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i would agree but i still stand by my view defeat is easier take with the Scottish Footballing mindset. Anyway plenty will disagree with me im actually boring myself now so offer no more comment on the subject

i dont really buy into the learning curve from one game to another , no two games are the same the amount of different variables from each game are enormous. If that learning was as effective as people think Scotland wouldn't be looking at 20 years of failure on he international stage. i remember two season back we blew 7 or 8 games out of 12 the last 3 or 4 minutes ... if wed learned anything that shouldnt happen

im perfectly chilled thanks my observations as you will see in my posts are not restricted to Motherwell

I don't think for one minute Robinson or the players set out to get beat but there is no question in my mind they subconsciously realise defeat is expected and people will give them plaudits as long as they don't get pumped, so its OK. That mindset is endemic in Scottish Football so if you never really expect to win you rarely will. You hear many fans of all teams write the OF games off saying these games don't matter cos we are not expected to get anything out of them.

Im well aware of Celtics budget its the mentality of Scots that irks me , we revel in making defeat palatable. Defeat should be unpalatable and painful in competitive sports thats how winners become winners. I fully accept resources will have an impact but so does mindset and expectation. . Maybe if defeat wasnt so readily made palatable the mindset might change and just maybe we might see Scotland and Scottish teams improve their standing. Frankly once we lose I couldn't give a flying fuck about all the positives it has absolutely no bearing on the next game. Same as the bollocks that we learn from defeat, if Scottish teams and players learned from defeat we'd have one of the most well educated prepared players on the planet. If we lost or are unlucky or brave I couldnt give a flying fuck, we move on and try not to bask in defeat. Never mind how many corners we got , how many throw in we had. Fuck me Craig Brown once said his team had won the game in corners. That entire mindset sets my teeth jangling. Look at Iceland Scotland could play for a 1000 years and never achieve what a country of 300,000 did at a major tournament, that's not down to resource. Though I accept the premise resources will always be a factor but so is an accepting get you excuses in early losers mentality.

i wish the Scottish mentality was there are NO positives in defeat, our game might not be so piss poor from top to bottom if we didnt so readily console ourselves in continual defeat

no offence buddy but so what when you give away two goals to a poor performing Celtic team. It means nothing and achieved nothing. No one will look back on this game and say remember the amount of possession and long throws we had.

afraid it amount to a whole load of nothing

and whats the difference losing well and losing badly ... absolutely bugger all ... but they'll be queuing up to take positives from the defeat, its the Scottish mentality we are comfortable losers from the top of the game to the juniors

then someone would interupt your dream

and thats why there is negativity its as predictable as rain 2-0. Celtic far from impressive and we cant lay a punch on them.. as was correctly said at 1-0......... game done.

No offence but thats generic manager / player bollocks that means nothing in terms of likely outcome.

Its more the fear of the unknown when a manager leaves , the thought of the potential tossers you could get especially when we have had stability longer than most clubs . Robinson had been clearly dedicated ad none too shabby in the transfer market. It the worry of that stability falling apart that concerns most fans. However every club with the exception of the elites sees their best move on. Id be sorry to see Robinson go , he does have an affinity for the club but like players hes earned his big pay day move when it comes.

Once again the fans get carried away and once again the team dont turn up.

Why the feck did I sign up , utter pish

Signed up now everything went through OK just waiting now for the game.. Fingers crossed. It a other ROSS County game where expectation high outcome low

Cheers mate I looked at sign up page and couldn't see it will look again

It really doesn't matter a fig, all managers times come and go, where he goes I care not a jot, he is then ex Motherwell and we move on as we always do.

I am in Cyprus until the end of the month does anyone know if you can sign up for Motherwell TV for one month. I really want to see Aberdeen game. Have messaged the club on twitter and got no response. Anyone know or tried it

If thats the case its still disgraceful , fans paying for their inability to their costs under control

Im not really asking them to drop them I'm asking them to match inflation or at least mirror whats going on in the wider society. I would dearly love to know what costs Hearts are having that's increasing 18% annually. If its players wages then that's a choice not costs forced upon them.

Every one of us was fleeced be in no doubt. Pensioner concessions were £21 . In no scenario is charging fans £29 for an SPFL game acceptable , it's utterly disgraceful. All it does is up the ante. Clubs see Hearts getting away with it and it becomes the norm because we will no doubt retaliate in the reverse fixture. Most punters are not getting pay rises above 1% but a Football club thinks a ticket price rise of 18% from last season to this is acceptable. Dick Turpin at least wore a mask.

I was actually calling for Seedorf to be subbed just at the minute he scored. I was probably in a minority of one but although his work rate can't be faulted he is very easily dispossessed and I didn't think much was coming off for him. He's very rough round the edges but when you can compensate with the kind of goals hes scored in the last two weeks not many will complain. We were actually walking away from Tynecastle a wee bit deflated (I know it's mad) had we scored 6 no one could have complained but they always have to put us through the wringer. By time we'd reached the car the deflation had gone LOL

We were shocking defensively and zero threat up front

Cheers mate I'm at least reassured I'm not going mad and wasn't only one to experience it. I did ask the question on the clubs twitter feed but didn't get a response. ** edit Just checked my emails and club have sent confirmation email saying thanks for buying ticket and our existing card has been re-validated. Maybe IT just need to tidy up payment pages on clubs website.