David Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Spiderpig said: Apart from you maybe, nobody ever remembers or cares how much cash the club earned in a season, but win a trophy or a title etc and its remembered and discussed for generations, especially at s club of our size as has been said earlier " thats our cake" a run in Europe is the reward for the team being the star bakers and producing a great cake over the season. Well, it's quite clear that man who's in charge thinks differently, so there is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 7 minutes ago, David said: Well, it's quite clear that man who's in charge thinks differently, so there is that. What man in charge would that be, kyrk McMillan, brian caldwell, AJ, or the WS board rep? Maybe as a fan owned club the ws should do a survey on the topic and see what the real people in charge think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuwell2 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Firstly I’m pissed off that we lost that game today, a very poor performance by most of the team, many of them playing way below their best and a good bit short of what they should produce on a bad day. Secondly AJ said in one of his interviews that we in Scotland take cup games way more seriously than in Scandinavian countries so I think the back room staff/senior players had told him and whether he ignored them or thought the line up was good enough we’ll probably never know but it’s a fuck up down to him. Thirdly on the cup v Europe thing my view is that if we’re going to sign better players, being able to say to potential signings that we finished fourth in the league, reached the 3rd qualifying round in the ECL and hope to improve on that next season beats we reached the semi final of the Scottish League Cup - it shows more ambition. I’m sure any player we’re trying to get in has played in a similar game to today and gets that shit happens as they say so I don’t think that would put them off but a bad one over the next two Thursdays might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 21 minutes ago, steelman1991 said: And cup wins come along every other year FFS 🤦♂️. “Sorry, you cannot add anymore reactions today” I went to give you a like for that comment. I genuinely don’t understand the mindset of some Motherwell fans when it comes to domestic Cups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago Game was played on an awful surface, so manager decides some regulars with niggles and were tierd don't play as they may have got really hurt on this park and affected team performance and selection for weeks to come never mind Thursday. No way cup comps or league games should be played on a plastic pitch that doesn't allow teams to play their strongest team for fear of injury eg. Killie/ Livi last few seasons. Selection was made with this in mind, it backfired and manager gets most of the blame . We have no given right to win over wee teams, we have to earn it. Hopefully everyone, players and managers alike learn from this. It's only one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnstone Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 25 minutes ago, MJC said: “Sorry, you cannot add anymore reactions today” I went to give you a like for that comment. I genuinely don’t understand the mindset of some Motherwell fans when it comes to domestic Cups. I was coming from the perspective that we get to compete in the league cup every season, we get to compete in Europe maybe every 5 years or so. So for me I would take a Euro run over a league cup run. Each to their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjy Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago What is your biggest memory as a Well fan? Was it playing Dortmund, or playing Panathanikos in the Champions League? Was it marching through the streets of Nancy (I was there). These are great memories but for me seeing us win the cup in 91 will always be the best and until we do it again it will not be beaten 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Was actually telling my 17 year old on the way back how many shit teams have won a cup since we last won one today’s unacceptable & there’s literally a 1% chance we get to the group stage of Europe ( we’d have a better chance if we had any attacking options & none of the ones injured particularly suggest they would have an impact if they were fit ) happily be proven wrong if we do manage the impossible 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prestwickwell Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Not actually sure vogt, booth, Wilson or Ross would get in the stenhousemuir team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, sinjy said: What is your biggest memory as a Well fan? Was it playing Dortmund, or playing Panathanikos in the Champions League? Was it marching through the streets of Nancy (I was there). These are great memories but for me seeing us win the cup in 91 will always be the best and until we do it again it will not be beaten Personally for me it was going for a pish in the East Stand in the Prelim Champions League qualifiers against PAO in 2012. Unremarkable as that may sound, I just remember thinking “this is the Champions League, sort of, and here I am using the facilities in the East Stand during a Champions League prelim qualifier…‘91 has nothing on this surely?” As I exited the ‘facilities’ PAO scored their second goal but my heart was beaming with pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsterwood Posted 11 hours ago Report Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Prestwickwell said: Not actually sure vogt, booth, Wilson or Ross would get in the stenhousemuir team I am sure they wouldnt get in stenny team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 10 hours ago, Spiderpig said: What man in charge would that be, kyrk McMillan, brian caldwell, AJ, or the WS board rep? Maybe as a fan owned club the ws should do a survey on the topic and see what the real people in charge think The manager, obviously. He's the guy who picks the team. 10 hours ago, johnstone said: I was coming from the perspective that we get to compete in the league cup every season, we get to compete in Europe maybe every 5 years or so. So for me I would take a Euro run over a league cup run. Each to their own. 100% agree. I hold the Scottish Cup much higher than the League Cup for sure. The League Cup has been won by St Mirren, St Johnstone and Ross County over the past ten years or so. I honestly had to look that up. It's a competition that means next to nothing for me when we have a European run going. 9 hours ago, sinjy said: What is your biggest memory as a Well fan? Was it playing Dortmund, or playing Panathanikos in the Champions League? Was it marching through the streets of Nancy (I was there). These are great memories but for me seeing us win the cup in 91 will always be the best and until we do it again it will not be beaten Wait, it wasn't getting to the League Cup final in 2017/18? Or in 2004/05? The Scottish Cup holds a special place in my heart that the League Cup simply doesn't. I value the Scottish Cup win alongside the European adventures far more than any League Cup adventures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago I still think AJ had a tough call to make yesterday. Look at our injury list which now has Priestman added. Also look at that pitch yesterday. We could have played full team, won 1-0 but have 3 more out due to muscle issues. Last thing we need is JK, longelo, faddy and Moormann out. Players need to look at themselves. Big opportunity yesterday for some and they didnt take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, grizzlyg said: Players need to look at themselves. Big opportunity yesterday for some and they didnt take it. Yes, some players didn't do themselves or the club any favours. There's been plenty of talk about incomings but a few need to be shipped out either on loan, to mitigate wage costs or to gain experience; or permanently. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago The league Cup has lost a lot of interest , profile and devalued for supporters in general now as its only on premier sports , which no one even notices now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, stv said: The league Cup has lost a lot of interest , profile and devalued for supporters in general now as its only on premier sports , which no one even notices now. As a Motherwell fan i want to see the team win every game it plays thats obviously not going to happen but i wish it would. The sell out away support yesterday would suggest the league cup is not devalued, its a national trophy and we should be trying to win it, likewise with the Scottish cup, SPFL premiership, any European competition we qualify for, the lanarkshire cup, summer cup, etc etc. The match programme at Fir park, lists our achievements over the years not the profits we make as thats how 99.9999% of football fans the world over judge their teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Spiderpig said: As a Motherwell fan i want to see the team win every game it plays thats obviously not going to happen but i wish it would. I wouldn't want that either. Winning every game sounds dead boring, and leads to the sort of entitled fanbase the OF are blessed with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, numpty said: I wouldn't want that either. Winning every game sounds dead boring, and leads to the sort of entitled fanbase the OF are blessed with. I knows its not realistic id settle for a 55% win rate 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago We’re not going to win every game and no ‘Well fan with their head screwed on knows this. We are also hugely up against it when it comes to winning one of the domestic cups. However it’s the manner of our exits against opposition we have been more than capable of beating over the years that irks more than anything else. Lower league Stenhousemuir, drop eight players, lose, out the cup. Aberdeen who we have beaten three times already and are easily outperforming in the league…rotate the team, leave key players out, lose, out the cup. And there have been more examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny71 Posted just now Report Share Posted just now Terrible performance and poor selection, which just highlights our injury ravaged squad and lack of quality signings,was there any positives not really clutching at straws but I thought the new boy Hodge was ok and probably Lowery was the best on the park for us, what was really shocking was our lack of attempts on goal ,I really hope the gaffer learned a valuable lesson from this and that some of the younger guys need to go out on loan or get moved on ,was it bad yes but was it Darvel v Aberdeen bad I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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