2025/26 Ins & Outs Discussion

[dennyc]

5 hours ago, mio said:

I just wish once,,,,, just once, that we’d sign a pacey winger, a Chris Humphrey, a Marvin Johnson, I’d even celebrate a Lionel ainsworth. I know to some folk just now it’s old fashioned football and they are not “in style” but for the purpose of entertainment and getting to the bye line and whipping a cross in….. give me wingers all day long.

I agree and there is still hope. A good few teams around the globe ...and top teams at that....often line up 4-3-3. I think it just comes down to whether you have a Manager who wants to win more than he wants to avoid losing. And it appears our new man is fairly attack minded given the right blend of players. The opposite of Kettlewell in other words.

I guess Killie will switch from 4-3-3 to 3-5-1-1 or 4-5-1 this season. Their fans will love it. Hearts on the other hand might be looking at 4-3-3.

 

[Big Stall]

6 hours ago, mio said:

I just wish once,,,,, just once, that we’d sign a pacey winger, a Chris Humphrey, a Marvin Johnson, I’d even celebrate a Lionel ainsworth. I know to some folk just now it’s old fashioned football and they are not “in style” but for the purpose of entertainment and getting to the bye line and whipping a cross in….. give me wingers all day long.

Lionel are better player than the other two IMO

Just a shame he didnt always turn up

Lionels ability coupled with Humphreys attitude would make some footballer

[MelvinBragg]

1 hour ago, Big Stall said:

Lionels ability coupled with Humphreys attitude would make some footballer

That's a player we couldn't afford...

[FirParkCornerExile]

I could have sworn we had Seddon on longer than a one year deal, oh well fuck goes that idea of getting cash.

[stv]

23 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I could have sworn we had Seddon on longer than a one year deal, oh well fuck goes that idea of getting cash.

We never got value for money from him last year at all he was injured more times than not. Hopefully we are moving away from this type and signing generally fit players.

[wunderwell]

13 hours ago, stv said:

We never got value for money from him last year at all he was injured more times than not. Hopefully we are moving away from this type and signing generally fit players.

Yeh we should try and avoid the types like seddon that have had over 200 competitive appearances before joining us. 

[wellgirl]

13 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I could have sworn we had Seddon on longer than a one year deal, oh well fuck goes that idea of getting cash.

We had a year with the option of another which the club chose not to take up 

[Spit_It_Out]

i really dont get this obsession folk have with players that really didnt do much with us that are so easily replaced.

i shall say this i shall remember Seddon for his media shorts than what he served up on the pitch so that itself says it all.

[stv]

25 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

We had a year with the option of another which the club chose not to take up 

Probably because his injury will be a recurring one.

[Spiderpig]

33 minutes ago, wunderwell said:

Yeh we should try and avoid the types like seddon that have had over 200 competitive appearances before joining us. 

Your subtle sarcasm seems wasted mate, given your post got a confused emoji.

[stv]

4 hours ago, Spiderpig said:

Your subtle sarcasm seems wasted mate, given your post got a confused emoji.

Ah subtle sarcasm,  I missed that. I always look for a 😉 emoji before I can understand it

[robsterwood]

Burton fans mixed reports about Elliot Watt. Most think he's skillful passer but lacks pace. Some express view that if he gets fitter and looses weight there is potential good player there. 

 do very well in the right setting.

 

Yes, I'm saying that in my piece as well... wrong time and place... and wrong to have been given the armband. But a talented and committed player who may still do well

[Kmcalpin]

4 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Burton fans mixed reports about Elliot Watt. Most think he's skillful passer but lacks pace. Some express view that if he gets fitter and looses weight there is potential good player there. 

 do very well in the right setting.

 

Yes, I'm saying that in my piece as well... wrong time and place... and wrong to have been given the armband. But a talented and committed player who may still do well

Good luck to him and he'll get my full support. However he didn't seem to set the heather on fire whilst at Perth, in an admittedly poor team and I'm curious as to who signed him for us. He obviously wasn't on a PCA and I doubt if JBA knew anything about him. He could be another Theo Bair of course, who was mismanaged by Simo. St Johnstone fans seem to think he has talent but weren't overly bothered when he left.  

I'm not in any great rush to bring in extra bodies for the sake of it, but we do need another out and out striker before the League Cup group stages. As it is we only have Ap Stam, with 1 other out injured long term.  I wouldn't think it right to give him 90 minutes in all the pre season bounce games given his injury record. If he does get injured what then? No doubt, JBA is aware of this serious short term deficiency in the squad and will possibly have brought in trialists to be assessed whilst in training camp. 

