Throughthelaces Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 I think we just didn't defend well today thought we had some really encouraging spells where we had the ball and thought at points we looked threatening. Defensively we were a shambles. I am however willing to give benefit of the doubt it's the 3rd game played under new manager and the 3rd system they've played this year. There will be growing pains but if we're as poor defensively on Tuesday on an actual pitch I'll be very concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 I wasn't at the game today today and so won't comment on specifics but the performance and result was a big let down. Whatever way you look at it, we should be beating a middling League 2 side. The League Cup is one of only 2 trophies that we have a realistic, if outside, chance of winning and we treat it like a pre season bounce game. I get the heat and the plastic pitch but it was exactly the same for Clyde, who couldn't even field a full bench. In terms of condition of the pitch, there should be rules in place to ensure a safe playable surface eg watering, but thats another issue. Our pre season was difficult for several reasons, but an extra bounce game would not have gone amiss. What happened to the 2nd game in the Netherlands which didn't take place? The players, of course are still adapting a new system. The starting line up was nothing short of weird and who knows the factors that lay behind that. Fitness obviously played a part. The game did highlight deficiencies in the squad, most of which we already knew about i.e. a very fragile defence. It will clearly help if we can ship out a few underperfomers, if only on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I think the line up was JBA making the best of what he has given that Miller took a knock at the Carlisle game and McGhee is apparently injured I get that, but why play a right sided back on the left side and leave 2 left sided backs on the bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Kmcalpin said: I get that, but why play a right sided back on the left side and leave 2 left sided backs on the bench? Early season fitness levels possibly. Or maybe just wanted to try something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_said Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 48 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I think the line up was JBA making the best of what he has given that Miller took a knock at the Carlisle game and McGhee is apparently injured Why did he have a right back at left back when he had two left backs on the bench .that doesn't seem to be making the best of what's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderwell Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 20 minutes ago, wellgirl said: You'd need to ask him. I have no idea. I noticed your facebook comment - in response to another poster. The initial comment being "If it's anything other than sorry that was pish he needs to have a real think" Surely by now we know that what a manager has to say - he can't respond like a fan. As a manager of players he will choose his words wisely - and we hope he takes away what we all see. Managers who chuck their players under a bus don't last long. Good managers move the players who are not required out in the longer term and bring in others to take their place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Was never going to be a classic and at least we got a bonus point. To any Bois that were there we won on pens as obviously you would't know as you were more interested playing with a football than watching also game. Also SOD wasn't great but the abuse that guy takes is embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope Springs Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 4 hours ago, weeyin said: Pittodrie or beat Dundee Utd in front of a huge crowd There were a few factors that mitigated today’s performance - the heat, the appalling pitch that acted as a great leveller, and a referee who was very lenient towards cynical time wasting by Clyde - but in my opinion a good number of our fans had a poorer game than Stephen O’Donnell. Many of the things they accuse home of - losing concentration being the most obvious - they displayed throughout the ninety minutes, playing volleyball, lighting flares and directing unkind and unnecessary comments towards the team. Not that they can’t criticise a poor performance but singling out someone who was far from the worst, who was not directly responsible for either of the goals we conceded and who always shows willing and makes himself available is not how I would characterise supporting your team. In a game we didn’t lose. We should be better than this considering we are a community club, fan owned and team oriented. We will need to be better than this if we start this nonsense this early in the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Exactly what I expected. Shite football on a shite park in a shite stadium only made worse by getting burnt alive with a 30mins wait in the kiosk queue and the usual wee fannies costing the club another fine by letting off flares amongst other things. On the positive side we were probably always going to have to beat Morton in the last game to qualify regardless of the result today, assuming we don't massively **** things up against the 2 minnows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Not hugely surprised at how things panned out . manager has been in for a few weeks Still got several players to sign . Fitness and sharpness is that of pre season - because it is preseason . several plays getting to know one another . new formation, new ways of playing . All of this takes time . Protected a few players by not risking them on that awful pitch . Think it was mcgarrys article a couple of weeks ago the spelled out the need for patience . He was spot on , it’s going to take time to settle in after this significant overhaul of players , manager, change in approach . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 8 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Was never going to be a classic and at least we got a bonus point. To any Bois that were there we won on pens as obviously you would't know as you were more interested playing with a football than watching also game. Also SOD wasn't great but the abuse that guy takes is embarrassing I've never really rated sod but it's not nice to see the guy getting it tight week In week out. The fans aren't not known for their patience, here's hoping new guy will stick to his guns re style of play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 8 hours ago, Hope Springs said: There were a few factors that mitigated today’s performance - the heat, the appalling pitch that acted as a great leveller, and a referee who was very lenient towards cynical time wasting by Clyde - but in my opinion a good number of our fans had a poorer game than Stephen O’Donnell. Many of the things they accuse home of - losing concentration being the most obvious - they displayed throughout the ninety minutes, playing volleyball, lighting flares and directing unkind and unnecessary comments towards the team. Not that they can’t