Spiderpig

Given some of our recent results defensive and boring is what we need. All the best to Robinson if he gets us to a 10th or better finish then it will be a successful season.

Only if there is injury time added, if it's a regulation 90 we should be ok for 1-1.

No sentiment from this older fan would take Hughes over Valakari any day of the week.

On what are you basing that assumption ? I am not getting this enthusiasm for appointing somebody with i assume a limited if any knowledge of the current Scottish game, an average at best record as a manager in a league that probably nobody in Britain sees any of the matches or knows the standard. Yes he was an average at best player for us 20 odd years ago but why would that or any of his other qualities inspire passion, i bet the vast majority of the squad don't have a clue who he is.

FFS was Shergar gay, maybe he was outed and that's why he disappeared.

If it was a one off then yes i would not blame them,these things happen but Motherwell make a habit of it and we never learn,not seeing games out has cost us at least 3 or 4 points this season alone. So that's why we need to be more professional so that when there is a chance to get a win or a draw we take it,playing well for 90 mins counts for nothing if you throw it all away in injury time.

It does not matter who we have as a manager they will still have to work with the players we have at the moment and if those players are not professional enough to keep a clean sheet for 91 mins and end up losing the game then we have major issues. Losing a goal after 92 mins is unacceptable 1-0 or 7-2 it's still a defeat and feck all points that's why we are 3rd bottom. We could bring in Mourinho or Guardiola but if the players are not able to see out the last few seconds of a game then we will have problems, they need to step up and be a bit more professional.

Cut off your reply at the appropriate point , yes we are humans but the harsh reality we are in points make prizes so we need to ensure that if we don't win the game we at least don't lose it. And that's where our problem is, we are absolutely dreadful at seeing games out ,and if we were we would be at least 3 or 4 points better off. Whatever way you look at it losing a goal in the 92nd mins is a bad performance and that's what we need to improve on if we want to stay in the league.

Pish we failed to take anything from the game so it's a bad performance into injury time at 0-0 we should be seeing the game out losing a goal in 92 mins is unacceptable that why we are 3rd bottom

As much as it is an improvement on 7-2 it's a point lost we are fecking crap at seeing games out and holding what we have that's why we are in this position. At the end of the day we might have played better and improved as a team but we still got no points and where we are in the league points are the priority so for me i would rather have a shit performance and a point over a brave effort and feck all to show for it.

What no place on the list for the fans favourites Valakari and Van Der Gaag, surely not.

[quote name="Villageman" We substituted Lasley and Hammell at half time and things improved. You want to bring them back for Aberdeen. Spot on with this, the two of them are done and should be nowhere near the team even with the limited options we have currently.

They are going on about it because it was against one of the ugly sisters, the media are obsessed with pandering to them. If Bowman had tackled a player from any other team we would have heard nothing about it. And as the SFA will say nothing as usual in case they upset them, they both get away with constantly dragging this shite up and conveniently ignoring any similar incidents with their own players.

from what i heard he was utter pish " would struggle to make the U20's never mind the 1st team" was the phrase used. The club was obviously stiched up by his agent and West Ham when we agreed the 6 month loan deal, according to wikipedia he has signed for Slovenian club NK Celje, this February.

Its on Imrie so its a feckin fantastic tackle.

yaaasss get in there,lets hope we can see the game out we need a win big time.

Frear on for Hammell and Bowman on for Lasley.

Whatever people thought about Craig Brown he came in and sorted out the defence and made us hard to beat. Thats what we need right now,from whoever takes over.

Have the rules changed this year if you have a really shit season do you miss out the championship and go straight to league 1.. cheer up ffs try positive thinking you might get to like it.

If you are suggesting that the WS membership should be balloted / consulted / asked for their input on decisions the club has to make then we really are fucked nothing will ever get done. The board of directors which now includes representation from the WS along with the club Chief operating officer are the people empowered to make the decisions at the club nobody else.

Playing with 2 wide men is a luxury we vant afford. we need a strong midfield so if mcHugh is going to play at centre half with Hennighan then i would have Pearson, Lucas and Lasley ( ideally as i think he is done he should be nowhere near the team but needs must as there are no options). We have not seen much of Frear but he looks like he has some pace so i would give him the nod over Ainsworth, who so far this season has been crap any time he has played. We need every player to give 100% effort from now on if we are to avoid the bottom 2 league places and Ainsworth does not do that.

Can we park this thread until we are actually looking for a new manager, which in my opinion will be in the summer as i don't think any of the people running the club these days have the balls or willingness to sack McGhee

Regarding Ainsworth i think its a much simpler explanation, he's been found out to be disinterested and lazy and has contributed nothing to the team all season so far, that's why he is not getting a game, playing someone to give you 5 mins of great play followed by 85 mins of the invisible man impressions are a luxury we cant afford.

A few weeks ago i still thought McGhee would be the man to keep us up and maybe even repeat last season and get us a top 6 finish again but it has become increasingly obvious that he has lost it, even accepting that his choices were limited on Saturday due to injuries and suspensions his constant inability to see a problem and make changes during the game are costing us big time. We still have time to go on a decent run and haul ourselves back to safety but i am not sure if McGhee is the man to do it. There are dangers in bringing in another manager at this time of the season straight into a relegation battle but i think that's a risk we need to take because doing nothing is not an option. PS i am not getting all of this Simo Valakari for manager chat, if he had not played for us 20 odd years ago would anybody be calling for him to get the job i think not, and as for his record 1 success with an obscure Finnish team is hardly a glowing recommendation.

I know that's the case but given the choice between him and Clay i would put him back in there, from now on in its about results. We all know he is done but as it stands he is the only option McGhee has, but that said you are probably right he will continue to go chasing up the park and be 2nd to every ball and end up diving in to tackles and chasing the game like he normally does.