FirParkCornerExile Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 34 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: Im fully aware of why its done, it doesnt make it any less diagraceful. To put the prices up for each stand in order to cash in on the toxic atmosphere that the Old Firm bring along to Fir Park whilst also putting your own fans off is poor. Its always been that way since Cat A and B pricing was brought in but to go from £26 to £34 is getting a bit beyond the average fan, as well as putting up concession pricing which is a concession for a reason from £19 to £26 isn't great. To watch 4 old firm games a season on their own now comes out at £136 and thats before any refreshments are bought. Im not saying its not good business as the Old Firm fans will pay but it will stop a lot of our own fans coming, especially when its on the tv. But realistically do they have an option? the rules clearly tell them how they can charge. How many Motherwell fans would scream blue murder if we charge OF fans £20 when they charge us £35 so we can charge Motherwell fans £20. Motherwell are caught in a difficult place, doing so would be a big financial hit. Reducing the ticket prices for 4800 fans in the McLean stand would not be offset by the increase in the home support. We'd be lucky to put another 500 Motherwell fans on the gate when its live on TV. Please don't anyone think I'm defending outrageous pricing , I'm not but I have a degree of sympathy with the club who are on the horns of a financial dilemma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 16 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said: But realistically do they have an option? the rules clearly tell them how they can charge. How many Motherwell fans would scream blue murder if we charge OF fans £20 when they charge us £35 so we can charge Motherwell fans £20. Motherwell are caught in a difficult place, doing so would be a big financial hit. Reducing the ticket prices for 4800 fans in the McLean stand would not be offset by the increase in the home support. We'd be lucky to put another 500 Motherwell fans on the gate when its live on TV. Please don't anyone think I'm defending outrageous pricing , I'm not but I have a degree of sympathy with the club who are on the horns of a financial dilemma. Easy solution. Invest in the club as well as saving money and buy a season ticket. 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirParkCornerExile Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 10 minutes ago, stv said: Easy solution. Invest in the club as well as saving money and buy a season ticket. 👏 That is an answer but we do have to recognise floating attendees will always be around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Just had a look at the Livingston fc website - they split their prices into three categories - it's 30 pounds for a Livi fan to watch Celtic or Rangers. 28 for Hearts Hibs and Aberdeen. 26 for the rest with concessions and other prices dropping as well depending on who they are playing. I actually think that's quite an interesting way to do it - and there's maybe scope for us to do something similar going forward. We put our prices up this season after a couple of years of freezes so obviously fans who pay at the gate are taking a bigger hit and as has already been said - obviously for some fans they'll just make the decision to watch the game on tv rather than pay 34 quid at the gate. The club said they had to put prices up this season because of a 20 per cent rise in match day costs It's the fan who wants to pay as they go that takes the biggest hit -I certainly wouldn't be able to go if I didn't have a season ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewarkfanclub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Re the pricing debate. Most of our fans are season ticket holders. Attendances show that. Any walk ups will find space in the Hunter no problem. Thats what I did, when I didnt have a season ticket. I never had an issue getting in. Given the financial argument, Im surprised we are even discussing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Re the pricing debate. Most of our fans are season ticket holders. Attendances show that. Any walk ups will find space in the Hunter no problem. Thats what I did, when I didnt have a season ticket. I never had an issue getting in. Given the financial argument, Im surprised we are even discussing this. I don't think people were discussing space. They were discussing the price of category A games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 24 minutes ago, wellgirl said: I don't think people were discussing space. They were discussing the price of category A games. I know what they were discussing. But why does anyone really care? Most of our fans are season ticket holdlers and those that arent can easily be accomodated in the Hunter where the prices are cheaper (and imho the view is better). The big 2 have been overcharging our fans for years to sit in shite seats in the worst areas of their stadia. I get that 2 wrongs dont make a right, but Id be really annoyed if they got a better deal at Fir Park than we do over there. Given its the big 2 that pretty much set the prices, then Im more than happy with the clubs position on this. Especially as we dont roll over rand give them tickets elsewhere in the stadium anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I know what they were discussing. But why does anyone really care? Most of our fans are season ticket holdlers and those that arent can easily be accomodated in the Hunter where the prices are cheaper (and imho the view is better). The big 2 have been overcharging our fans for years to sit in shite seats in the worst areas of their stadia. I get that 2 wrongs dont make a right, but Id be really annoyed if they got a better deal at Fir Park than we do over there. Given its the big 2 that pretty much set the prices, then Im more than happy with the clubs position on this. Especially as we dont roll over rand give them tickets elsewhere in the stadium anymore. Sorry, I misread your post. I actually don't know what we get charged to be at Ibrox - I don't go, assume it's 35 quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 5 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Sorry, I misread your post. I actually don't know what we get charged to be at Ibrox - I don't go, assume it's 35 quid. They both charge us the maximum permitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 3 hours ago, stv said: Easy solution. Invest in the club as well as saving money and buy a season ticket. 