criticise a poor performance but singling out someone who was far from the worst, who was not directly responsible for either of the goals we conceded and who always shows willing and makes himself available is not how I would characterise supporting your team. In a game we didn’t lose. We should be better than this considering we are a community club, fan owned and team oriented. We will need to be better than this if we start this nonsense this early in the season. All these reasonable comments on here, so where do all the bunkernuts come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 27 minutes ago, wellon said: I've never really rated sod but it's not nice to see the guy getting it tight week In week out. The fans aren't not known for their patience, here's hoping new guy will stick to his guns re style of play. SOD didn't have a good game but some of the shouts aimed at him are just ridiculous. The guy wears the jersey like every other player and tries his best. With a fully fit squad I wouldn't have him in starting xi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 2 hours ago, grizzlyg said: SOD didn't have a good game but some of the shouts aimed at him are just ridiculous. The guy wears the jersey like every other player and tries his best. With a fully fit squad I wouldn't have him in starting xi Completely agree - you'd think SOD was some form of evil who some how has convinced several managers to play him in a whole bunch of positions simply to sabotage and ensure we lose. He's a local guy who like us all has flaws and clearly gives his best. It's about time the modern game exits anyone from the crowd for being abusive . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Like others, I think SOD's best days are definitely behind him and he's back up, at best. However he's an honest professional and a good ambassador for the club and doesn't deserve the type of abuse he received yesterday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 1 hour ago, wellsince75 said: Completely agree - you'd think SOD was some form of evil who some how has convinced several managers to play him in a whole bunch of positions simply to sabotage and ensure we lose. He's a local guy who like us all has flaws and clearly gives his best. It's an about time the modern game exits anyone from the crowd for being abusive . As I've already mentioned there are some crackers in the support who seem to come to the fore in away games but if we Start lobbing people out for being " abusive" , it's going to be a select few left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 20 minutes ago, wellon said: As I've already mentioned there are some crackers in the support who seem to come to the fore in away games but if we Start lobbing people out for being " abusive" , it's going to be a select few left. Chucking people out will show everyone else where the line is and remind them not to cross it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 3 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: Chucking people out will show everyone else where the line is and remind them not to cross it. This is where I'm at. There's a difference of being frustrated v's downright abusive. Appreciate not in the same ballpark but was chatting to my friend who supports York City - Salford team walked off the part following racial abuse last week and the match was abandoned. Someone has since been arrested. The more the game has a hard line about behaviour the better behaved people are likely to become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 4 minutes ago, wellsince75 said: This is where I'm at. There's a difference of being frustrated v's downright abusive. Appreciate not in the same ballpark but was chatting to my friend who supports York City - Salford team walked off the part following racial abuse last week and the match was abandoned. Someone has since been arrested. The more the game has a hard line about behaviour the better behaved people are likely to become. I actually stopped going to away games last season because of all the shit happening and I didn't see anything yesterday that would make me want to change my mind. We have some right cretins in our support and I'm more and more starting to see why Bob Park gave up the ghost and walked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said: Like others, I think SOD's best days are definitely behind him and he's back up, at best. However he's an honest professional and a good ambassador for the club and doesn't deserve the type of abuse he received yesterday. I agree completely. The stuff he gets is embarrassing. He’s been a target from day 1 of a certain element of our fans. Even when he was playing well. In 50yrs of going to games I’ve seen it all before unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Can't say I heard any abuse directed at SOD from where I was sitting but I would be in favour of ejecting people if the abuse is overstepping the mark There is a difference between giving stick and being disappointed with a performance, and being downright abusive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 4 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said: Can't say I heard any abuse directed at SOD from where I was sitting but I would be in favour of ejecting people if the abuse is overstepping the mark There is a difference between giving stick and being disappointed with a performance, and being downright abusive You must have been at opposite side of stand from me where we had the pleasure of an older guy calling him a useless c**t, embarrassing. I don't do away games because I can't be bothered with the antics of some elements and sadly yesterday just proved why I won't be going to another away game. Maybe I am just getting old but it took away a lot of the enjoyment from yesterday. No doubt though the media team will perceive it differently. Again that's just my opinion COYW 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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santheman Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 26 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: You must have been at opposite side of stand from me where we had the pleasure of an older guy calling him a useless c**t, embarrassing. I don't do away games because I can't be bothered with the antics of some elements and sadly yesterday just proved why I won't be going to another away game. Maybe I am just getting old but it took away a lot of the enjoyment from yesterday. No doubt though the media team will perceive it differently. Again that's just my opinion COYW See one of them must be on here dishing out laughing emojis because we dare criticise them. Shows you their level of intelligence and entitlement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Bit embarrassing all round yesterday - from the team performance (which can at least be mitigated somewhat with the state of the pitch and the heat), to the cretiness behaviour of the 2 guys in the rear of stand having a punch up, to the young teams antics. Certainly not a day to be proud off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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