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Hearts v Motherwell 17/02/2024


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Mugabi getting the blame for the first goal is wild. Who exactly was Casey marking?

Almost as ridiculous as Kelly being criticised for not diving for a header he's never getting to "but at least it would have looked better".

Mental. 

 

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As a wee aside to the game, I had a wee look at a couple of other forums just to see if their fans are as bad about ours. Aberdeen's forum makes ours look like a positive love in for the managers and players 🤣 They have spent money in the last few windows, changed managers and have one point more than us. They have one of the best strikers in the league in Miovski and they have multiple posters who reckon everything is pish. There's a section of the support that want Warnock out already.

Looking at the bottom end of the league objectively, three teams have changed manager recently, one has changed again and not one of them has had so much as a 'new manager bounce'. Aberdeen haven't won in five, Hibs have two points from five games, St Johnstone have a point less than us in their last five (that will become two less in their last five today), and Ross Co have a point.

Now I know that this is about us and not them, but in a relegation battle, you need to take account of what your rivals are doing. Realistically, who in the bottom six are going to take anything away from Tyncastle ? We're not going down this year and we're not going to be in a play off spot either. 

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Having watched the highlights back, I need to review my opinions at least a little.

First goal Casey is marking no one and has no idea where Shankland is. He definitely has to shoulder some of the blame. I originally thought it was all on Mugabi, and he at least can see Shankland and should react, but if he goes too quickly and the ball is delivered to the man behind him for a free header he gets it in the neck for that as well.

I get the whole zonal marking thing but unless your communication is a helluva lot better than ours appears to be, Id much rather see a defender man to man on their most dangerous player.

Its a collective shambles.

At the game, second goal, I though SODs was fouled. He clearly isnt. He needs to be stronger there, so that ones on him.

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6 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Having watched the highlights back, I need to review my opinions at least a little.

First goal Casey is marking no one and has no idea where Shankland is. He definitely has to shoulder some of the blame. I originally thought it was all on Mugabi, and he at least can see Shankland and should react, but if he goes too quickly and the ball is delivered to the man behind him for a free header he gets it in the neck for that as well.

I get the whole zonal marking thing but unless your communication is a helluva lot better than ours appears to be, Id much rather see a defender man to man on their most dangerous player.

Its a collective shambles.

At the game, second goal, I though SODs was fouled. He clearly isnt. He needs to be stronger there, so that ones on him.

Agree, Mugabi has been unfairly blamed, probably because he’s the guy closest to Shankland as he scores but he wasn’t marking him at the start and you could see by his reaction that he was pissed off at the time. 
SOD will (or should be) embarrassed at the second as he didn’t see the other hearts player and possibly when he did see him tried not to collide with him and give away a penalty but his fall looks comical- these things happen. 

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For set pieces you get touch tight, block, harry and harass your opponent to stop him getting a free run at goal. To have nobody within a yard of Shankland let alone not actually touching him as the ball is played is just so so bad and basic and avoidable. If you do all that and he beats you in the air then fair doos, but to give him a free unblocked run at goal is a shocker.

 

As for the second goal, O'Donnell is generally quite solid defensively, it's his aimless hoofballs I criticise, but he hasn't covered himself in glory there, needs to be tougher.

 

Bad bad goals to concede. Story of our season.

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Another one of those performances that typifies our season, missed some great chances, and can't defend set pieces.

Annoying that Mandron missed a penalty against Livi, it would be nice to see them totally dead and buried as they now have back-to-back wins going into games against County then us.

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On 2/17/2024 at 7:44 PM, wellsince75 said:

SK mentioned he's sick fed up with the same basic errors. 

STOP playing the same culprits then Stuart.  The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.  Stop the loyalty to those who hurt us regularly. 

Okay, so who do we drop? And who do we replace them with?

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8 minutes ago, David said:

Okay, so who do we drop? And who do we replace them with?

@David  I''d drop Mugabi, S'OD & Butcher.   Sadly Butcher is a yard shorter of pace than when he joined us. 

This would mean stop playing 3 centre halves and go with a back 4 rather than back 5.

Divine, McGinn,  Casey,  Gent

I'd put the extra man in midfield and have both Miller & Halliday when fit in midfield rather than the either or. 


 

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5 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

@David  I''d drop Mugabi, S'OD & Butcher.   Sadly Butcher is a yard shorter of pace than when he joined us. 

This would mean stop playing 3 centre halves and go with a back 4 rather than back 5.

Divine, McGinn,  Casey,  Gent

I'd put the extra man in midfield and have both Miller & Halliday when fit in midfield rather than the either or. 

There's every chance we see a combination similar to that at some point. Devine has only started two games for us so far, and only lasted the full 90 minutes against Hearts. He's seemingly being brought up to match fitness. 

Casey has played one game in almost two months, so he's got to get back to fitness. 

I'm thinking that Kettlewell will mix things up a bit when certain players get to match fitness.

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