texanwellfan Posted December 31, 2025 Report Share Posted December 31, 2025 The VAR review shite is pointless and achieves nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted December 31, 2025 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2025 1 minute ago, texanwellfan said: The VAR review shite is pointless and achieves nothing Yes the VAR is pointless and achieves nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 10 hours ago, texanwellfan said: The VAR review shite is pointless and achieves nothing It does achieve something, it confirms the view that fans have had for years, ie the SFA in its current form is not fit for purpose, using shit technology to justify shit refereeing decisions, with no comeback or censure, while pandering to the ugly sisters at the expense of every other club in the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 09:16 AM 9 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said: No stills? Funny that! When you see the Gassama one before it, it really brings into question how "honest" some of these mistakes are. Never bought into conspiracies before as both uglies benefit from decisions but Fadingers is a pen all day long in the modern game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted yesterday at 10:06 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:06 AM From the litle I heard from the clips, there seems to be a lot of inconsistencies in the comments between incidents i.e. was there contact yes or no/there was contact but very slight. Also a lot of shouting from the VAR team. On that evidence, I'm far from convinced that its a logical and consistent process and thats before we get to the technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 10:20 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:20 AM 10 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said: From the litle I heard from the clips, there seems to be a lot of inconsistencies in the comments between incidents i.e. was there contact yes or no/there was contact but very slight. Also a lot of shouting from the VAR team. On that evidence, I'm far from convinced that its a logical and consistent process and thats before we get to the technology. The technology is definitely letting us (and the officials) down. But I guess thats what happens when you pay for "VAR LITE". But I agree with you. The inconsistency in decision making is the really frustrating thing. Not just from game to game with different officials. But also different games referred by the same official. (Yes Mr Dickinson we are looking at you!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 10:30 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:30 AM Once subjectivity is allowed to creep into a supposedly objective process, the game’s a bogey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted yesterday at 10:31 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 10:31 AM Just read a post from Al B on P & B. He rightly points out that the VAR team was examining arm contact. The issue wasn't that at all it was a trip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted yesterday at 11:52 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:52 AM 1 hour ago, wellfan said: Once subjectivity is allowed to creep into a supposedly objective process, the game’s a bogey. I'd say the opposite. Too many poor decisions due to "letter of the law" rather than "spirit of the game". The handball rules are a great example of this where attempting to remove subjectivity has made them a complete joke. I agree we need more consistency and better referees. I'd prefer it, however, if we just let them do their job and ditch VAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted yesterday at 12:28 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:28 PM 33 minutes ago, weeyin said: I'd prefer it, however, if we just let them do their job and ditch VAR. Most of us can probably agree on this. Scrap VAR and have referee observers review games afterwards, call out mistakes and inconsistencies, and actually hold officials accountable. Let the game flow and deal with the bad officiating afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM 7 minutes ago, wellfan said: Most of us can probably agree on this. Scrap VAR and have referee observers review games afterwards, call out mistakes and inconsistencies, and actually hold officials accountable. Let the game flow and deal with the bad officiating afterwards. Same thing will happen. No action. But at least we would be doing without the unecessary delays and spoiling of goal celebrations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretband Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago He seemed to say that the VAR cameras were inconclusive but other footage did show it was a pen. I think one of our players ran across and blocked the view at the crucial moment. However it was right in front of the ref so how did he miss it? In his head he maybe thinks ah I’ll leave that one to VAR…Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 23 minutes ago, claretband said: He seemed to say that the VAR cameras were inconclusive but other footage did show it was a pen. I think one of our players ran across and blocked the view at the crucial moment. However it was right in front of the ref so how did he miss it? In his head he maybe thinks ah I’ll leave that one to VAR… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is my biggest gripe with VAR. Instead of hoping VAR steps in, the ref should be able to request it. He should be able to say "I need another look at that". The rules around VAR seem to involve more bureaucracy than South Lanarkshire council. