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For me the jury is still out whether "we have the players" other than Lowry I've not see the levels of consistency from the rest to categorically agree with that statement. Before the happy clappers get their knickers in an uproar I'm NOT saying we haven't I just need to see more before I can make that call.

I'm over it now, its history, no amount of racking over it changes anything. Based on what I've seen so far this season I'm 50/50 whether the we have what it takes to finish top 6. That can of course change in a heartbeat to being totally pish or excellent, time will tell. I'd like to think having invested more money in the squad than we've done for 25 years that its the latter. Two out of next three at home and a tough run of three games to come but we need something to steady the ship after 3 games where we've basically been effective for 25 minutes out of 270.

Long way short of the "beginning of the end" even if we lose. Certainly will go a long way to denting confidence and that makes the games against Celtic and Hearts a bit more difficult. That said if we win (which I dont think we will) it puts the feel good factor back on the boil for two big home games.

Im not disagreeing with you, I'm agreeing that stats can be very misleading.

Who is over reacting?? people are commenting on where we are now. No one is saying we are relegation material , no one is saying we will not make top 6.

We deserved to lose , the stats are very misleading. We had a pass accuracy of 87% but most of that was in our own half across the back and middle. We were slow and ponderous and never really threatened Aberdeen at any time. Even though they had far less possession they looked more likely to score than us and I wasn't shocked when they did cos as you say they went very close twice before they score and they showed all night if we gave them a sniff at goal they shoot from distance..

Right now wish I hadn't got a ticket but that will change by Saturday. Right now Id bite your hand off for a point considering we follow up with Celtic and Hearts.

I really dont see what thats got to do with anything , people are commenting on what we are watching now not where we will finish at season end.

What does that change. It doesn't change how we are playing now.

We see it differently

No two ways about it that was abysmal. Its not as if Aberdeen didn't play as anyone would expect. Its an absolute embarrassment losing 4 goals at home to that Aberdeen team. Long ball merchants all game and we couldnt deal with it.

I think Dundee are a better team than us right now , so a point would be a great result. Dont think we will get it cos that defence will concede and just don't see us scoring.

Far too early in the season to say crisis but not to early to say we have basically been mediocre at best and utter shite tonight. We did as well as could be expected in Europe. In the League very Iffy Hibs away decent enough Falkirk at home struggled Stenhousemuir abysmal , poor team selection Dundee UTD at home played very well but helped by playing against 10 men for 75 mins St Mirren outstanding for 25 mins , could have conceded 5 , scraped a draw Rangers lucky not to get a hiding Aberdeen , horsed by a team of hoofball merchants. No crisis but let not paper over the cracks.

They were a baw from scoring twice before they did. The warning signs were there. First Aberdeen team to beat us by a 4 goal margin since Alex Ferguson days. That sums us up tonight. The defence is piss poor and we have zero up front. Maswanhise and RCC are not going to score many goals. I'm not convinced by this squad, yet. Not saying it wont change but still not convinced . I think there has been a lot of hype about a good bit of it unjustified. Pretty patterns with nothing at the end of it was pointless. We badly need to take something from Dens but I fear another grim day ahead.

You may not be wrong but long road to go. 3 goals to St Mirren, Rangers should have taken 4 off us and a piss poor Aberdeen took 4 off us. Nothing up front and a piss poor defence.

2 shots on target 2 goals. You only need a couple when we give gifts like tonight, absolute shite.

Sadly game going exactly as I said it would. Nothing up front. Pretty patterns and creating nothing. Undone by a shower of lingball merchants. Kanga need taken off and Said on. I take Cook off and bring on Bjorgolfson. Can't see anything but a defeat as it stands

Hes probably just bored fielding the same banal shite from the media.

I don't expect a lot of goals and would happily take 1-0. Aberdeen are utter pish but their objective will be to stop us playing. We are very lightweight up front and the St Mirren game AND the Rangers game showed some concerning defensive frailties. If Rangers had their shooting boots on they'd have pumped us. This game could go either way.

I'm a bit worried about this game, simply because Aberdeen are absolutely shite and by all measures we should take care of them. A win keeps confidence building, another defeat and our good start takes a knock. I can see us dropping a point / points in this one.

Fair enough. I hate Stadiums like St Mirrens and St Johnstones. How much more expensive would it have been to fill in the corners. Even Livingstons 10,000 seater is better than those two.

Oh Elivas Shivute is right up there with biggest waste of space as was Bob Malcolm but at least we didn't pay any cash for them.

And a Stadium like St Mirrens would severely restrict our capacity for income. We have a capacity for 4800 away fans every game, St Mirren have capacity for 1400 that's why their average crowds were so far behind us last season (8620 v 6835) we had room for more home fans and alot of away fans. If we were to build a new stadium it cannot be with a capacity any less than 12,000.

No I'm with you. I think its good and exciting , that's why i'm so against changing leagues cos it changes fuck all. However any product can be improved . Excitement, increase investment and keeping it affordable are what we should be looking at. However there are plenty things we could do to enhance an already decent product.

It baffles me the amount of Blazers and fans who think changing the leagues changes anything. All it would do is spread limited income even thinner. Not one league reconstruction in the last 50 years delivered any of the promised benefits It didn't increase attendances It didn't result in more young players It didn't improve the quality. It didn't make the games more exciting It didn't remove the fear factor. Its actually a sad state of affairs that it is all anyone can come up with and they think its radical thinking. Probably explains why fuck all ever changes in the Scottish game. For me to be radical we should try and get more excitement and generate more money rather than shuffling who the teams are (off the top of my head) Move to summer football, stop trying to be a cheap version of the English Leagues. Secure better TV deals based on Summer Football If a game ends in a draw it goes to a penalty shoot out. If you lose the shoot out you get 1 point , if you win it you get 3 points. If you win in normal time you get 4 points. Stop seeding in the League Cup. End the League Cup sections (Another thing that was done 50 years ago and was binned because it was boring and fans didn't turn out). Away tickets capped at £25 (most clubs home tickets can be obtained for less than that) Every teams games able to be streamed live on an SPFL TV reliable platform (lets look at it realistically many folk already get it illegally anyway, so get the money to the clubs not the IPTV providers) Create one ticketing platform where fans can also buy away season tickets (Having to get a physical tickets that gets scanned anyway at the grounds is a pain in the arse ) Stop allocating a seat number on visiting fans tickets. Print "Sit Anywhere" on every ticket. All grounds to have QR codes at the gates so folk can buy at the gate on the day of the game. Stop Sending offs (it generally ruins a game) a 10 or 15 min sin bin to replace sending off. All referees wired to stadium speakers as they have in Rugby to explain VAR decisions . All top League grounds to have Large TV Screens where the VAR pictures are replayed as the decisions are being reviewed (as they do in international rugby) Strict limit of 2 mins on VAR reviews. If they cant decide in 2 mins its not clear and obvious and on field decision stands. Points deductions enforced if fans destroy away ground facilities. Points deductions if fans enter the field of play. End the Rangers / Celtic strangle hold on the voting structure but ALL the authorities will ever do is change the number of teams in a league cos we are "all bored watching us play the same teams". Not once in 50 years have I ever gone to a game thinking "aw fuck Hearts for the 4th time I wish it was Dunfermline" Scottish football is so utterly pathetic because they couldn't have a radical thought if their life depended on it.