Dundee v Motherwell 13/09/2025

[weeyin]

My 2 takeaways (as they say) from yesterday's game are:

• Welsh looks a decent addition to the defence.
• We are less effective when Slattery and Just are both absent from the starting lineup

Defensively, we're making less mistakes than last season - still too many, but made worse by the fact we aren't killing off the game at the other end when we have the chance.

[steelman1991]

My take on yesterday is that the road infrastructure around the "Queensferry Crossing" is a total cluster f**k.

Left home at 1.15 had only reached the outer appraches of the bridge at 2.30, turned around and came home.

F**k you road planners.

[FirParkCornerExile]

52 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

My take on yesterday is that the road infrastructure around the "Queensferry Crossing" is a total cluster f**k.

Left home at 1.15 had only reached the outer appraches of the bridge at 2.30, turned around and came home.

F**k you road planners.

Its was shocking and the road works into Dundee were horrendous. Traffics at a standstill . Those parking restrictions round the ground are a pain in the arse too. I left East Kilbride at 12.00 to try and avoid the nightmare parking and got to Dundee at 2.15. A journey that normally takes me 1.30 taking 2.15 .

[joewarkfanclub]

3 hours ago, wellfan said:

I hear what you’re saying and I share the concerns about injuries, but honestly, how many more chances does he need before he stops fluffing his lines or getting caught on his heels? With a clinical centre forward and sharper decision making across the team, several of those draws would already be wins. I’m still positive about JBA and the team in general, but I guess I just have to accept we’re stuck with a busted flush for another season at least.

I dont think he has had a real run of games until this season. Last season he came in with no pre season, got injured twice then broke his wrist.

We have what we have until January. If his record doesnt improve by then, I will maybe concede he needs moved on. Until then we need him to contribute until Hendry, Osong etc are fit enough to push him for a starting spot. 

Im happy enough that Maswanhise will get us enough goals to keep us out of trouble, but we need someone to lead the line and at the moment Stama is it.

We do need to stop shipping gsoft goals though. Its great that we do that mostly by just keeping the ball, butnit would be great if we didnt concede pretty much every time we give away cheap possession!

[FirParkCornerExile]

10 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

I dont think he has had a real run of games until this season. Last season he came in with no pre season, got injured twice then broke his wrist.

We have what we have until January. If his record doesnt improve by then, I will maybe concede he needs moved on. Until then we need him to contribute until Hendry, Osong etc are fit enough to push him for a starting spot. 

Im happy enough that Maswanhise will get us enough goals to keep us out of trouble, but we need someone to lead the line and at the moment Stama is it.

We do need to stop shipping gsoft goals though. Its great that we do that mostly by just keeping the ball, butnit would be great if we didnt concede pretty much every time we give away cheap possession!

I actually thought our style of play of playing it our from the back would result in a few more silly goals but it hasn't. The goals we are losing has nothing to do with our style of playing out from the back it just rank bad defending and goalkeeping.

[joewarkfanclub]

15 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

I actually thought our style of play of playing it our from the back would result in a few more silly goals but it hasn't. The goals we are losing has nothing to do with our style of playing out from the back it just rank bad defending and goalkeeping.

Exactly my point.

We have been very good at playing out from the back and as a bi-product, teams are getting very little of the ball to do anything with.

Its just when they do, we arent defending our box very well.

We have conceded 7 goals in the league and gifted 5 of those by not doing our jobs properly.

[El Grew]

Any idea why we weren’t sporting black armbands yesterday in memory of Bobby Graham.

[Kmcalpin]

3 hours ago, steelman1991 said:

My take on yesterday is that the road infrastructure around the "Queensferry Crossing" is a total cluster f**k.

Left home at 1.15 had only reached the outer appraches of the bridge at 2.30, turned around and came home.

F**k you road planners.

Tell me about it. We have to negotiate it travelling to every home game.

Blame the Scottish Government.  Trust me, I know about it all too well. 

[weeyin]

1 hour ago, El Grew said:

Any idea why we weren’t sporting black armbands yesterday in memory of Bobby Graham.

Maybe waiting for the next home match to pay tribute?

[weeyin]

47 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Tell me about it. We have to negotiate it travelling to every home game.

Blame the Scottish Government.  Trust me, I know about it all too well. 

I don't think the government puts out the cones.

[steelman1991]

1 hour ago, weeyin said:

I don't think the government puts out the cones.

That’s because there weren’t any 😤.

[weeyin]

5 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:

That’s because there weren’t any 😤.

No wonder there were problems.

[Kmcalpin]

3 hours ago, weeyin said:

I don't think the government puts out the cones.

Maybe not, but through Transport Scotland, it did design the surrounding infrastructure and serious questions about capacity and other related issues were raised at the time but these were ignored.  Its a long story and not for this forum, but in short, the Queensferry Crossing was deemed to be a straight replacement for the Forth Road Bridge and in no way was it to increase capacity. 

Sorry, I digress from the Dundee game.  

[siebsbarmyarmy]

19 hours ago, steelman1991 said:

My take on yesterday is that the road infrastructure around the "Queensferry Crossing" is a total cluster f**k.

Left home at 1.15 had only reached the outer appraches of the bridge at 2.30, turned around and came home.

F**k you road planners.

There was a smash in the bridge on Saturday. Happened infront of us that essentially closed a lane and a half due to the glass.

Made us miss the first 5 mins and left the house at 1pm. A journey that normally takes 75mins took 2 hours. 

[sinjy]

One worrying thing for me is that two managers, McInnes and Presley have changed things at half time and we have struggled. After the first round of games all managers will have had a close look at us. Let's hope JBA is able to adjust our way of playing if the opposition has sussed us out.

[wellsince75]

4 hours ago, sinjy said:

One worrying thing for me is that two managers, McInnes and Presley have changed things at half time and we have struggled. After the first round of games all managers will have had a close look at us. Let's hope JBA is able to adjust our way of playing if the opposition has sussed us out.

Thats a good point - I suspect many of the players are knackered by 60 mins

we need strong subs to keep momentum  or at least keep the ball - st the moment injuries are preventing us having the depth we need 

[MJC]

4 hours ago, sinjy said:

One worrying thing for me is that two managers, McInnes and Presley have changed things at half time and we have struggled. After the first round of games all managers will have had a close look at us. Let's hope JBA is able to adjust our way of playing if the opposition has sussed us out.

It’s still early(ish) days but so far JBA hasn’t shown any evidence of good game management so far and you have just provided two clear examples of that. There is obviously time for him and us to sort that out and indeed he does have credit in the bank with the team playing some nice football (in the middle of the park mainly) but we have thrown away three consecutive wins from winning positions due to poor play at both ends and poor use of substitutions to try and ‘shut the game down’.

I said this the other day, we might very well look back on our early games especially that Hearts-Kilmarnock-Dundee trio as a very, very big set of missed opportunities this season.

 

[wellgirl]

I don't agree with that. I don't think it's other teams "sussing us out". When teams are losing of course they are going to try and change shape to try and win - and let's not forget we have a weakened midfield just now with Slattery out. Just was benched due to his international travels - we are weakened with injuries just now as well plus we lack options up top. 

Of course it's concerning that we can't hold onto a lead but we aren't the only team in the same position just now. Five games in. I think we need to cut JBA a bit of slack just now