Burma Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Yes. Evidence for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Evidence for this? Evidence that he didn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 according to flows topic its quoted as saying he refused ON A NUMBER OF OCCASSIONS to sign a contract. No timetable quoted but it seems to have been quite reasonable request by the board to have him commit himself to the Well and appears to have been given ample opportunity to do so. Although, him starting without signing a contract still eats at me and seems quite unprofessional by the Well board, but then again I don't know the facts behind the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepper Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I've never seen a manager so uninterested in keeing his job than Gannon over the last couple of weeks. My guess is he has forced the Clubs hand cos he wanted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
postiejim Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Ack fuck, now i'm on the lookout for a new avatar got mine already mate, whit do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmjay Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I've not changed my tune, I think sacking Gannon is a ridiculous decision, terrible timing and if there were other reasons behind the manager's dismissal, then we should be told. Giving someone the bullet for not having a contract when you've allowed them to work without a contract for months, well I hope Boyle realises how stupid that sounds. Gannon seemed like he knew his own mind, if Boyle just wants a puppet then maybe he'll bear that in mind with the next appointment he makes. I totally agree with you Wellgirl. I just didn't have the opportunity to write it!!! There's three sides to every story, and at the moment, opinions are being based on only one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Evidence for this? not evedence as such mate but surely giving his not signing a contract as a reason to sack him implies to me that we did try tpo get him to sign longer term and not apply for other posts as was rumoured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Evidence that he didn't? You commited a murder!! No I didnt!! Prove it!! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellTiliDie Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Glad that he has been sacked by all accounts he was an arrogant c**t and certainly came across in the media that way. He won't be missed in Scotland. We've been pish for the last 3 months so things had to change. Looking forward to Tynecastle on Wednesday night now i reckon we will win. Mon the Well!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 not evedence as such mate but surely giving his not signing a contract as a reason to sack him implies to me that we did try tpo get him to sign longer term and not apply for other posts as was rumoured Which would suggest that it was not a condition of his employment. Thats just bad management from Boyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Going to regret this a lot i fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Ack fuck, now i'm on the lookout for a new avatar Changed mine as well...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 You commited a murder!! No I didnt!! Prove it!! LOL None of us has any evidence to back up anything, that's my point ya tool. You've been on here spouting your armaggedon pish for hours now with no evidence to back anything up. We don't know there wasn't a deadline and we don't kno if there was a deadline. The only piece of evidence that there would have been a deadline would be the press conference about 2 1/2 hours ago. Someone merely suggested that Boyle may have been working to a deadline on the matter and you're looking for proof of it so you can continue berating Boyle and whoever else for the situation. EDIT: Infact ignore all that. Yes, I have evidence that a deadline had been set. That OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I've not changed my tune, I think sacking Gannon is a ridiculous decision, terrible timing and if there were other reasons behind the manager's dismissal, then we should be told. Giving someone the bullet for not having a contract when you've allowed them to work without a contract for months, well I hope Boyle realises how stupid that sounds. Gannon seemed like he knew his own mind, if Boyle just wants a puppet then maybe he'll bear that in mind with the next appointment he makes. but you are being told, read it again he wasn't 'let go' purely because of the lack of a contract there were also other reasons "Over the past couple of months it has become abundantly clear that the manager was not fully committed to the Club and, despite our best efforts, he repeatedly refused to sign a contract. Relations between the manager, staff and directors deteriorated to the extent that the situation became untenable. " The club can't exactly publicly run off a list of the exact nature of these relations, but can folk please stop claiming he was only let go because of not signing a contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 None of us has any evidence to back up anything, that's my point ya tool. You've been on here spouting your armaggedon pish for hours now with no evidence to back anything up. We don't know there wasn't a deadline and we don't kno if there was a deadline. The only piece of evidence that there would have been a deadline would be the press conference about 2 1/2 hours ago. Someone merely suggested that Boyle may have been working to a deadline on the matter and you're looking for proof of it so you can continue berating Boyle and whoever else for the situation. And you have been trying to maintain some sense that there is a plan behind this. Which is quite frankly utter pish as you have no evidence to back anything up you stupid fud. Your the one who suggested that Boyle had implemented a deadline. i merely asked where you had got this because it would have changed my outlook on the way Boyle has handled it. Boyle is a fuckin idiot. And the only reason ive been on here for hours is because its