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamH Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago “No no, no no, no chance. Just hits the deck under very minimal contact…” Sounds like something a Rangers fan would say rather than the referee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted 21 hours ago Report Share Posted 21 hours ago VAR is a farce. We dont need a pointless review program to confirm what we know already. Run by biased, corrupt and useless officials. These guys dont want to stop their big brown enevelope appearance fee at friendly games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faddyisgod Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago Whilst I understand the views that people have about removing VAR I would not be in favour of getting rid of technology completely. If we are getting rid of VAR we should invest that money in semi automated offside technology. Objective calls need to be correct and corrupt officials can easily influence them in their favour as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambo97 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 14 hours ago, GrahamH said: “No no, no no, no chance. Just hits the deck under very minimal contact…” Sounds like something a Rangers fan would say rather than the referee. I would say it's exactly what a referee should be thinking and communicating to VAR, he has to be sure and communicate, he might be wrong but he only has one very quick look. I'll bet there is not one person who has been 100% certain over a decision at the game only to see a replay later and realised how wrong they were. He's giving the reason for his decision, VAR ignored that by looking for arm contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 28 minutes ago, cambo97 said: I would say it's exactly what a referee should be thinking and communicating to VAR, he has to be sure and communicate, he might be wrong but he only has one very quick look. I'll bet there is not one person who has been 100% certain over a decision at the game only to see a replay later and realised how wrong they were. He's giving the reason for his decision, VAR ignored that by looking for arm contact. Ordinarily I would agree. I hate to see players going down too easily with insufficient contact to cause it, and Id love to see it removed from the game. That said, its not the world we live in and the authorities dont seem to want to change it, so what are we to do? The Gassama incident at Aberdeen is actually worse. Minimal contact didnt seem to be an issue there and Collum was of the opinion it met the standard and was a clear penalty. Its the inconsistency that boils folks piss. And it always appears to be inconsistent in favour of the big clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambo97 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, joewarkfanclub said: Ordinarily I would agree. I hate to see players going down too easily with insufficient contact to cause it, and Id love to see it removed from the game. That said, its not the world we live in and the authorities dont seem to want to change it, so what are we to do? The Gassama incident at Aberdeen is actually worse. Minimal contact didnt seem to be an issue there and Collum was of the opinion it met the standard and was a clear penalty. Its the inconsistency that boils folks piss. And it always appears to be inconsistent in favour of the big clubs. i don't disagree with your comments, I was commenting on the referee's rationale, he thought he went down too easily. I don't think he did and neither should have VAR but they did. We shouldn't be pulling up the referee on saying what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 35 minutes ago, cambo97 said: i don't disagree with your comments, I was commenting on the referee's rationale, he thought he went down too easily. I don't think he did and neither should have VAR but they did. We shouldn't be pulling up the referee on saying what he did. A player can go down too easily but that doesn't mean is not a penalty. Not quite the same thing but I recall Richard Tait winning a foul at Easter Road and then being booked for simulation at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 40 minutes ago, cambo97 said: i don't disagree with your comments, I was commenting on the referee's rationale, he thought he went down too easily. I don't think he did and neither should have VAR but they did. We shouldn't be pulling up the referee on saying what he did. I think his rationale is the problem. He is saying in his comments you are not allowed to go down easily regardless of the actions of the defending player. (Fernandez clearly hangs his leg). His boss just went on camera and said that going down easily doesnt matter. The contact justifies the penalty decision. Both cant be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said: I think his rationale is the problem. He is saying in his comments you are not allowed to go down easily regardless of the actions of the defending player. (Fernandez clearly hangs his leg). His boss just went on camera and said that going down easily doesnt matter. The contact justifies the penalty decision. Both cant be correct. Minimal contact from a trip can make you go down but minimal contact body to body is where some players embellish it and go down but again it’s a physical sport amd body to body contact is not necessarily a foul even if there is much stronger contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, texanwellfan said: Minimal contact from a trip can make you go down but minimal contact body to body is where some players embellish it and go down but again it’s a physical sport amd body to body contact is not necessarily a foul even if there is much stronger contact. Both incidents involved the defender dangling a leg and the attacking player going over it. So we are comparing like with like...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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