MJC Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 2 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Let's see how McInnes gets treated Indeed. And if he is not handed at least a four match ban the same as Watt then we need to be questioning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago McInnes ban should be longer than Watts (albeit I wholeheartedly disagree with Watts punishment.) His language was stronger, he inferred foul play, even if he didnt say it implicitly, and it was in reference to a game neither he nor his team were involved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago Personally feel that the SFA have targeted us the wee club on a couple now . first Slattery and now this - like many have said - disgraceful 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Dosser Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, Motherwell Daft said: Utterly ridiculous by the clearly corrupt old firm centric authorities for both banning a player for 4 games for “hurty words” and fine Well £5k, yet the team who’s supporters invade pitches and manager say similar “hurty words” get a slap on the wrist. Point of order to be noted is that the old firm authorities feel it is a lesser offence for hordes of your fans to invade multiple pitches, cause hundreds of thousands of pounds of damage to other teams stadiums, sweep, sweep nothing to see here, move along… I sincerely hope the club fight this scandalous result fully. This makes a further mockery of Scottish football across the world, first of all none of our clearly crap referees couldnt even get a place in what was one of the worst refereed World Cups in history and would I’m sure have fitted in wonderfully given the shocking and corrupted standard in show. Excellent post: this measure is shamefully vindictive because the SFA can't stand the truth and we all knew this was coming. At least the club seems to be considering some sort of legal challenge to it, which is to be welcomed. Until the clubs outwith the OF unite to oppose the authorities' incompetence and corruption, things will only get worse because the "powers that be" will consider themselves more and more invulnerable and unaccountable. I'm beelin' even before the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Let's see how McInnes gets treated Presumably with Ronseal wood stain. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, wellfan said: Presumably with Ronseal wood stain. Ragin.................wish I had thought of thst 👏👏👏👏 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago Well should hire Aamer Anwat to please their case, he does every other court case in Scotland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellup83 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 41 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: Well should hire Aamer Anwat to please their case, he does every other court case in Scotland Na. Get Donald Findlay in. He hates the selik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago You get the sense that Motherwell have got under the skin of the SFA last season. What should have been a real positive for the game in Scotland with one of the smaller teams genuinely competing (and often outplaying) with the 4 big city clubs now has more of a sense of reprisal than celebration about it. Is it possible that the authorities felt genuinely threatened by what Motherwell were trying to do? It seems far fetched in the extreme to think that is possible and yet for the authorities to come down on Motherwell not once but twice with punishments that don't really fit the crime seems more than just a coincidence. I can see no positive motive in actively targeting Motherwell in this way and yet as fans of the club and for the club itself there is a palpable sense that we have indeed been targeted. I have found myself drifting away from football in recent times largely because of the governance of the game both nationally and globally ( look at FIFA in the WC). Motherwell were pulling me back in last year. They were a breath of fresh air and yet the powers that be seem determined to drain the life out of any flicker of hope that things can be better. There is an inconsistency about the SFA response to many of these matters. When there is so much to fix in the game in this country (Old Firm pitch invasions being one) it seems a little like booking someone for parking over two carparking spaces whilst a riot is kicking off all around. It's all a bit weird. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 9 hours ago, grizzlyg said: Well should hire Aamer Anwat to please their case, he does every other court case in Scotland Or Beltramey remember him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wellsince75 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 7 hours ago, star sail said: You get the sense that Motherwell have got under the skin of the SFA last season. What should have been a real positive for the game in Scotland with one of the smaller teams genuinely competing (and often outplaying) with the 4 big city clubs now has more of a sense of reprisal than celebration about it. Is it possible that the authorities felt genuinely threatened by what Motherwell were trying to do? It seems far fetched in the extreme to think that is possible and yet for the authorities to come down on Motherwell not once but twice with punishments that don't really fit the crime seems more than just a coincidence. I can see no positive motive in actively targeting Motherwell in this way and yet as fans of the club and for the club itself there is a palpable sense that we have indeed been targeted. I have found myself drifting away from football in recent times largely because of the governance of the game both nationally and globally ( look at FIFA in the WC). Motherwell were pulling me back in last year. They were a breath of fresh air and yet the powers that be seem determined to drain the life out of any flicker of hope that things can be better. There is an inconsistency about the SFA response to many of these matters. When there is so much to fix in the game in this country (Old Firm pitch invasions being one) it seems a little like booking someone for parking over two carparking spaces whilst a riot is kicking off all around. It's all a bit weird. For me it smacks of put the ‘wee club back in it’s place ‘ not so much for playing good football but for daring to challenge and have an opinion - feedback offered by the club is taken as critique and attack . All very shallow minded . Had things been reversed would an OF player be punished with ban at the time Slattery was , would they face a 4 game ban now ? had Motherwell invaded the pitch before the games had ended and behaved the way Celtic did - would the punishment be minor ? im trying not to sit with a tinfoil hat on but the evidence and outcomes are staggering . