steelboy

haven't read this thread for a while. i think this needs some explanation. does this mean the society has less money than it did a few months ago? i'm reading this as instead of taking money from the society in the form of a loan to be repaid the club have exchanged shares for cash even although the shares were gifted for free by boyle.

i heard a rumour he has been in discussions with another club for the last few days about becoming their manager. when you remember the stick that mcdonald, mccormack, pearson and mcghee took for courting other clubs it is very odd that most posters are so happy for mccall to talk to other clubs.

everybody now knows that he is available for £130,000 and he is obviously keen on getting a move. i would rather have a manager who is 100% focused on us.

if it's not sheffield united it will be another team. better to get it over and done with now.

the article isn't about what motherwell achieved as a club it's about what the manager's achieved personally and mcleish has been the most succesful.

regardless of what he achieved with us managing at fir park was the springboard to a hugely succesful managerial career for mcleish. even the managers who were unsuccessful at fir park ended up with very good jobs after they left. black at coventry, malpas at swindon, gannon at peterborugh. i'd wager that apart from kampmann every manager we have had going back to mclean has earned more in their next job which has to make us an attractive prospect to potential managers.

When you see Greg wylde and Jamie ness get EPL moves and Danny Wilson go to Liverpool it does look like players leaving the old firm get better moves than they are due. Liam miller, mark burchill and Simon Donnelly are other examples. In three years time he will have to have fucked up majorly not to get the same deal again at Ibrox or down south.

playing in a defensive minded five man midfield is different from what he'll be expected. Think of hateley looking class in a holding role and a haddy in a pair.

he probably only signed his deal to avoid a peter houston type scenario where he makes himself available and nobody wants him. A small buy out clause was the perfect situation for him. He'll have to quit scotland as well as i'm sure league one teams play during international weeks

at least we didn't sign samson. The jury is out on whether lawson can contribute or if he'll be a fraseresque half arsed signing from a manager looking at the exit.

if he's not playing for us or a team we are competing against it doesn't really matter who he is with. He'll have been offered a great wage and mccall will have done his buddy mccoist another favour filling his favourite player's head with how great it is to play at ibrox. Expect humph and hateley to join him.

we should view this an opportunity rather than a set back. Mccall seemed to be targetting vetrans, we should go for a manager who can get young hungry players to balance out lasley, hammell, lawson and ramsden. It's going to be an exciting summer.

I don't think we have to worry about Hughes or the likes of Calderwood. Our board is a bit more clued up than that.

John Collins seems a bit too much of a designer label ponce for fir park. I think we're better suited to McCall and butcher types who run about in a pair of samba and aren't afraid to get their hands dirty.

Levein is the only who went from a part time club straight to relative success and it was at a club he was a club legend at which was also merrily spending it's way to oblivion (hearts were 20m in debt before vlad took over) Managing Alloa and managing motherwell are two totally different jobs. We wouldn't go for a junior manager but to be honest I don't think there is much difference between part time SFL clubs and junior teams.

Irvine is more like. Get a couple of youths on loan from moyes and we'd be jamming.

i think on the whole they do. there might be a couple of stars at each club making more than the manager but i don't think it's common.

any examples in the past 25 years? sfl play offs to europa league is definitely an unprecedented jump but i'm struggling to think of anyone going from part time football to a top six team without any experience coaching full time players.

it makes sense that the manager will be making the same as the top earning players at most clubs. it would seriously undermine them if they weren't.

unless he can be in two places at once he's not been down watching english games whilst alloa have been playing on saturdays or playing/training on midweek nights. it would be odd if as well as running alloa, scouting their opposition and keeping an eye on potential signings he has also been keeping close tabs on leagues which have no relevance to his current job. it would also be odd if agents were in regular contact with him considering that he has no money to sign full time players.

he has had no reason professionally to study it. alloa are almost exclusively part time scottish players with a few young scottish loans thrown in. considering the amount of effort that is put into managing a part time club i have my doubts whether he was spending much time identifying players he is never going to sign or line up against.

a new manager will have to sign at least 6 players immediately and people want someone who has never managed or coached a full time professional team or been involved with signing professional players? shotts bon accord won the scottish junior cup last season, we might as well go for their manager.

did he not just get a 12 month extension at the end of last season? i know a few boys from burnside who know saunders and they seemed to think that he was on about a grand week which is a decent wage but not enough to make him a top earner.

i'm just giving my opinion. he has played a few great games, some average ones and and a few awful ones. i honestly don't think he has done enough to get clubs down south interested considering his age and injury record, what would scouts have thought on sunday? if he signs for us and repeats the form he has shown already i'll be happy enough as i said before he is still capable of being a match winner on a regular basis in this league.

how long would you wait for him? it's a fair question.