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I feel we are in a rut , our defence is shocking no matter the permutation. We are lightweight middle and front. I only see us improving once McGinn and Preistman come back. Hearts will take us quite easily and most of it will be self inflicted.

I refuse to watch any re run of that garbage. "a punch in the face" ?? try a little lower.

That's something I watch every week and seriously the numbers are fucking shocking. He never hits a 50% success rate in the warm up shooting practice.

oh hes not alone but doesnt stop him being honking.

Girdwood -Reich is truly appalling

I might take exception that these "arent bad players". I remain to be convinced most of them aint dross.

That second half was every bit as bad as the Celtic game against a piss poor Kilmarmock team that should basically have humped us. Utterly clueless. SOD will come in for huge criticism today and much of it deserved but he wasn't alone. When one or two players have a bad game its an off day but when every player continually looks rotten there are two issues and they are either the players are not that good or the manager doesnt know how to get the best out of them. If you have both you have big problems. I'm now over 50% convinced AJ is a poor choice (that said I still stand by the line it would be crazy to sack a manager after 9 league games). I'm actually becoming more convinced every week that we've spent two million quid on utter dross (Lowery, excluded) . Mooreman is slower than me and Girwood-Reich is slower than Mooreman. Far too soon to press the panic button yet but if we keep playing like that today we are relegation certainties.

Afraid I wouldn't waste my time discussing such absolute bollocks any further. Those of you who prefer to imagine stuff and discuss something you have absolutely no way of proving knock yourself out. I heard the manager had Maswanhise by the throat up against a wall, there you go theres another piece of pish to get your teeth into. None of you can say it didnt happen 🙄

Correct fans wont know one way or another from a result this weekend if there is disquiet in the dressing room , all it will be is pure and utter guesswork.

Oh its very easy to say its utter nonsense because its not based on one scintilla of fact. .

Absolutely nothing that happens at the weekend will point to disquiet in the camp, what utter nonsense. What a defeat will point to is either 1. The manager go his tactics wrong or 2. The players might not be as good as some think or 3. Both of the above

Sadly we've had several Willys starting every week.

When things are rolling against you things tend to get a lot worse before they get better. For that reason and the fact I'm not convinced about our recruitment I think we will lose again. There is an obsession right now about the manager and frankly we need to be asking questions of many of the players we spent £2million on.

I love comments like " players not listening to him/"buying into" his instructions." based on absolutely fuck all. The amount of utter pish spouted about what is happening in the dressing room grows arms and legs with every defeat.

The club now count season ticket holders whether they attend or not. The stands were emptier today and I don't think there were 10682 actually in the ground. I suspect quite a few season ticket holders gave this home game a miss because a combination of it now being the most toxic game, with the most poisonous atmosphere on our fixture list as well as it being moved to 12pm on a Sunday. So far the home crowds have held up well with an average of 7700 excluding European games, however that will get worse if we don't start getting our act together. My biggest concern this season so far is for the first time in 25 years, ironically, we've actually been able to spend money and so far on whats showing we've got fuck all for nearly £2million spent.

Dundee fans were saying all this same stuff 10 games into Pressleys reign . Its absolutely ludicrous to think of changing manager right now... which will never happen anyway.

The crowd was 10682, same fixture last December was 11435. A drop of 753. Fans are hardly deserting in droves, yet.

I'm as disappointed as anyone and as yet unconvinced by the manager or indeed most of the signings but people wanting the manager sacked 8 games into the season is absolutely laughable. 8 games for fuck sake !!! get a grip. I listened to this same kind of talk when Pressley was 10 games in at Dundee.

Tawanda and Kanga should have started on the bench, Tawanda has been pish for months and deserves a place on the bench Kanga just isn't up to speed yet. I have no issue with the manager trying something different, including giving Vogts a start. My issue was it was very clear in the first half Vogts wasn't going to cut it today and the midfield was totally ineffective. So why did the manager wait to change it. It should have been changed at half time.... AT THE LATEST The manager watched Sparrow being shagged the entire 1st half and did nothing to protect or help him. Sparrow ain't a right back but if you ask him to do that job he should get support / help 100% the managers fault.

How anyone cant see that Celtic opened us up time and again I find truly astonishing. The keeper saved us from a hammering.

You and I definitely watch different games. Celtic opened us up time and again 6 or 7 goals to Celtic would not have been an injustice.

Correct and the manager should have made the change at half time. It was obvious that team selection was wrong. I said to my mate we'd wait until we were 2-0 down before we changed the team. Manager 100% culpable. No doubt everyone will blame SOD for the 2nd goal but for me it lies with Sparrow. Sparrow was getting roasted the entire game and the manager did fuck all to protect him or change..

100% on the manager, wrong team and waited too long to make the substitutions. Celtic should have scored 7 or 8. Utterly dreadful

There was a huge over reaction after the Rangers and Dundee games when in reality two howling goalkeeping errors were our undoing.. I still don't think we will get anything today cos Celtic have better players. October is huge for us cos two midweek games so alot of games that could set the tone for the rest of our season. Outside the big city clubs you rarely see a club having back to back good seasons because their success is sold from under them and that's our likely position this season. Im struggling to see what team will be the fall guy this year which is a pity. I always like to see someone detached early to give us some breathing space. I don't think that will happen this season. Everything is in the balance.

I think we will lose because I don't think we have the players to beat them. I'm not convinced our recruitment has been as good as we maybe thought. Time will tell. One pound gets you a hundred Maswanhise will start and be our main threat cos we are trying to protect his January selling price.