fizoxy Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago There's nothing about the formation that causes Ward to drop the ball at the feet of an opposition player unchallenged. We had the game won and he fucked it. Last week was pretty much the same, the tactics and lineup had us ahead in the latter stages of the game and the goalie couldn't hold on to the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago Think it says it all that teams are happy to escape with a draw against us. We can only improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 10 games unbeaten. However we need a winning streak! Hopefully JBA can get us there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, couttsy said: My god last week was disappointing but today really does feel like a defeat As most have said, we were completely dominant today and should have had the game out of sight before Ward’s absolute calamity. Was Watt injured? If not why the hell was he taken off! How did Stama play the whole game? A lot to like about us but we have to put games to bed when we’re so far on top. Suppose the positive is that we completely outplayed a team with a similar budget. Much much better than Killie. 100% Lost our deep-lying, controlling pivot when Watt went off. I was expecting Maswanhise, Ap Stam and Said off. Still, the single reason we didn't win was horrific goalkeeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, MJC said: Because we have failed to register a win yet. Despite dominating a second half against Rangers, showing some nice play at St.Mirren and then being 3-0 up with 20 minutes to go at Tynecastle and failing to win and today against a Killie side we had on the ropes after turning around a deficit we contrive to gift them a goal to sneak away with a point. Even the game we did win against Championship St.Johnstone we needed extra time to do it. I’m not saying we have had a bad start to the season, the opposite if anything, but we have missed some big opportunities so far and they could well come back to hurt us. Im sure it will come good soon - pretty sure we would have won if Slats had been playing (half joking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, wellgirl said: Im sure it will come good soon - pretty sure we would have won if Slats had been playing (half joking) We need to hope so, as we have a difficult run of fixtures after the international break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Verheul Posted 10 hours ago Report Share Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, couttsy said: My god last week was disappointing but today really does feel like a defeat As most have said, we were completely dominant today and should have had the game out of sight before Ward’s absolute calamity. Was Watt injured? If not why the hell was he taken off! How did Stama play the whole game? A lot to like about us but we have to put games to bed when we’re so far on top. Suppose the positive is that we completely outplayed a team with a similar budget. Much much better than Killie. I can't say for certain if Watt was injured but he definitely hurt himself making a block/tackle (I can't remember which) about 5mins before getting came off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, MJC said: We need to hope so, as we have a difficult run of fixtures after the international break. Yes cos the ones we have just had were piss easy.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, MJC said: We need to hope so, as we have a difficult run of fixtures after the international break. Let them worry about us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago So purism versus pragmatism ended all even. And who can say but maybe there was some karmic element to Ward's bout of dropsy but who am I to speculate on the musings of the universe.... Actually a good game. Enjoyed it. Think we have one of better groups we've had for a while. Longelo, Watt, Fadinger, Just, Maswanhise are all better than average and we have Cook-Charles and Hendry to come in and possibly be assets. Of course there are other areas we're not so good and a keeper and a penalty box striker are required. Some slick play although lacking a bit in terms of actual real chances. Don't think the Killie keeper had too many real saves to make but good to watch nonetheless. I'd actually like to highlight Elijah Just, though he had a great match. The whole points v performance thing. Well obviously we need to start winning at some point but as I always say you can only start judging a manager until we've played a full round of matches. I'm enjoying watching it but whether it's actually effective is still open to question but you have to give the experiment time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Andy H said: Yes cos the ones we have just had were piss easy.... On paper no, but as I said last week, context is everything with draws. And if you are 3-0 up with twenty minutes to go one week and 2-1 up with less than ten to go the following week and you don’t win either game then that can’t be viewed as anything other than two big missed chances to get three points on the board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago I think Cooke should be a good buy for us. Good to see Johnny K back playing. Longelo scoring again, excellent. International break should give Slattery some extra time to recover. Thought AP struggled today. Surprised he didn’t come off instead of TJ. Everyone else seemed to perform decent without being outstanding. Goalie didnt have much to do but cost us dearly with an absolute howler. JBA got two weeks to consider trying Ox. …….. but only two days to get a good centre back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, MJC said: On paper no, but as I said last week, context is everything with draws. And if you are 3-0 up with twenty minutes to go one week and 2-1 up with less than ten to go the following week and you don’t win either game then that can’t be viewed as anything other than two big missed chances to get three points on the board. Yeah you're right but it was always going to be difficult away at Tynecastle. The game I went to when Wimmer was the manager they beat us 3-1. So there's improvement there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy H Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Kilie fan on Sportsound. "We have 4 draws, they have 4 draws, I would rather watch their draws than ours..