freezing and the telly is pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Grew Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Sorry to have been proved right - perhaps for wrong reason - but as I posted on Saturday evening, I did think that he'd gone too far in his post-match interview when he publicly stated that it didn't matter what he did the players were basically no good. IMO JB is not entirely blameless in this affair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 And you have been trying to maintain some sense that there is a plan behind this. Which is quite frankly utter pish as you have no evidence to back anything up you stupid fud. Your the one who suggested that Boyle had implemented a deadline. i merely asked where you had got this because it would have changed my outlook on the way Boyle has handled it. Boyle is a fuckin idiot. It should be 'you're' or 'you are' Ban him awaits the incoming barage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Or the fact that he misses shagging the chairman's son. Pretty random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearethemotherwellfc Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Who's taken over for the next few games then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 It should be 'you're' or 'you are' Ban him awaits the incoming barage No full stops, and it should be Awaits with a capital A. But cheers for trying to cheer me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 even setup barrage for you to ridiclue and you missed it, extend the ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallow Dave Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Or the fact that he misses shagging the chairman's son. I guess it depends on the age of the son i.e. over 18 or not as to whether we will be singing certain songs should Gannon ever return to Fir Park..... [allegedly]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 I honestly have never used this but here goes, PMSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk2205 Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Signed without a contract...and sacked because he wouldnt sign one. This just about sums up the mickey mouse operation that John Boyle and co run. After two and a half years of pulling the wool over peoples eyes with a couple of pleasing appointments and the reversal of the cooper. It is now clear to see the blinding incompetence that John Boyle runs Motherwell Football Club with. Dear John, do you never learn? We should of suspected something was wrong with the blatant lying in the relaid pitch/drains debacle. But we glanced over that because things were going well. Now we're stood, in the final days of december, 72 hours before the transfer window opens..and more importantly before we lose key members of our first team, managerless. In the summer you, supposedly, held extensive interviews with several individuals. Jim Gannon has been open about his unwillingness to sign a long term contract, a look at his previous club would of alerted you to this. You have chosen to bring him in John over other managers, because quite simply it would not of cost you a penny to bump him off. Whilst Gannon is derided for his long term plans for Motherwell, you sit up in the stands with your short arsed wee suits...obviously with a vacant blank space between your ears! Where is John Boyle's vision for Motherwell? Are you still trying to sell the club off?? Are you still trying to piece together where it all went wrong at Zoom??? I'm sure in time we will find out Jim Gannon's version of events. Jim Gannon has obviously rubbed people up the wrong way, there has to be truth in the rumours with regards to player fall outs. He says what he feels, rightly or wrongly. Many occasions in the last 2 months what he's said is unneccessary. He had a vision. He wanted to offer something different. His promotion of the young guys was refreshing. Some of his signings, excellent. He had his faults like every other manager. He was very naive with the scottsh press. The referee situation was a blight on the club, in the media's eyes anyway. Jim Gannon sat there at the fans forum before the Rangers game and said that while he had been approached he had not been interviewed for other jobs, and his commitment was to Motherwell and John Boyle. If he lied to the fans then it'll reflect very poorly on his character, and certainly alters any legacy he has left at fir park. With regards to players feelings, Craigan inparticular. Craigan has been a wonderful servant for Motherwell, but it took a fresh face to quite clearly see he is totally inadequate on a week to week basis in the SPL. Perhaps one off games for Northern Ireland are different. But yourself and Lasley, whilst great club servants, are the type of players who hold younger players back by holding onto a position you no longer deserve or merit. My fear is now we'll be stuck watching some very boring, Ian McCall, Gordon Chisholm, (Insert any other pish scottish journeyman manager), with some very typical Mark Burchill, Jim Hamilton, Gerry Britton, Dougie Imrie style players. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 And you have been trying to maintain some sense that there is a plan behind this. Which is quite frankly utter pish as you have no evidence to back anything up you stupid fud. Your the one who suggested that Boyle had implemented a deadline. i merely asked where you had got this because it would have changed my outlook on the way Boyle has handled it. Boyle is a fuckin idiot. And the only reason ive been on here for hours is because its freezing and the telly is pish. Its only as stupid position if Jim had not been given a deadline to actually sign a contract to give us stability There you go. It was stoney who brought up the suggestion that Gannon may have been given a deadline. Which I'm guessing may have expired some time this morning. You then asked a stupid question and I gave a stupid answer. Like 'Flow, I shouldn't have bothered. And I've no problem with you being on here for a few hours, just stop talking pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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