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Not sure if he was serious 🧐

Wellgirl & bobbybingo, what I’m saying is that at the window Bowie couldn’t know which KVV would return - the goal machine from last season if he got himself sorted or the no confidence one from this season - so decided to hedge his bets and not take the chance that StM got a goal machine. That’s why I’m saying it’s potentially money well spent. As a side note, while checking the league to see how many wins Killie still need to secure 4th, I’ve just worked out that if they get beaten in every game from now to the end of the season, StM only win against Killie but also lose the rest and we win every game out-with the OF then we make 4th - how much of a shock would that be

I view it differently, signing KVV stopped StM getting him and if he’d hit form for StM then 4th place would have been lost to Killie. Further to that Killie getting 4th and making Europe will just about cover the cost of a new pitch so paying KVV circa £100K could be money well spent.

Initial thoughts on the game are we were terrible in the first half - unsure if that was because of the state of the half of the park we were shooting towards, piss poor play, over cautious tactics or a combination of all of the above. Second half passing and tactics to go forward improved and we looked better but WTF was Kelly doing at the second goal? I thought our penalty was never a penalty and that VAR/referee bottled not giving it but will reserve judgment until I see it again. After that the rest of the game was manic and we could have scored another 1 or 2 goals. Delighted with the result.

Nobody even trying to header that Also, passing as bad as last week - and that’s me allowing for the pitch.

If the game is postponed that will be their 5th home game and given that they only play 19 league games at home that’s 25% so far and that could still rise. It appears to me that they priorities wages for players over making the park up to standard and as such should be punished either financially, point reduction or both.

Obviously we need to wait and see what the offer is and how it is structured but what do folk seriously think would be an acceptable level of investment for a minority control of the club? I don’t know but the £300K per year mentioned earlier is less than 10% of our current turnover but if the £1.5M figure I seem to remember as our players wage bill is correct and the money all went to this then that’s a 20% increase. You could equate that to one extra player on just under £6K per week, two extra players on £3K or three extra players on £2K per week. Would bringing in one, two or three players who would accept these wages really change things or guarantee our top flight survival long term? I don’t think so. In which case what would be the point or worth of accepting such an offer?

Piss poor passing, piss poor marking, overall a piss poor game

I don’t like the time it takes to make a decision but if they have to review 3 or 4 cameras then recheck to confirm things to avoid mistakes then - no matter how pissed off I feel I can accept that - BUT to take so long and then make the wrong decision is incompetence and that should get them removed from the job. The thing is tv footage can be reviewed anywhere so why not have foreign retired refs (who have no affiliation to the incompetent clique we have or Scottish clubs) do the review’s. Mistakes will probably still be made but we would know that they were honest mistakes.

It would be interesting to see what the league table would look like if the goals/penalties that were allowed/disallowed were left as the original on field decisions. would we be better off or worse off? Obviously this would still be inaccurate as sending offs etc which potential changed games can’t be taken into account.

Well if the country is overtaken by a totalitarian regime and public executions at football grounds become the thing………..

I was in favour of VAR - or more the idea of VAR - but now I think it’s a joke, not just here but down south as well. If it’s going to be kept it needs to be stripped back to basic’s.

Agree with your sentiments and probably the WS board does too, which is why I suspect they’re having a collection for the community trust to save them having to be seen to give the trust money directly. If this raises £2000 for the trust then it’s £2000 that the WS doesn’t need to give them.

I’m thinking that possibly by raising money this way it allows the society to have to give less to the trust therefore it’s indirectly beneficial for the society’s bank balance without being seen to be shaking the bucket for themselves.

Agree with you on the low response, it’s disappointing. A few members may have changed their email address and not notified the society, a few may have sadly passed away, some people may have put money in who aren’t fans but liked the idea of a fan owned club and feel they shouldn’t make decision on the future of the club but added up that’s not enough to make a difference. The apathy concerns me as like you I voted yes so that no opinion’s were taken off the table but I’m definitely not in favour of giving up on fan ownership and hope that between now and - if - an offer is put before us then the society will try to check that they have the correct and updated details of as many members as possible. min not in favour of having the board members standing at games looking for the members as this could lead to them being abused by members/non members.

A joy to have so many to choose from but despite giving me a couple of heart in mouth moments I’ve gave it to Liam Kelly.

The guy’s been on good form the last week, told his co commentator to shut it when he suggested Rangers or Celtic should sign Lennon Miller last Sunday, said on Wednesday that he should be left to continue his development at Motherwell for the next 15 seasons and topped it off tonight saying he had lost his hair twice since Motherwell last beat Rangers in the league Also, he’s had more faith in the manager and squad than most of us on here this season.

No need for guilt, any WS member could email the society and ask as you did.

Agree, Devine is a young lad so playing a couple of games in a short time shouldn’t bother him as long as he’s not got a slight injury.

Santheman this isn’t directed at you so nothing personal but on the above point here’s my view on folk getting their knickers in a twist and ranting before anything has been said. Firstly, I’d think that both the WS & MFC board will be bound by some sort of confidentiality agreement with the other parties so what they can say at the moment will be limited - if I were the investor I’d certainly be insisting on that. I’d like to think that they will both update everyone as and when they can. Other than that both are tasked with ensuring the long term interest of Motherwell football club and not giving continuous updates on what’s happening with everything that is going on with the club - no matter what they say someone will still think it’s not good enough and think they know better. Although I agree with folk that the board haven’t covered themselves in glory lately.

Luckily for you it’s only 3 years 11 months

Are you suggesting trying to form some sort of a striking partnership between Bair and Vale? Such a radical notion will never catch on.

Agree, Mugabi has been unfairly blamed, probably because he’s the guy closest to Shankland as he scores but he wasn’t marking him at the start and you could see by his reaction that he was pissed off at the time. SOD will (or should be) embarrassed at the second as he didn’t see the other hearts player and possibly when he did see him tried not to collide with him and give away a penalty but his fall looks comical- these things happen.

Celtic are a weaker team just now, although they should still be good enough to get a win against us but we can only hope otherwise. Abada is a loss for them but that’s not all of their problem, they seem to be missing something and are not clicking as a team - let’s hope Brendon doesn’t fix it before next Sunday.