👏 If only it were that easy with regards getting to games. On the "invest in the club" comment, I talked my wife into investing £7.5k into advertising her business at the ground (3 years now) so we do our bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 39 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I know what they were discussing. But why does anyone really care? Most of our fans are season ticket holdlers and those that arent can easily be accomodated in the Hunter where the prices are cheaper (and imho the view is better). The big 2 have been overcharging our fans for years to sit in shite seats in the worst areas of their stadia. I get that 2 wrongs dont make a right, but Id be really annoyed if they got a better deal at Fir Park than we do over there. Given its the big 2 that pretty much set the prices, then Im more than happy with the clubs position on this. Especially as we dont roll over rand give them tickets elsewhere in the stadium anymore. I don't like the Hunter stand as imho it isn't as good a view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 6 minutes ago, Mccus28 said: If only it were that easy with regards getting to games. On the "invest in the club" comment, I talked my wife into investing £7.5k into advertising her business at the ground (3 years now) so we do our bit. I hope it's been successful for you. That's more than doing your bit. With regards to the season ticket issue I agree that it's the best way re affordability but sometimes work gets in the way for folk. I shared one with a family member a couple of seasons ago because they had to work one in every three Saturdays and they didn't think it was worth buying one for themselves. I was happy enough getting to some games over the season and it worked out ok - because at that point I would have struggled to afford one for myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 4 hours ago, Spiderpig said: Its not that long ago that the club did not care about the home fans and gave the ugly sisters the South and Cooper stands as well as both wings of the POD any time they were in town, moving many ST holders in the process. The only thing the club can do given that they are bound by league rules etc is to do away with match categories and charge all fans home and away the same price, for all stands apart from the Hunter, I think its currently £26 for the POD. But it will never happen as the financial cost to the club would be prohibitive, 5000 away fans in thd South stand at £8 is £40k, 4 times a year is £160k that could finance 1 or 2 players wage.. Maybe we should go back to giving them extra stands and charge everyone £26, would stop a couple of folk complaining about £36 three games a season and I’m sure we’d make more cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said: Maybe we should go back to giving them extra stands and charge everyone £26, would stop a couple of folk complaining about £36 three games a season and I’m sure we’d make more cash Way to condescend your fellow fan just because they have a different view to you Go you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, Mccus28 said: I don't like the Hunter stand as imho it isn't as good a view Each to their own. I dont like the Cooper as I dont think you get a great view of the away goal (and the slope used to annoy me). The bottom line is that the whole thing starts with the big 2 and their gate prices. If that doesnt happen, we dont raise ours for Cat A games and everyone is happy. Of course we could go back to sharing gate money for all fixtures we are involved in like the olden days before the financial gulf made it impossible for a provincial club to compete. But thats a hold different debate and I wont be holding my breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 31 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: Of course we could go back to sharing gate money for all fixtures we are involved in like the olden days before the financial gulf made it impossible for a provincial club to compete. But thats a hold different debate and I wont be holding my breath! Next thing you'll be saying we should split the prize money and TV revenue equally! That might lead to stronger competition. Madness!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Someone mentioned further up that instead of incentivising 'smaller' games with the bring a mate for a 5er type idea...could we not do that to circumvent the rules of having to charge the same price to home and away fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 24 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Someone mentioned further up that instead of incentivising 'smaller' games with the bring a mate for a 5er type idea...could we not do that to circumvent the rules of having to charge the same price to home and away fans? I believe the bring a mate for a fiver is something that happens once a season if you have a season ticket. The club tend to use it later in the season - last few seasons it's been when we've needed support to get the team to safety but don't see any reason why it couldn't be used at a Celtic or Rangers game. I personally think they should do that more often -the club won't lose money out of an initiative like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 The game is being shown live in the USA CBS Sports network which I get via Fubo. saves me having to cast it onto the Tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 I'm assuming all this talk of pricing is because no one wants to actually talk about what's going to happen on the park? Having watched them the other night, they look as though they're going to give up chances. Sadly like Panathinaikos, we look likely to miss a fair percentage of them. I expect it to be the same team that started against Morton and Hertha. Which would be a pretty attacking selection for this game but the manager doesn't strike me as ready to compromise yet.. I have a funny feeling it'll be 3-2 tomorrow. Which way, I have no clue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistandshout1983 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Another Rangers fan I work with today suggested Rangers might have the advantage , because Motherwell haven't been playing competitive games . Goes back to the point I made last week how your average old firm fan completely misses the premier sports cup groups I didn't correct him as he is always complimentary to Motherwell however , and he is anticipating a very close game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 6 hours ago, Mccus28 said: If only it were that easy with regards getting to games. On the "invest in the club" comment, I talked my wife into investing £7.5k into advertising her business at the ground (3 years now) so we do our bit. Wow, what a guy. I can’t even talk my missus into paying for the Chinese take away on a Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 25 minutes ago, stv said: Wow, what a guy. I can’t even talk my missus into paying for the Chinese take away on a Friday night. Absolute legend. I'm sure that's legit grounds for divorce... Someone refusing to pay for a takeaway I thought I was doing good drinking my bodyweight in wine at the Cooper... Nope! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFCL84 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 14 hours ago, twistandshout1983 said: Another excellent interview from Jens This I the first time I've been a bit disappointed by a JBA interview. I thought that he seemed to be managing expectations and setting us up to expect to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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