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, wellgirl said: Yeah you're right but it was always going to be difficult away at Tynecastle. The game I went to when Wimmer was the manager they beat us 3-1. So there's improvement there Of course and that’s why I emphasised the context of the result. Before a game at Tynecastle you take a 3-3 draw straight away. However we were 3-0 up and comfortable with 20 minutes to go and we failed to win. It wasn’t a bad result to draw that game but at the same time it was definitely two points lost and a missed opportunity. We saw the same today, 2-1 up and relatively comfortable and…we saw what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just back from game. Thought we played well in spells and dominated possession. Thought the 3 changes made prior to end cost us some consistency. Main concern is the 2nd goal we conceded. It came from us having possession at back. Goalkeeper panicking to pass ball to defender and mis placed pass, subsequently knocked out of play. They scored from another mistake from keeper after that. I think there are times when ball could be either thrown or kicked longer. I do think we need better keeper and Ox needs chance. We needed a keeper to command area. Need alternate strategy from when we have goal kicks as teams are well aware of this weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just in from the game and I can’t quite believe Killies equaliser. I was right on line with the cross and ward was never getting it, when it was clear he wasn’t getting it, why the hell not punch it or palm it over the bar. So annoying in particular as I think Ward had done absolutely fine up to that point. I felt we looked really comfortable at 2-1 as well, so frustrating and I don’t think the subs helped at all. I Still see nothing in Hendry, hopefully he’ll turn good but im just not impressed. Charles-Cook looks handy right enough but I thought the 3 subs at the same time didn’t work. overall I was still impressed how we played and a win is sure to come soon. also nearly 7000 there today, long may that continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, wellgirl said: Folk are talking like Ox never made a mistake in goals He has made mistakes also but would you seriously start ward next game when he has cost us 4pts in last 2 games? Anyway still unbeaten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, mio said: Just in from the game and I can’t quite believe Killies equaliser. I was right on line with the cross and ward was never getting it, when it was clear he wasn’t getting it, why the hell not punch it or palm it over the bar. So annoying in particular as I think Ward had done absolutely fine up to that point. I felt we looked really comfortable at 2-1 as well, so frustrating and I don’t think the subs helped at all. I Still see nothing in Hendry, hopefully he’ll turn good but im just not impressed. Charles-Cook looks handy right enough but I thought the 3 subs at the same time didn’t work. overall I was still impressed how we played and a win is sure to come soon. also nearly 7000 there today, long may that continue 7000!! Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Big JBA is gutted we did not win. Wonder if Ward has even entered the dressing room yet? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, grizzlyg said: He has made mistakes also but would you seriously start ward next game when he has cost us 4pts in last 2 games? Anyway still unbeaten Honestly. I don't know. Keepers don't tend to be dropped even when they are struggling. There were calls to drop Kelly at one point - but I'm sure if JBA thinks a change is needed then he will change things up. I don't think Ward is a bad keeper and I don't think Ox is either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago We need to improve up top (seems strange after scoring 5 goals in two games but I think it’s a fair comment) and in defence. Having said that, when you consider that we have dropped 4 points due to glaring errors, you have to say that our style of play is working. As mentioned in another post it’s the glaring errors that need to be fixed, not our style/tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellgirl Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Just now, texanwellfan said: We need to improve up top (seems strange after scoring 5 goals in two games but I think it’s a fair comment) and in defence. Having said that, when you consider that we have dropped 4 points due to glaring errors, you have to say that our style of play is working. As mentioned in another post it’s the glaring errors that need to be fixed, not our style/tactics. You are right. As poor as the defence is at points it's the being poor up top thats costing us more in my view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 4 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: 7000!! Wow They heard you were on holiday 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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