[wellgirl]

According to some fans on pie and bov they felt Watt was dropped too quickly by Simo and he looked decent when he did play 

[robsterwood]

6 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Good luck to him and he'll get my full support. However he didn't seem to set the heather on fire whilst at Perth, in an admittedly poor team and I'm curious as to who signed him for us. He obviously wasn't on a PCA and I doubt if JBA knew anything about him. He could be another Theo Bair of course, who was mismanaged by Simo. St Johnstone fans seem to think he has talent but weren't overly bothered when he left.  

I'm not in any great rush to bring in extra bodies for the sake of it, but we do need another out and out striker before the League Cup group stages. As it is we only have Ap Stam, with 1 other out injured long term.  I wouldn't think it right to give him 90 minutes in all the pre season bounce games given his injury record. If he does get injured what then? No doubt, JBA is aware of this serious short term deficiency in the squad and will possibly have brought in trialists to be assessed whilst in training camp. 

Agree, he's not our  managers signing. Yes will support him too. Sounds improvement on Davor and Paton though hurts out. Was hoping he has contacts in Denmark that could do well.

I'm also concerned that we are recruiting from relegated team and Dundee player from team with worst defensive record in league. Also think O'Donnell should have been given terms and let go.  Agree badly need striker and hope this time, it's one from our manager. 

[Spiderpig]

9 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Good luck to him and he'll get my full support. However he didn't seem to set the heather on fire whilst at Perth, in an admittedly poor team and I'm curious as to who signed him for us. He obviously wasn't on a PCA and I doubt if JBA knew anything about him. He could be another Theo Bair of course, who was mismanaged by Simo. St Johnstone fans seem to think he has talent but weren't overly bothered when he left.  

I'm not in any great rush to bring in extra bodies for the sake of it, but we do need another out and out striker before the League Cup group stages. As it is we only have Ap Stam, with 1 other out injured long term.  I wouldn't think it right to give him 90 minutes in all the pre season bounce games given his injury record. If he does get injured what then? No doubt, JBA is aware of this serious short term deficiency in the squad and will possibly have brought in trialists to be assessed whilst in training camp. 

 The other alleged striker is Robinson who for me is brutal so I think we need another striker in ASAP and move Robinson on when's hes fit

[Kmcalpin]

14 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

 Sounds improvement on Davor and Paton though hurts out. 

Very true, although he sounds more like a replacement, type wise, for Lennon Miller i.e. a deep lying playmaker. .  

[robsterwood]

4 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Very true, although he sounds more like a replacement, type wise, for Lennon Miller i.e. a deep lying playmaker. .  

Yes. Maybe. Manger saying he can play wide also. Sounds like Fadinger flexible midfielder also. 

[weeyin]

I don't have any problem signing players from relegated or nearly relegated teams, We have had plenty of stand-outs over the years in teams that have been hovering above the drop.

You just need to look at the starting line-up for our play-off against Rangers to see a few good examples. Faddy was another one that played in a poor team that would have been relegated if Falkirk had put seats in their stadium. Gary McAllister also played in poor Motherwell sides.

[stv]

58 minutes ago, robsterwood said:

Agree, he's not our  managers signing. 

To be fair the whole team as its stands right now are none of the managers signings.

He will just have to work with it.

 

 

[MJC]

This season has got disaster written all over it. 

An out of the box appointment with zero knowledge of the Scottish game and players signed by a previous manager just doesn’t bode well I fear. 
 

JBA = “Just Bloody Awful”

[wellgirl]

1 minute ago, MJC said:

This season has got disaster written all over it. 

An out of the box appointment with zero knowledge of the Scottish game and players signed by a previous manager just doesn’t bode well I fear. 
 

JBA = “Just Bloody Awful”

Did Wimmer have knowledge of the Scottish game? And surely JBA has played in the UK as a footballer? Wimmer also won games with players he didn't sign, as have other managers 

[wellfan]

8 minutes ago, MJC said:

JBA = “Just Bloody Awful”

Oh dear. This is your best/worst yet. Are you okay? 

[mfc]

The whole needing knowledge of the scottish game is such backwards thinking,imagine we had appointed someone like Pressley,it's guys like that and the kettlewells that will stop any kind of improvement in this country as long as there employed.we play in a league where 10 teams are separated by very little and any manager coming into it can be reasonably successful if they have half a brain in there head.

[Kmcalpin]

1 hour ago, Spiderpig said:

 The other alleged striker is Robinson who for me is brutal so I think we need another striker in ASAP and move Robinson on when's hes fit

Agreed Allan. In any event he's out until late this year I think. He seems to be talented enough and mobile but very lightweight and no goalscorer. A case for mutualling once he's fit and healthy?