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A legend is born when we win silverware, that's why Tommy McLean is given that accolade and if truth be told for much of Tommy's 10 year reign we were relegation cannon fodder but where he took us from and to is what puts him in that category for me.

I think Falkirk are the best team we've faced over 3 games , anyone hear how many fans Falkirk brought to day. Looked a healthy support again.

The second goal was on Watt for me.

All about opinions , ours just differ and the seasons end will see who was right.

Apologies I thought Falkirk were 5 behind. As you say 4th is ours to lose and that's exactly what we will do. Happy for others to disagree but when the chips have been down in crucial games this season we've blown it at the business end of the season. It was every bit as bad as it looked today, we were awful all over the park, our passing was poor our decision making even worse, our first touch was shocking. How many times did the Keeper / Watt passing play signal we were going to fuck it up before we did. We should have seen that Falkirk had us rumbled and their high press was excellent giving up no room. There were 5 occasions that I counted where we got away with that play by Keeper/ Watt by a baw hair, the signals were there but yet we kept doing it until the inevitable fuck up. happened

Compare and contrast, every time Falkirk got to the edge of or 18 yard box there were either 3 or 4 Falkirk players in and around the box. Every time we did likewise we had Manwanhise in the box and every other Motherwell player a mile behind him.

Ill make another we wont get into Europe. Absolutely collapsing at the wrong time. How many warnings did we get with the ball from keeper to Ward before we finally gave them what had been coming all first half. How the fuck Said stayed on is beyond me , he was beyond pish but to be fair there were many to choose from. Falkirk took the absolute piss out of us and deserved everything they got. Maswanhise couldn't trap a bag of cement, another Theo Bair. Take the money and run in the summer. . (I had left before he scored but doesn't change my view) A season of stunning football and we will end up with fuck all to show for it. I go to Tynecastle in real trepidation. To think 6 weeks ago I was worried about going on holiday and missing the last two games and the Scottish Cup final. Be quite glad I'm away the way its going right now. European place is advantage Hibs as we need to go there and frankly its now not beyond the realms of possibility Falkirk could catch us with us going there too.

With them to face at Easter Road I think we need 8/9 ahead at the split to be sure. They've got Kilmarnock and Aberdeen and we have Falkirk and Hearts. I suspect the gap will be less than 6 going into the split.

Really piss poor from both teams , draw was about right, better point for us than for them. Only highlight we didnt get beat.

🤣 Think we might be related today

Oh so do I but it would be just so Motherwell to play the best Football any of us have seen in 60 years and end up 5th.

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Being Motherwell and the fact a win would very near nail 4th place I fully expect us to play well ..........and lose.

Exactly his stock and that of the players ae sky high, that is why they will be taken from us. Any notion that we can hold on to players playing as they are and the manager are fanciful. At the very most JBA will be with us one more season. The only way he wouldn't leave in year two would be if we were pish at which point interest in his would drop.

Because as much as Tommy McLeans achievement was outstanding fort much of his 10 year spell were were poor relegation / bottom half fodder. It was only in the later part of his rein that the team turned into anything. special. Therefore for much of his 10 years no one was desperate to get him as their manager nor sign most of our players. The minute he did achieve he moved on and the team was broken up. Tommy McLean completely endorses my point. Tommy McLeans Team positions from 82/83 82/83 8th 83/84 10th Relegated 84/85 Relegated in 1st Division 85/86 9th 86/87 8th 87/88 8th 88/89 9th 89/90 6th 90/91 6th 91/92 10th 92/93 9th 93/94 3rd Tommy McLean left for Hearts June 1994

No other result other than a defeat is coming in this game.

You are being ultra optimistic. Clubs like us are rarely allowed to maintain success because the minute we are successful our players and managers are taken from us so just like every other season we will be faced with a rebuild. So any notion that we will build upon success year after year if quite frankly unlikely for a club of our size. The ambitions are laudable but the chances of it building into a trophy wining team are remote.

success in terms of silverware will always be a longshot because as soon as clubs like us get success the manager and players ae taken from us. That is why its so infuriating when we fuck up when a tournament opens up for us. Rangers and Celtic will never both be as bad in the same season for many years to come. So therefore Id bite your hand off for just one more success before I die and if that trade off if eye bleeding shite for a season I'd take it. That is not to say I don't support and enjoy what were are doing . The question of "what would you take .a great season or relegation and a cup win.." was always a hypothetical , its never an offer that will ever be presented to us.

Yeah but the damage has been undone , Silverware is permanent form and status are fluid.

We need to be up for it to keep Hibs at bay. They play Livingston while we play Celtic so we are realistically going into a head to head with Hibs with only 4 points between us.

Ive never been in the camp that we could win the league , you just needed to look at our remaining fixtures before today and we' realistically needed to win 9 of our remaining 10 games. That meant winning at Celtic Park, Tynecastle , Ibrox , Easter Road and Celtic and Hearts at Fir Park , In no world was that EVER going to happen.

as I said a view that suggests any team that doesn't win deserves to lose and I just don't accept that. We will just need to agree to differ.

So by that theory every game you don't win you deserve to lose? don't agree. Dundee didn't deserve to win today.

Silverware is permanent , form and league status are transient.

We were a bit off it today but fort the life of me I cant believe folk saying Dundee deserved to win. They had two efforts on goal and scored with both. One being an absolute gift. By any measure of all statistics today we didnt deserve to lose even as below par as we were.