weeyin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 I don't think it's anything to do with being a Society, tbh, as the Board runs the club and makes the budgeting and footballing decisions. More to do with the fact that we made poor choices with injury prone players and then had to make do with who was available in January (and we can afford). We did unearth a few good loanees though, like Gent, Spencer and Biereth. Wimmer wanted a squad of about 22 players, and that seems about right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, weeyin said: Did the loan rules allow a recall of Connelly last Jan? If I recall rightly, he was on the bench for the St Johnstone cup game in Perth, but he went back to East Kilbride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Connelly had come back a couple (I think) times where the club exercised the option for an "emergency short term recall" There are going to be changes, for 16-21 year olds with the new cooperation system as well https://news.stv.tv/sport/scottish-fa-introduces-new-cooperation-system-in-shake-up-of-loan-player-rules#:~:text=Under the new “Cooperation System,to increase their game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 6 hours ago, wellfan said: Stama probably falls into that category too, unfortunately. Based on what we've seen this season, it's hard to imagine him making any real impact over the next 2 years. Stama has at least shown he has the talent/ability to score goals at our level. Whether he can stay fit long enough to prove that remains to be seen. I still hold out some hope for him, as he could still be a player that we can develop and sell on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, wellsince75 said: Reads like several players were offered terms. All loanees should have been returned to sender and those not playing every week who're out of contract should have been automatically released. Good point was made earlier re clearing the decks. I don't think we're being strong enough. For me we're far too accommodating to many average Joe's. Concerning that people are watching these guys every week and think we should continue to pay them. I can't help but think it's partly due to being led by a society rather than a single owner. A single owner with their own money being wasted would be less tolerant. Having triggers in contracts that keeps aging and average players on the books together with these negotiations doesn't fill me with confidence that we're a tightly run ship. No such thing as an average Joe in my humble opinion! 😆😆😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 So how many are being kept and who are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 6 hours ago, El Grew said: So how many are being kept and who are they? Aston Oxborough Calum Ward Stephen O’Donnell Liam Gordon Kofi Balmer Paul McGinn Johnny Koutroumbis Ewan Wilson Tom Sparrow Callum Slattery Andy Halliday Lennon Miller Dylan Wells Lukas Fadinger Luca Ross Zach Robinson Apostolos Stamatelopoulos Filip Stuparevic Sam Nicholson Tawanda Maswanhise Olly Whyte Jordan McGhee In Discussions - Dom Thompson, Matty Connelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 39 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Aston Oxborough Calum Ward Stephen O’Donnell Liam Gordon Kofi Balmer Paul McGinn Johnny Koutroumbis Ewan Wilson Tom Sparrow Callum Slattery Andy Halliday Lennon Miller Dylan Wells Lukas Fadinger Luca Ross Zach Robinson Apostolos Stamatelopoulos Filip Stuparevic Sam Nicholson Tawanda Maswanhise Olly Whyte Jordan McGhee In Discussions - Dom Thompson, Matty Connelly While the squad undoubtedly requires strengthening it has to be said that there's good scope there for sell on. If the club (and players) play their cards right Stama, Sparrow, Slats and even Tawanda could potentially bring us in a decent return. Of course that'll depend on contract status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 Squad looks like in position atm looks like GK - Oxborough/Ward RB - Koutrombis, Mcginn, SOD Cb - Gordon, Balmer, Mcghee Lb- Wilson Cm - Miller, Slattery, Halliday, Fadinger, Wells, Sparrow Rw- Nicholson, Ross LW- Maswanhise St- Stam, Robinson, Stuperavic Miller will be sold for a big fee. We then have to shift guys like Nicholson, Stuperavic and one of the Rbs ideally SOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 I'll need convincing McGinn isn't just a recurring injury waiting to happen this season before I considered punting SOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 18 minutes ago, weeyin said: I'll need convincing McGinn isn't just a recurring injury waiting to happen this season before I considered punting SOD. I'd of happily let all 3 Rbs leave I don't think any of them are great. I could of understood keeping Mcginn for the leadership he brings before SOD triggered his extension clause but once that happened I thought we should have let him go. For me Mcginn is a better player and defender than SOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, thewelllfan said: Squad looks like in position atm looks like GK - Oxborough/Ward RB - Koutrombis, Mcginn, SOD Cb - Gordon, Balmer, Mcghee Lb- Wilson Cm - Miller, Slattery, Halliday, Fadinger, Wells Rw- Nicholson, Ross LW- Maswanhise St- Stam, Robinson, Stuperavic Miller will be sold for a big fee. We then have to shift guys like Nicholson, Stuperavic and one of the Rbs ideally SOD. Very lightweight and short of cover, up front, left and right wing backs, and left back, so some serious recruitment is required over the summer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 18 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Very lightweight and short of cover, up front, left and right wing backs, and left back, so some serious recruitment is required over the summer. Which is a good thing, and what we need when a new manager comes in. Room for some new faces to fit their style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 Dependant on what formation we play we need to recruit - A CB - LB/LWB depending on formation - Holding Midfielder - Box to Box Midfielder - LW and RW depending on formation new manager wants to play - A Striker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 57 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Very lightweight and short of cover, up front, left and right wing backs, and left back, so some serious recruitment is required over the summer. Yes very light on the left and up front Allan. On paper we're almost ok for strikers with the exception of a physical target man. However 3 of them are injured long term and have question marks over them in any event. Herr Wimmer had identified our striking department as being in need of an overhaul. Another big central defender is also a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 50 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: Another big central defender is also a must. I'll settle for one than can tackle and stay in position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, weeyin said: I'll settle for one than can tackle and stay in position. I'd agree that lack of positional sense and concentration has been more of a problem recently than lack of physicality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 I see Scott Tiffoney is leaving Dundee. I wouldn’t mind him coming along to fir park. He’s always gave us bother, pacey winger who creates quite a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 42 minutes ago, mio said: I see Scott Tiffoney is leaving Dundee. I wouldn’t mind him coming along to fir park. He’s always gave us bother, pacey winger who creates quite a bit. It appears most of their squad have turned down contracts!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 17 Report Share Posted June 17 10 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: It appears most of their squad have turned down contracts!!!! The thought of working for Steven Pressley not exciting them..? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 Scott Tiffoney is pish. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 28 minutes ago, fizoxy said: Scott Tiffoney is pish. He was OK in a middling, Championship level Partick Thistle side. Which is about as good as he gets. I'm hoping the new man has better ideas than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 13 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Tiffoney off to Killie And so it begins 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 10 hours ago, fizoxy said: Scott Tiffoney is pish. Is he ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 10 hours ago, fizoxy said: Scott Tiffoney is pish. 3 minutes ago, wellon said: Is he ?? He’s probably no better or worse than any other winger we might pick up from within Scotland. That said, most of his career has been spent in the lower leagues. Still, I can’t help but find it funny that Kettlewell has signed an attacking winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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