mio Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said: You say negative, we say pragmatic, didn't suffer fools and moved on from his mistakes PDQ Does “we” mean “I” 😉 im not convinced he did move on from mistakes. We suffered years of negative performances and then we had a couple of really good seasons, mostly sparked by the genius of Cooper. He then tore apart a good cup winning team because he fell out with them and then buggered off to Hearts who he almost relegated. He also failed at Dundee Utd I just think our views of him are clouded because of the cup win. But….. that day is still one of the best of my life so I still love the pig headed wee guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yabba's Turd Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 19 minutes ago, mio said: Does “we” mean “I” 😉 im not convinced he did move on from mistakes. We suffered years of negative performances and then we had a couple of really good seasons, mostly sparked by the genius of Cooper. He then tore apart a good cup winning team because he fell out with them and then buggered off to Hearts who he almost relegated. He also failed at Dundee Utd I just think our views of him are clouded because of the cup win. But….. that day is still one of the best of my life so I still love the pig headed wee guy. I'm biased, I knew Tomtom really well from working there, he was under extremely tight budgets, FP had been neglected/homered/patched with sellotape for years and required massive investment and running repairs, pennies mattered, the contracts of the players he 'fell out' with were based on 'we are cup winners' Tommy's answer was 'so?' Would have been interesting to see what he would have done with Phil's transfer had he stayed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yabba's Turd said: I'm biased, I knew Tomtom really well from working there, he was under extremely tight budgets, FP had been neglected/homered/patched with sellotape for years and required massive investment and running repairs, pennies mattered, the contracts of the players he 'fell out' with were based on 'we are cup winners' Tommy's answer was 'so?' Would have been interesting to see what he would have done with Phil's transfer had he stayed. I remember Craig Patersons career was finished because he asked for £50 a week more. I don’t think Tommy played him again. I always remember thinking he didn’t deserve that. ive no doubt there was penny pinching and tough budgets but he did manage to broker himself a good pay deal when he left us for hearts Anyway, he’ll still go down… even with me… as a real legend of the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The African Posted 14 hours ago Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Tommy McLean did a fantastic job at Fir Park. He was very much "of his time" and had to build his team over a period of several seasons as was the norm in those days. He built from the back and made us hard to beat and competitive which were the foundations of our success. I would contend that we improved as a team nearly every season and that has to be seen as a marked success for a club of our size. The fact that he didn't go on to bigger and better things after he left Fir Park can perhaps be put down to a number of factors. Times were changing and he was unwilling or unable to change his managerial style to accommodate these changes. He was also just a very "good fit" for Motherwell at that time. A true case of the right an being in the right place at the right time. I will always be grateful for his service to the club. As for now, one game at a time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Realistically even looking ahead 9 of our last 11 games are against the T6. We've W3 D6 L3 against those teams so far I think for us to win the league we'd have to win 10 out the last 11 games and going of our record against those teams that doesn't look particularly likely hence the reason going out the cup was so gutting as that was our real chance for a trophy. Anyway team for Dundee Utd for me would be the same 1 that started the St Mirren game. It will be the last game of Fadinger's suspension so that's a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 37 minutes ago, thewelllfan said: Realistically even looking ahead 9 of our last 11 games are against the T6. We've W3 D6 L3 against those teams so far I think for us to win the league we'd have to win 10 out the last 11 games and going of our record against those teams that doesn't look particularly likely hence the reason going out the cup was so gutting as that was our real chance for a trophy. Anyway team for Dundee Utd for me would be the same 1 that started the St Mirren game. It will be the last game of Fadinger's suspension so that's a positive. Fadinger was 2 game suspension i thought so would be available snd I would bring him in for Slattery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago 8 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Fadinger was 2 game suspension i thought so would be available snd I would bring him in for Slattery happy days then I think it would be harsh to drop Slattery given he got what 2 or 3 assists in the last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 7 hours ago, thewelllfan said: happy days then I think it would be harsh to drop Slattery given he got what 2 or 3 assists in the last game. Its a tough call as Priestman has been excellent also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 hours ago, thewelllfan said: Realistically even looking ahead 9 of our last 11 games are against the T6. We've W3 D6 L3 against those teams so far I think for us to win the league we'd have to win 10 out the last 11 games and going of our record against those teams that doesn't look particularly likely hence the reason going out the cup was so gutting as that was our real chance for a trophy. Anyway team for Dundee Utd for me would be the same 1 that started the St Mirren game. It will be the last game of Fadinger's suspension so that's a positive. On the plus side, those games give us the chance to directly affect where we finish. If we manage to take full points from the next 2 games, our season may well be entirely in our own hands. One thing's for sure - nobody will be looking forward to playing us right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 16 hours ago, mio said: Wee Tommy was probably the most negative managers we’ve ever had. Our manager now has the polar opposite approach to games. No chance was he the most negative,Kettlewell and GA?? .Cooper and Russell couldn't manage a tackle between them but cracking attacking players, he did what he had to do at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 20 hours ago, mio said: If we stay with the same side as last night we will win. In this game I don’t really want the old “6 changes to be team” post before the game. Fadinger would be the only one I’d consider starting but that’d mean Priestman dropping out and the boy has been exceptional and doesn’t deserve dropped. looking over social media this morning (I know I shouldn’t) it’s so mixed, it’s either we are all arrogant c@nts or we are the future of football. It’s so weird seeing us mentioned by so many other clubs and seeing their opinions. It’s weird but I do like it. i just hope that the slattery thing blows over and doesn’t effect him. He’s been absolutely panned. Cracking player but he deserves panning, I remember todd cantwell doing similar to him a few years ago. Should have more respect for fellow pros especially when cruising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretband Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago I still remember Utd scoring in injury time and the announcer giving the other results at fulltime - "And in the other Premier games where they played the regulation 90 minutes"The Brewster goal yes?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago We can win the league until we can't. Take it a game at a time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted 23 minutes ago Report Share Posted 23 minutes ago 1 hour ago, wellon said: No chance was he the most negative,Kettlewell and GA?? .Cooper and Russell couldn't manage a tackle between them but cracking attacking players, he did what he had to do at the time After Tommy won the First Division, we suffered a few years of parking the bus with little success. The first year in the SPL in particular was parking the bus every week, and still ended up joint bottom with Clydebank, saved from relegation again by league reconstruction. Cooper and Russell joined a couple of years after that, when things slowly started to turn around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellon Posted just now Report Share Posted just now 21 minutes ago, weeyin said: After Tommy won the First Division, we suffered a few years of parking the bus with little success. The first year in the SPL in particular was parking the bus every week, and still ended up joint bottom with Clydebank, saved from relegation again by league reconstruction. Cooper and Russell joined a couple of years after that, when things slowly started to turn around. I know I was there...you couldn't have got cooper and Russell in early years so that option wasn't there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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