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, wellsince75 said: For me it smacks of put the ‘wee club back in it’s place ‘ I think thats it. This decision is overly harsh and totally inconsistent. We'll see if this level of punishment is applied again in future for similar situations. In short, we are an easy target. Being pedantic, Watt's comment was an opinion, based on some factual basis. Presumably the SFA thought that there were worse VAR decisions than that one. If so, what were they? Come on tell us. As for the club's fine, that is also nonsense. According to Graeme McGarry, the fine isn't for the club's comments, but because it posted a picture of a Celtic player with the referee? Really? is that the level they've stooped to? Its interesting that the club might challenge the fine, and I hope it does, but also that it has asked for the reasons in writing. Now thats interesting in its own right. They've either only been given them by word of mouth or they haven't been given them at all. The whole thing stinks. Just as with society in general, free speech is being clamped down on. You are free to express an opinion as long as it is consistent with that of the establishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago Its hard not to think that there is more at play here when the punishments applied are clearly excessive. Neither the club nor Elliot Watt have questioned the integrity of the match officials, well maybe the club inferred it with the photo of Beaton & McGregor, but its not the most blatant example Ive seen/heard. Of course, we will take it more personally as its our club that is invovled, but it appears most fans of most other clubs agree, if the views expressed on P&B are anything to go by. Again, I will await the punishment of McInnes with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 14 hours ago, wellsince75 said: Personally feel that the SFA have targeted us the wee club on a couple now . first Slattery and now this - like many have said - disgraceful Sorry , Slattery( top player) deserved it....this latest one on Watt is bullying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, star sail said: It's all a bit weird. I’ve previously accused the SFA of circling the wagons to protect their own whenever they’re faced with legitimate criticism. It’s a closed shop with zero accountability, so I expect nothing less. As for your bit weird comment, I’d say this: it’s not weird, it appears to be corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Sorry , Slattery( top player) deserved it....this latest one on Watt is bullying. I would agree that Slattery deserved it if similar incidents were getting the same punishment. What is striking about the Slattery incident is that is was a punishment in isolation of other similar incidents. You can see the levels of simulation in the World Cup. As far as I am aware not one player has received a ban for it. I understand different governing body, different referees but it is the same sport and in that context Slattery's punishment was excessive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, star sail said: I would agree that Slattery deserved it if similar incidents were getting the same punishment. What is striking about the Slattery incident is that is was a punishment in isolation of other similar incidents. You can see the levels of simulation in the World Cup. As far as I am aware not one player has received a ban for it. I understand different governing body, different referees but it is the same sport and in that context Slattery's punishment was excessive. I actually thought in wc , the refereeing was not bad and they didn't use var unnecessarily. Maybe in Morocco game for us, we could've done with it but were any of the " clear and obvious " errors? Diving seemed to be clamped down on ...Bellingham, kane and Gordon still seemed to buy a few. Scottish refs will be back to feckin it up , they dont have the balls to go against the of. Can you imagine the celtic pen being given in wc or any other country? Unfortunately we aren't going to get anywhere i fear, sfa are doubling down on decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star sail Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Great Balls of Shire said: I actually thought in wc , the refereeing was not bad and they didn't use var unnecessarily. Maybe in Morocco game for us, we could've done with it but were any of the " clear and obvious " errors? Diving seemed to be clamped down on ...Bellingham, kane and Gordon still seemed to buy a few. Scottish refs will be back to feckin it up , they dont have the balls to go against the of. Can you imagine the celtic pen being given in wc or any other country? Unfortunately we aren't going to get anywhere i fear, sfa are doubling down on decisions. Agreed. It has been nice to see the refs in the WC trying to make the game flow as much as possible. It has highlighted just how pedantic the Scottish referees are. It has been quite notably just how much of a difference there is been the top referees in the World and their Scottish peers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, star sail said: Agreed. It has been nice to see the refs in the WC trying to make the game flow as much as possible. It has highlighted just how pedantic the Scottish referees are. It has been quite notably just how much of a difference there is been the top referees in the World and their Scottish peers. There is a reason there were no Scottish referees at the world cup, ie all of them are feckin brutal and not up to the standard required, can you imagine the sight of Collum or Beaton mic'ed up tyring to explain a VAR call 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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