Onthefringes

Conjecture? Not on my part. All that was said was ‘access granted to the away support’ which it was - in advance or not is nether here nor there. Don’t recall anybody mentioning one group gaining more access than the other? For the avoidance of doubt, the representations to the club by many including those not in any of the groups & any protest isn’t down to no access to have displays.

Semantics Mr Park. Entry to the ground with at least one box full of glossy copy paper isn’t exactly sneaking the stuff in so ‘access granted to the away support for a display’ isn’t an untruth.

😂 ‘can’t be disputed’ yet, easily discounted.

No bother precious. To answer your question. My difference of opinion, informed or not, doesn’t make yours or other opinion ‘tired repetition’ - it’s the whataboutery of they did this, they did that & we don’t agree with is or we don’t agree with that. It’s not inextricably linked to the statements made or protest yet, some have it on rinse, repeat. Only asked for something different? Dont know where “The bois can do no wrong in your eyes” chat comes from. I’ve already stated they’ve been censured and plenty of us remind them when required. You’re again linking the “bois” when in truth their input to what you claim is minimal if at all. That’s the facts…

So you say. Why then the representations being offered to the club from many in the fanbase who are not attached in any way to the group and concerned parents alike? I’ve already said it wouldn’t be my choice of protest. It’s certainly a starting point. If it had disrupted the matchday experience of the holier than thou the same folk would moan instead of mockery.

Well, it ain’t difficult. Offer something that isn’t tired repetition?

Constantly post on the forum with apparent in the know knowledge? But, I generally don't back up claims? Think you’ll find I can & do back up everything I say, it’s been remarked on here that I do also. I’ll say it again, don’t think I get any more than others, just better and it’s corroborated before I do post. In a manner that upsets a few, but, plenty & not just those who know me understand the why’s. I make no apology for that. And if anyone has a different opinion you belittle them? Hand’s up, on occasion I have done, when it’s felt I should given the out there takes being replied to. Genuinely have taken stock of that and have refrained from doing so. Its digressing from the topic though. I’ve already said, some are only seeing what they want to see. If it doesn’t conform to how they think you should it’s all bad. Easy to discount from our points of view as everything may not be as it seems. Player attack analogy was poor as it bore no relation to the idea of protest as made out in the statements. Nobody has disagreed with “if you do something wrong then you have to pay the price” of course! There has to be regulation or it’s chaos. What have they done though that’s wrong in this instance that’s required the public statements? Nothing you and a few others keep repeating on here. They are separate issue & not always by who you’re claiming to be carrying them out. Can’t reiterate that enough. Not enjoying some awaydays is the curse of ineffective stewarding and policing in most cases I’m afraid, Reaction of some is again indigenous. Such is the make up of our away support and ground layouts it’s easy to remove yourself from the locale they choose, that’s a nod to the earlier sentiment. Mock you may. Another nod to ineffective stewarding if they were allowed to gather up the back surely? Wouldn’t have been my choice of protest, either stay outside then enter at the agreed time or today could’ve been spent watching from afar giving trade to local business as there was live coverage and absence would receive greater coverage and give the powers that be something to focus on that isn’t as one sided offered to them by someone screaming “Woah! Look at me!”

It’s been said before, obvious some watching what they want to see. Ain’t nobody condoning what you’re terming ‘stupid behaviour’ either and it’s certainly not the argument they’re having with a certain individual if you care to read statements published. Certainly nothing tangible on offer from some usual suspects at anyrate except naysayers and happy clapping is good and those who don’t conform bad.

Aye. OK. You added fuck all to any debate anyway.

Again, unfounded claims. The ‘bois’ involve themselves in stupid behaviour both in and out the stadium is a misnomer - suggests you know little despite seeing it with your own eyes. I explained the reason that it’s myth as it has happened when no disorder of any kind was evident. Hardly a strange slant. Problem been further compounded today we hear with access granted to the away support for a display. Club owners should be taking note.

Your first statement not entirely true, plenty of evidence that they’ve taken accountability. Can say what we want about them but Burrows & Russell were always a sensible go-between. They understood the aims and objectives and were supportive. The second statement is myth. There’s also been plenty of events when not involved as you say that attempts to exert an undue control and influence by the club employee. Fully expect that would be the case moving forward too.

