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15 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

England. Club haven't said more than that 

To 'pursue options' it said.  Sure he did the same a couple of years ago and pitched back up early in the season (having missed pre season training). 

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Heading off down south because someone asked him to mark Norway?

Good luck to the man. Liked his attitude, energy and enthusiasm, but not a fan of his actual defensive abilities.

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3 hours ago, weeyin said:

Heading off down south because someone asked him to mark Norway?

Good luck to the man. Liked his attitude, energy and enthusiasm, but not a fan of his actual defensive abilities.

agree with that - better going forward than he was in defence.  

What I really struggle with is how many players we offered further contracts to.  Do the club really think he'd be part of the solution.   I know there were clauses in likes of SODs contact etc but honestly we need to get our act together in this area. 

As a club we hand out too many contracts to players we should be moving on. 

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I would have preferred casey to stay over mcginn and odonnell but if he did it would have been an even less of a chance to improve our poor defence but now we have a space in the team and a wage to hopefully bring in someone that can make us better.good luck to dan wherever he ends up.

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I like Casey. He's flawed, but definitely a good defender at our level that would get a game for most teams in our league. 

Having a defender that can chip in with some goals, and a player with some personality is always nice. 

On the other hand, our defense overall is poor, so I am not going to be too fussed about anyone leaving it. Not every goal is a defenders fault, but we do have a group of error prone defenders, and not enough going forward to gloss over that. 

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25 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

What I really struggle with is how many players we offered further contracts to. I know there were clauses in likes of SODs contact etc but honestly we need to get our act together in this area. As a club we hand out too many contracts to players we should be moving on. 

Yep. As with Casey, and given they weren't detailed in the GTF list, I can only assume we've also offered contracts to Paton, Davor, Moses, Thompson and Seddon. Of that lot, Seddon is the only one worthy of an offer. 

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19 minutes ago, wellfan said:

Yep. As with Casey, and given they weren't detailed in the GTF list, I can only assume we've also offered contracts to Paton, Davor, Moses, Thompson and Seddon. Of that lot, Seddon is the only one worthy of an offer. 

Completely agree with you .
 

It’s bonkers that we knew the squad was too large and didn’t have enough quality yet could end up with +20 of the same squad  

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2 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

Completely agree with you .
 

It’s bonkers that we knew the squad was too large and didn’t have enough quality yet could end up with +20 of the same squad  

We'll only have ourselves to blame if we go into next season with the majority of the same squad and wonder why we're still crappy. 

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28 minutes ago, wellfan said:

We'll only have ourselves to blame if we go into next season with the majority of the same squad and wonder why we're still crappy. 

That's true, but the new manager's brief should also include "mutualling" any contracts for players he doesn't want.

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15 minutes ago, wellgirl said:

We have an option on Seddon apparently. 

when Seddon signed last year it mentioned the option of an extension. Just wasn't clear who's option (the player or the club) .    He's been decent in the games he's played. 

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1 hour ago, Big Wispy Flossy said:

Huddersfield apparently. Been a good servant, not without his faults, but one of our better centre half’s in recent times

Nowhere near the quality of Aldred , Hartley or big hutch. The fact that so many are sorry to see him go says more about the quality of our defenders in the last two or three years than anything else. He won't last long in England.

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7 minutes ago, well_said said:

Seddon is a much better footballer than any of our other defenders , it's just a pity he's made of chocolate.

How's he made of chocolate?

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Sneddon was decent in his limited appearances but I wouldn't be fussed either way if he stays or goes,I hope we don't see any of the rest return as it would be a backwards move and will limit any progress that were able to make.

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Seddon played 200+ games in his career, including 30 odd in the season before joining us, so I'm not sure we can call him injury prone. Definitely not in the mould of Sam Nicholson, who is a genuine perma crock. Seddon had 2 injuries with us, and missed games at the start of the season when wilson kept his place. The big injury he had last season was the ankle one that put him out for months,  that i think happened in a game. It would come down to how hard those are to recover from long term. 

I like him, and he's a better footballer than the other options there, he also gives us a good fdw options on the left of defence, whether LB, LWB, or LCB, so I'd like to keep him, especially since decent left bqcks dont grow on trees, but he hasn't played enough for me to be turning up at FP with a pitch fork if he wasn't extended. 

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1 hour ago, well_said said:

Check his injury record since he joined.

Why only since he joined MFC and not throughout his career for a fuller idea?

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I liked Casey. Good defender at our level and wore his heart on his sleeve which always endears a player to fans. But he isnt worth breaking the bank for so if he thinks he can get a better deal elsewhere good luck to him. 

Seddon Id keep for all the reasons above.

Thompson - punt

Davor - punt

Paton - punt

Moses - if he has been offered peanuts and is happy to be our 80th minute chaos maker Id keep. Just because players like that arent easy to come by.

Id also be looking to move on Nicholson, Robinson and Stuparevic as soon as they are fit, so wouldnt be including them in our squad numbers as I dont expect them to contribute.

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38 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Id also be looking to move on Nicholson, Robinson and Stuparevic as soon as they are fit, so wouldnt be including them in our squad numbers as I dont expect them to contribute.

Brutal. I like it. 

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1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Id also be looking to move on Nicholson, Robinson and Stuparevic as soon as they are fit, so wouldnt be including them in our squad numbers as I dont expect them to contribute.

We might be able to loan them out if they're fit in time for the windows and don't figure into our plans. But it's very unlikely that we're going to mutual them. Even if we wanted to, I don't know why any of them would give up any of their contract when they face uncertainty after a lengthy injury. 

At worst they'll not get back to full fitness before their contract ends, and leqve next summer, and at best a couple of them will be fit by January and save us from loaning in some children as deadline panic buys.  So I doubt the new manager will be hanging any hopes on them either way. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Mad Dog said:

Why only since he joined MFC and not throughout his career for a fuller idea?

I only concern myself with motherwell fc , but I'll let you check his history and report back.

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