Spiderpig Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 2 hours ago, Richie said: Apparently declined €5m for Miller, holding out for €6m/£5m equivalent. Let's hope we don't get too greedy, these big clubs will have no problem waiting till next summer and get to sign him for nothing if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 3 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: Let's hope we don't get too greedy, these big clubs will have no problem waiting till next summer and get to sign him for nothing if required. Yup that is a good point. Totally different figures but I remember us turning down £750k for Mark Reynolds and we ended up selling him for £100k and a 6pk of wotsits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 27 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Yup that is a good point. Totally different figures but I remember us turning down £750k for Mark Reynolds and we ended up selling him for £100k and a 6pk of wotsits! Was it not a 12 pack and a pack of space invaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 35 minutes ago, robsterwood said: Was it not a 12 pack and a pack of space invaders? Feck.. so it was What am I like? 🤣🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Reports saying Torino interested now in Miller. Hope bidding war can bump up price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 I am starting to get the feeling this is going to drag on and on Celtic will come in with a 4 million bid during the last few days of the window and that will be that. It's all well and dandy holding out for the right fee but it's pretty important we sell Lennon this window come January unless he has turned into prime Messi it's fire sale time or even leaving us on a free in the summer. If these clubs wanted him they would have stumped up the fee easy I am starting to think it's the add on's that might be the stumbling block here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Clubs just don't "stump up". You see that at every level where they often go through multiple rounds of negotations with club and then player's management. We just don't notice it as much when it's not our player. Even when a bid hasn't been accepted yet, managers and agents will be in discussions with potential suitors so the personal terms will be ready to sign. Also don't forget, that most countries don't have the insanity of a league cup at the start of pre-season, and so conduct business a little bit later. And finally, of course, MIller gets the final say on where he goes, so even if we accept a bid from a club, it doesn't mean they will get him. Given his history of making good career choices so far, I'd be surprised if his next step isn't also ideal for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 I am shocked more Championship clubs haven't tested the water think he would do well in that league and a move to a Championship does well and we have sell ons it's like printing money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 11 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: I am shocked more Championship clubs haven't tested the water think he would do well in that league and a move to a Championship does well and we have sell ons it's like printing money. I think that Udinese, Torino, Como and whoever else can probably outbid Partick Thistle and St Johnstone. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 32 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: I am shocked more Championship clubs haven't tested the water think he would do well in that league and a move to a Championship does well and we have sell ons it's like printing money. Pretty obvious he wants to go abroad then 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 My preference for Lennon would be 1. Como 2. Bologna 3. Torino 4. Udinese Given that those are the 4 that are allegedly in for him, Im pretty comfortable that he will get a good move and we will get a decent price. I think Como is the best fit as he would be going to an upcoming team and under the stewardship of Fabregas, he would be learning from one of the best. Also, the views! Whats not to like? Bologna would also seem to be a good fit and they have certainly been good for Ferguson. They have European football to look forward to, so I would guess even if he wasnt a first pick there, he will get enough games thru squad rotation. Also the possibility a bigger club comes in for Ferguson creating space. Torino, not sure how they play but clearly a decent standard to finish mid table and having Adams on board, should help the settling in process. Udinese, Im not so keen on. Moreso due to their links with Watford and how mental they look with consrant churnover of managers and players. It might turn out ok, but Id be concerned he would be loaned out and might disappear. Every chance he may not go to any of the above, but wherever he ends up, I just hope it happens soon and we can all move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 I'd read somewhere that Dortmund and Eintracht Frankfurt were apparently interested. The profit that Dortmund seem to make on young British players, that would be an ideal destination from sell on percentage point of view and not a bad move for Miller... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 4 hours ago, Spit_It_Out said: I am starting to get the feeling this is going to drag on and on Celtic will come in with a 4 million bid during the last few days of the window and that will be that. It's all well and dandy holding out for the right fee but it's pretty important we sell Lennon this window come January unless he has turned into prime Messi it's fire sale time or even leaving us on a free in the summer. If these clubs wanted him they would have stumped up the fee easy I am starting to think it's the add on's that might be the stumbling block here. Celtic will probably offer multipack of space invaders, wotsits and some haribos. They offered that for mcgin prior to villa getting him. Press are desperate for ugly sisters to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, robsterwood said: Celtic will probably offer multipack of space invaders, wotsits and some haribos. They offered that for mcgin prior to villa getting him. Press are desperate for ugly sisters to get him. And Hibs got slated by some in our media for holding out for a decent price and laughing off a low Celtic offer. Pretty confident Miller will do the right thing for himself so good luck to him. But at the end of the day it is the fee and add-ons that matter most to MFC. As an aside, I was at ER last night and was very impressed by Midtyjlland. Play a similar style to how we are being asked to play.....with the odd long ball to wide players thrown in. Full backs certainly asked to cover a lot of ground. Lots of possession in midfield