Onthefringes

Is boycotting away games not the de rigueur? Away attendance has dwindled for a long time and for varying reasons. Shit polls and the thinking behind them? Think we're losing focus on the term 'support'...

Eh? 'you're money' 'your money' I know Bob Malcolm used to, but, does James McFadden play the drum? It's the team I go to see... No hiding the fact, poor decision from Hibs with even poorer reasoning behind it. The drum adds to the experience, but, it's not the be all and end all for some. Just feel the Bois creativity can rise above this and do what they do best.

Admirable stance, but, not attending because of a 'ridiculous decision' made by Hibs is a little ridiculous in itself no? They are trying to silence the away support, this big group you speak of, can drive the team on in other ways... Act up, play up, take the piss even?

Agree with your point, although not to piss on your parade, Craig Bryson followed a path from Clyde to starring at Derby via Kilmarnock and Scotland recognition on his release from our club.

Now, just a thought... Given the current clamour to give some of our younger players game time - why then some notable posters on this very thread bemoaned the fact youngsters were introduced as certain favourites and senior members of the squad couldn't cut it under the fabled Jim Gannon? Man was a visionary I tells thee

Understand and can empathise with the viewpoint, my point was made from opinion of parents who's kids are involved at opposing teams rather than those attached to Motherwell and, as I said, I'll reserve judgement till I see for myself. Got the impression under the car salesman that too many kids thought they had made the big time by just being involved at academy level and/or securing places in a flawed elite system. If Scott Leitch is imposing a harder edge, that's his prerogative. Leading to better prepared prospects? I'm all for it and kudos to him. He certainly hasn't offered an attitude not becoming his position anytime I've spoken to him.

Understood. We're on the same wavelength.

Various moves at differing levels will have affected stability, latest changes will again take time to bear fruit. Had heard Stuart Ogilvie has returned to the club in a scouting role, decent pedigree by all accounts and highly rated in those circles, perhaps Noah Dosser can confirm? Worryingly, Scott Leitch doesn't seem to be covering himself in glory given behaviour from leadership positions to players and parents in recent months. All be it, information was offered by parents who were on the receiving end of defeat, I'll reserve judgement till I see the nephew play against Motherwell in the coming weeks.

Ooh! The irony... lost on you.

You can't defend the indefensible. Straw that broke the camels back for me last night.

That's the crux of it...

Iwelumo? Surely you jest?

You can't stop progress If the locals don't roll with it, the club will roll right over them. Additional lighting and access didn't stop the construction at the new Daisy Park facility (probably helped, the Earl Haigs securing a new school as part of the deal mind) and lighting didn't stop Braidhurst being refurbished alongside those Airth Court penthouses either. Interested in the stance of our local council given their ownership of a white elephant facility around a mile or so away...

Game off then

To be fair, was the best lager I tasted over there

Inverurie. For those who travelled alongside... I salute you. Couldn't bite my fingers!

All very admirable, but, until the match day experience is comparable here to that of down South and further beyond, I doubt there will be any change.

Devalues your ticket? Game is at Tannadice no?

That's one and the same thing is it not? Budget exhausted retaining Anier & Ainsworth so disagree SMC was not looking to add to the squad when he did. This has been done to death. It would have been good to freshen up the squad with additions, arguably only Aberdeen, Ross County & Thistle have strengthened, but, we are where we are finance wise and early cup exits further compound that particular problem. Time to cherish what we do have as the annual SMC rebuild is just around the corner...

NO. As it stands, an attempt to cover up poor planning and ineffective policing has seen those who had their names taken outside The Electric Bar post match have the police attend places of residence (one in the company of some choice media ally, heralding a perceived success of smashing alleged football hooliganism) and even places of education to caution those, as the ages confirm, not old enough to gain entry to the bar. Top detective work? Verifying need for overtime match fees? It's nothing short of a sham on the part of Police Scotland. Unsure of the full number, some if not all are disallowed from attending matches at the moment with potential 6 year banning orders threatened. I fully expect the legal representation of those cautioned to have the interim bans reversed as the police argument has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. We pay for their hats though...

I'm not so sure, think Terry Butcher had a knack of getting the best out of some players that fitted his system to which they fail to recreate elsewhere. I'm surprised he couldn't finance a deal at Hibs.

Halcyon days indeed, him and his good lady were regulars in The Dalziel Arms given the friendship with the landlord. Some fine post match evenings were had. Knew his end was near given he told us "I've made my money, not looking for a big payday, but, Mr Boyle and the little fella (Nevin) reckon I'm a yard off the pace, funny that - they're replacing me with a younger Greg Strong on double the money I'm on and a yard slower than me!" It's a funny old game right enough.

Eh? It was a naughty one alright... Had it been vice versa he of Treacle Teeth would be apoplectic!

My theory? May have read differently, but, not the point I was trying to make at all and definitely nothing to suit your penchant for pedantry. My point has been described a little more succinctly by something else above. I'd wager my opinion may be a little more informed given I've spoken to some of the lads involved and knowing and conversing with their parents. Mock outrage? Tsk.

St Johnstone's McDiarmid Park has a lot of third party usage that many others do not, helping to balance their books somewhat against poorer crowd attendances.