wellsince75

McCall wasn't good enough for the championship with either Ayr or Partick. Both teams got relegated . He hasn't had a decent record since 2002 and is now 60. We all have opinions , just surpises me that his name crops up. A few weeks ago we were going fine. I'd personally give SK time to turn things around.

we have - we signed Gent on a season long loan. Whether the boy is good enough is a different question.

The mark of a good manager is how he turns things around when going gets tough . When SK first came in he did the simple things well . Went to a 5-3-2 that pivots to a 3-5-2 moving forward All players knew their role and worked hard . Generally players were played on their natural position . we didn’t sign any wide players by choice , we signed players to fit this formation . Today’s tactics were all over the place . Several players in strange positions . SK needs to go back to basics . He’s a bright manager and sees the obvious , he needs to get back to his own game plan .

Another clueless performance reminissent of GA and SHs tenure . zero shape or clue to what we’re doing

It’s a complete joke . We play with zero width - we try and muscle our way through the middle - complete waste of time and for whatever reason we seem to play with a 2 man midfield - utter bollocks

Appreciate Mika needs to come off . thought we’d bring on shaw for Mika bring on Slattery for McGinn

You could have put just about any of our players in that statement

McGinn is complete waste of space as a wingback - no harm to him but he has zero creative skill need to see some change - this game is going nowhere

Kelly should have done better killie now had 6-7 shots on target we’ve had zero the game plan - whatever the plan is isn’t working

Looks like a form of 3-2-2-2-1 . That swaps into a 5-4-1 honestly not sold on the shape or formation. That said when we have 3 up front Wilkinson looks far better

Lack of goal threat is frustrating . i get that we need to close door and stop shipping goals . First half thought our shape was weird with several players out of position . still in the game though

Pitch is a disgrace and an embarrassment to Scottish football standards on the positive butcher is back - liking him refereeing the ref

We look to have almost all outfiled players on the right hand side of the park - very lopsided

David - agree that the present is now what matters. Had we lost the 19 games last season it would matter as we'd be calling for SKs head. Key point for me is not to judge any manager on a run of 10 games or 5 games.

Good to see ringing the changes - that's a positive sign. Re formation I'm thinking Bair is being played behind the strikers - which would make sense as he's a bing strong unit. Surprised Davor doesn't make a start - now seemed an obvious time to give the boy a go.

you nailed it. Was looking at the stats - first 5 games we averaged 5-6 shots on target per game, more than double the opposition. That's slumped to 2-3 shots on target v's opposition with double what we offer. Need to reverse that trend , best form of defence being attack.

Two that I remember with fondness Hugh Sproat and Big Sieb. Any keeper willing to swing on the bar or ready to destroy anyone who came into his box is a winner in my eyes.

I've got a great deal of empathy for Kelly. He's the last line of defence and should have much better support from the rest of the team. Yes I think he could have done better with some of the goals recently but as I see it, he's offered very little protection. Examples from last 2 games. Wilkinson up front. Nothing stuck, he gave the ball away. Teams have been walking through the midfield with very little to stop them. Defenssively basic errors, not marking and not defending the 6 yard box. Our keeper doesn't deal with with crosses, we know this but he makes up for it in other qualities. He needs to take some accountability but we're not losing games because of him. Be careful what you wish for, assuming we can get a better keeper than someone who's kicking around the Scotland squad is a dangerous assumption to make.

This seasons win record is 30%, if this continues we will be concerned but it's only 10 games. Had we won an additional game it would be 40%, more than respectable for any Well manager. From the 29 games SK has managed we have a win record of 52%. Awesome, that's up there with the best of them. Assuming we can improve from 30% to +35% for the season we'll be fine. The key for now is breaking the run of form and finding a way to win.

one option that may help is play Butcher in the position that you have Davor. Just in front of the defence. A midfield with Miller, Davor, Butcher, Paton would be hardworking albeit lack a bit of creativity. Slattery/Splittal could do with time on the bench. Neither are great when the going get's tough.

Completely with you Weeyin. Losing games sucks, we all hate it, particularly when we have a run of bad games. Confidence goes down and all of a sudden our euro hopefuls are all a waste of space. SK brought stability and has talked for me complete sense , never sugar coating our issue and open to his own mistakes. We need to stop this merry go round of looking to offload managers every year or so. 2 months ago people were talking about the need to sign him for longer, now there's chatter of not making the grade. Need to look long term and beyond a few bad results.

Kelly had a poor game. Perhaps he should be dropped, that said most of yesterdays starting 11 could/should be dropped. At their best our players work hard , have great shape and win majority of 2nd balls, with Mika up front we have a glimmer of something exciting. At worst we perform as we have in last couple of games. Kelly, S'OD, Mugabi, Miller, Spittal, Slattery, Wilkinson could easily be dropped but we're fairly limited with who would replace them. I'd personally drop several akin to how wee Tommy approached poor performances back in the day. For Saturday I'd start Butcher, McGinn , Casey, Paton. Mika coming on for part of the 2nd half. Other than that it's all up for debate.

Above all else I want to see a reaction to last nights performance. Takes me back to games under McLean, there were plenty of very poor performances but never 2 in a row. The team would get a roasting and come out fighting. Want to see that type of reaction on Saturday. My base expectation is we come out as a well drilled team and do the basics well, eg fight and win the 2nd ball. A few players need to be dropped as they need a kick up the backside. Plenty could be dropped , 6-7 who started last night could well drop out of contention , including our captain.

Casey, Spencer, Paton, Bireth all very good signings. Davor - no idea but would like to see him given a run of games. The rest have been poor signings but that's par for the course. As long as we move people on asap then I'll accept a mixed bag.

Sadly the steady decline of performance continues and all confidence the team had has eroded . at our best we’re a well organised crew , who are well drilled and win our fair share of 2nd balls . Sadly we’re well off that at the moment . need to get back to basics , become hard to beat. can see us pivot to a 4-4-2 once Mika is fit enough to play a full game . for sat it will be 5-4-1 with Bair up front.