He is seriously hopeless can't jump run pass shoot control I could go on. We were needing g someone on at that time to run in behind when they were pushing on

Agree here a point is gd . Regards SOD if he was playing 1st and 3rd for them don't happen imo . Devine was weak at both.