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Do linesman even award pens any more? I think, at most, they might ask VAR to look. Last thing they want is to make an actual decision.

Most likely incompetent.

The linesman was a standing only a few yards away and should have spotted it. I can only assume he was unsighted?

And yet some Midden supporters still claiming Cook pushed his arm forward onto the ball from the back and it was never a penalty.

Welcome. I hope you enjoy your visit. I have limited local knowledge; others will hopefully provide you with that. However, if you're coming from the east, leave the M8 at Newhouse and continue along the old A8, coming off at the next junction. Continue south along Bo'ness Road, past Holytown. Then down through the former Ravenscraig site. There's reasonable on street parking in Orbiston Street. Best to park to the north east of the ground if you can as its easiest to head back eastwards afterwards.

I couldn't believe the linesman didn't see it , or chose not to see it. Absolutely horrendous officiating from from both the ref and linesman. But par for the course from our incompetent shower of officials.

When any new manager comes in, any players not starting regularly should always be thinking that the new manager is an opportunity. Miller is in that situation. Can he make the best of it?

There's a case to be made for prioritising Girdwood-Reich over Knight-Lebel as he's our player that we've paid money for and are looking to develop as long as Knight-Lebel isn't a marked upgrade.. What I think would help (and I know it's a squad game) is to stick with thw same back four for a few games (I know injuries haven't helped on occasion). The manager has made several references to building connections and relationships in the team, that comes with consistency of team selection. There is no point of playing O'Donnell for a couple of games then Girdwood-Reich for a couple and now maybe bringing in Knight-Lebel. And I say that as someone who was impressed by Knight-Lebel. Defensively, I think we're all hoping and thinking that the return of Priestman in front of the back four will help hugely...

After last seasons glorious Motherwell run.. me and the boy who’s was 12 Wanted to see local spl game. we went to Hibs v well at Easter road.. last game season.. we live near Edinburgh.. East Lothian (we doont support any Scottish teams) but I was worrying he was picking Hibs.. 😂 anyway after seeing all the well fans and how they supported there team for the full match they out sang the whole off Easter road… we thought we would love to watch a Motherwell game again.. this time at home.. anyways…he’s been pestering me for a motherwell match again and we decided on well v Dundee just before Xmas.. anyway. Is there any help tips or things to help a first time father and son visitors to Fir park? Where to park? What time to be there to see the players going in? And where to see them coming out at the end off match? If he could get a few signatures or such that would really be cool. Is that something the well players are known for? he’s a Man Utd fan and his mum took him last year old Trafford. where all the Man Utd players just walked past the fans. . and a wolves player signed his scarf for him.. he was over the moon.. anyways looking forward to visiting..any help would be greatly appreciated.. 🙏 Thomson

JKL was the one that looked most promising to me early on. However, he was like a rabbit in the headlights when we capitulated in Paisley and has barely featured since. Saturday was the best I’ve seen of JGR so far, although it’s hard to judge given how little St Mirren offered. If he copes with the Dundee Utd forward line this weekend then that will be a big sign of progress. Assuming JGR is the centre half that the club are pinning their hopes on, he could really do with an experienced head alongside him that reads the game well. Moorman might come onto a game but he’s evidently struggling to come to terms with the demands of the league.

I know......brilliant innit? 🤣🤣

And now he’s got a new manager Departed Manager: Kosta Runjaić (dismissed in November 2026 after a winless run of eight matches). Incoming Manager: Paolo Zanetti

Just watched the highlights again and still can’t believe the St Mirren defender done that for the PK. WTF was he thinking!!! No real danger and he deliberately does that. Their manager must be raging.

I kinda get that Jake is our player and JKL is a loan player, so we probably want to give priority to developing Jake as there is money in it for us. However, you still need to win football matches and when you go 6 defeats on the bounce conceding goals for fun, you think he might have been given a chance. Now we have a win and a clean sheet, I suspect it might become even more difficult for him to get game time. Of course, there is always the possibility tge manager see's something different in training that has caused him to stick with Jake / Moorman.

Anymore crap jokes and the Gestapo will be paying you a visit.😂

Yep that confuses me also. Even JKL and big Jake could be combination until mcginn fully up to speed. But will defo be jake and MM on Saturday as they have earned the reich....ehhhh I mean right 🤪

You think we've had a bad run, I see Lennon Miller was a starter at the weekend in their 5 - 2 defeat to the men in claret and amber. Udinese's last 8 games have been L L L L L L D L

It’s odd that JKL hasn’t had more games - he started well and like you mention has all the attributes . i thought he and Moorman were both decent together . Goven our defensive challenges o had thought a back 3 might help but there’s been no sign of that id certainly be keen to see JKL on the starting 11

Finally the gaffer said

This baffles me too. If he's under instruction to do that, then I can't imagine why. Also G-R was rather slow in passing out of defence on Saturday. Meanwhile Mr Supercool on the left is often ignored and we have no quick movement of the ball.

It wasnt just Saturday it's the same every game. He seems to have an aversion to passing to manny who always seems to be in acres of space to receive the ball.

For me Jake is the only CB we have that really seems to like a tackle and he is probably the best in the air. I thought Moorman was gonna be in that mould, but he really seems to have dropped off from the start of the season. Not sure if thats just a confidence thing or not. JKL looks the most comfortable with the ball at his feet and coming out from the back. Not really seen any evidence of physicality, albeit from a smaller sample size. McGinn certainly adds experience, as would McGhee, but Im not sure either of them are that physical either. I think your previous observations about the defence getting protection from the midfield are probably on point. We didnt seem to need to be that physical last season and that was with a backline of supposed right backs at times. I think if we get the balance of the team better in midfield and get back to controlling games a little better the physical aspect of the game will be less of a issue.

Whilst neither had a bad game on Saturday, on the basis of what Ive seen this season I'm not convinced they come close to last seasons defensive partnership. To me even a 35 year old Paul McGinn is better than both of them. However McGinn is not long term. If neither show much improvement between now and the January window I'd be looking to bring in others to beef up that area and perhaps find a central defender who can play it out from the back with a bit more pace. To be fair they tried to up the pace a bit on Saturday but JGR was still painfully slow moving the ball forward as the game went on, again trying to be fair players in front of him need to get into positions that make the quick play viable. He also isnt helped by the fact he has zero pace over the ground so if he fucks up a pass he will never catch a forward running away from him. Maybe for that reason he lacks the confidence to play the quick pass but its not all down to him thats the managers job to address not mine.

I'm wondering if MM and JGR is the right central defensive combination. Would either one benefit from playing alongside an experienced colleague like McGinn (possibly) or someone more physical in the Stephen Welsh or JKL mould. Whilst neither were overly troubled on Saturday in a pure footballing sense, both struggled badly against bigger more physical opponents in personal battles.