In your opinion? Maybe. I suspect most don’t agree both inside and outside. You don’t really get the jist of meaningful protest for starters. Out of touch and a total lack of understanding.. Theres also a saying ‘for those who understand it needs no explanation, for those who do not, no explanation is possible’. Fan culture has shifted immeasurably even since the inception of the group at the end of the East Stand. The generational gap between those in the East Stand, the naysayers and those in the boardroom is the real worry. Do us a favour and leave out the “Green Brigade wannabe” references. It’s far removed from what’s been going on. I for one am glad political & religous belief is generally left outside the gates.

Another nonsense statement from yourself. You understand who the Well Bois are? It’s not difficult to grasp the demographic on how the end section is made up, largely 3 factions. It’s disingenuous to brand all the same. Yet, you don’t ‘like’. Never once have they sought ‘to value their status more than the club itself’. There are plenty within the fanbase who have reminded them of that and they’ve grown stronger due that actively encouraged by the club. It would be anarchy without. Again, some just don’t want to recognise that.

Now you’ve got the insider gossip jibe off your chest, be as vague as you want. I still wouldn’t be surprised on what you know given your claims to be spurious at best. I’m struggling to see where not standing idly by when innocent Motherwell fans were attacked as embarrassing. Not an endorsement for some behaviours, but, understand when they occur. The attacking of an opposition player is poor analogy, where was it mentioned the club weren’t supporting this group? The actions of 2 club employees have angered a lot more than the group given the offers of information forthcoming. Last few safety officers? I’m sure it’s only 2 they’ve had to deal with including the current incumbent adding his ex-colleague appointment. Wouldn’t expect there to be no problems given the shift in demographic and understandings as times move - there’s been censure when required and common ground found on many points. An appreciation. Some just don’t wish to recognise that. It’s pretty telling that Society board/Club aren’t happy around social media output and not club employee behaviour. It’s evident from their train of thought they’ve lost control and don’t know what to do in the absence of brand management or CEO. Both parties have a buffer, not using it is on them. Do the ego’s that know no bounds have carte blanche? Certainly feels like it. Certainly uneasy bedfellows given the Police Scotland links. Can you tell us how many of these wake up calls on information offered have lead to conviction?

Tapping into a subject you know little of isn’t a surprise. Bigger picture to what happened in Kilmarnock, you don’t have to scratch the surface much to get that information. As for ‘heehaw to do with the club’ Police Scotland made it known it was in co-operation with the club - that authority being economical with the truth? It’s known who offered the name of the fan subject to one such raid who wasn’t even in the country at the time alleged, certainly wasn’t Police Scotland who back tracked. ’wee Stone Island hard men’ is awful chat. Unfortunately, club employee in question has the ear of factions in the Society & Club boards and the same factions are unlikely to rock the boat for self interest. Protest is a last straw, united support can be a strong movement especially if they prove the society to be a busted flush.

Kettlewell wasn’t working with the academy, but, academy graduates.

It’s a Burrows cast off by the looks of it

Fair comment.

Off on a tangent there. Some who have seen both in development teams are just of the opinion that showing belief where the player could make mistakes and learn in the first team environment have been missed. That’s been to Aberdeen’s gain thus far.

Positive noises made at AGM. I find our choice of development could have (may still do) realised transfer income akin to Aberdeen selling the kid Ramsay to Liverpool. The same player who went to pieces in front of the East Stand… twice.

I’m not sure that’s how we’re setting up.

Let it go 😂 He’s in there to do some dirty work tonight which will require legs to nullify one of the opposition. Theres a reason you’re not on the coaching staff.

Smart money on back 3

That’s not unusual, but, it’s being reported wrongly elsewhere.

Weird take, but, there you go. You don’t know me, of that I’m certain. Braidhurst link has me stumped for one. Differ with plenty opinions on here & appreciate others debate. I do tend to discount some opinion on here, generally those with no substance. There’s usual suspects for that. Anyway, it’s a digress from the new manager hunt.