and defence. Their players looked comfortable on the ball with no signs of panic when pressed as playing out. Very patient. At times moved the ball very quickly. Guessing that is the way teams play in Denmark. Maybe JBA will unearth some oven ready CBs from his homeland.. Only failing was the lack of goals their domination on the ball produced. But they did score six in their previous League game so maybe Hibs got lucky. Just short of 20k turned up....of which 1000 away fans. If we can find or develop players to play that style then I'm on board. Spoke to a couple of their fans who said it took a good while for them to adapt to that style of play and they had a few horror shows on the way. Hibs actually did well without looking like winning. Certainly far better than they were at the start of last season. Strong midfield and in central defence. Cadden was Cadden. Good pushing forward, not so good defensively. early days but I was impressed by them. Cue Dundee win this weekend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Has Miller been training with us this week? Not really expecting him to play but we can only sit him out for so long if this drags on week after week, so I’d be tempted to start using him till something concrete happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan90 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, texanwellfan said: Has Miller been training with us this week? Not really expecting him to play but we can only sit him out for so long if this drags on week after week, so I’d be tempted to start using him till something concrete happens. I was down briefly yesterday and he was there training with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, texanwellfan said: Has Miller been training with us this week? Not really expecting him to play but we can only sit him out for so long if this drags on week after week, so I’d be tempted to start using him till something concrete happens. Good potential for a late cameo tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, Mad Dog said: I think that Udinese, Torino, Como and whoever else can probably outbid Partick Thistle and St Johnstone. Nice to see a decent joke on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faddyisgod Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 I’m in Bologna just now and reading the local media it appears to be a done deal. They are quoting €5 million (euro remember not pounds) but with added extras including a sell on clause for Motherwell - doesn’t mention the % but does say a further fee will be due if hit certain number of Serie A appearances before the 26-27 campaign. Torino would definitely be the preferred option if you asked my opinion (likely to play as a 10 there and feed some excellent strikers) - more suited clubs for him would be a Fiorentina or Verona looking at their squads but doesn’t appear to be working out that way. Much as I hate to say it I could see him playing as an 8 at Lazio but may be tougher to hit the 30-40 games a season he would expect After the success of McTominay, Gilmour, Ferguson, Adams, Doig and Henderson previously Italian teams are keen on “Fortissimo” Scottish players. As someone who lives in the country and follows the league closely I would be very surprised if Miller isn’t also living here soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 7 minutes ago, Faddyisgod said: I’m in Bologna just now and reading the local media it appears to be a done deal. They are quoting €5 million (euro remember not pounds) but with added extras including a sell on clause for Motherwell - doesn’t mention the % but does say a further fee will be due if hit certain number of Serie A appearances before the 26-27 campaign. Torino would definitely be the preferred option if you asked my opinion (likely to play as a 10 there and feed some excellent strikers) - more suited clubs for him would be a Fiorentina or Verona looking at their squads but doesn’t appear to be working out that way. Much as I hate to say it I could see him playing as an 8 at Lazio but may be tougher to hit the 30-40 games a season he would expect After the success of McTominay, Gilmour, Ferguson, Adams, Doig and Henderson previously Italian teams are keen on “Fortissimo” Scottish players. As someone who lives in the country and follows the league closely I would be very surprised if Miller isn’t also living here soon. Any news of a possible Ferguson transfer? That would free up the 6 role, no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, wunderwell said: Nice to see a decent joke on here. Ahem.....excuse me? 🤣🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Just now, grizzlyg said: Ahem.....excuse me? 🤣🤣 I saw that shade 🤣😂🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Faddyisgod said: I’m in Bologna just now and reading the local media it appears to be a done deal. They are quoting €5 million (euro remember not pounds) but with added extras including a sell on clause for Motherwell - doesn’t mention the % but does say a further fee will be due if hit certain number of Serie A appearances before the 26-27 campaign. Torino would definitely be the preferred option if you asked my opinion (likely to play as a 10 there and feed some excellent strikers) - more suited clubs for him would be a Fiorentina or Verona looking at their squads but doesn’t appear to be working out that way. Much as I hate to say it I could see him playing as an 8 at Lazio but may be tougher to hit the 30-40 games a season he would expect After the success of McTominay, Gilmour, Ferguson, Adams, Doig and Henderson previously Italian teams are keen on “Fortissimo” Scottish players. As someone who lives in the country and follows the league closely I would be very surprised if Miller isn’t also living here soon. 5 mill euros is way below what we should be accepting. Looking at markets and he's in top percent of young players in performance. Top 50 worldwide under 21s in his position and footballs about stats Vaffanculo to Bologna if they are that cheap. Edited August 1 by robsterwood Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, robsterwood said: 5 mill euros is way below what we should be accepting. Looking at markets and he's in top percent of young players in performance. Top 50 worldwide under 21s in his position and footballs about stats Vaffanculo to Bologna if they are that cheap. You're right but it's the add ons that are also important. Four million quid plus add ons. Id take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, wellgirl said: You're right but it's the add ons that are also important. Four million quid plus add ons. Id take it Not for me when there's a lot of clubs interested. If add ins are 50 percent sell on them maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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