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If it wasn't for teams like us thinking outside the box, the Premiership would just be the same 12 managers rotating between clubs until one of them dies.

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Morecambe 4th bottom in league 1 so not sure why they are so keen.  I liked robbo when he first took over and liked him as a person but the signings further down the line cost him

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You never know if there's any other circumstances involved but I'm surprised robbo is coming back up the road so soon after leaving us,I thought he would have been looking at a long stay down south.thats a decent appointment for them considering they had spoke to the likes of brown and naismith.

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To be fair his managerial stock was never higher than it was up here with us from 2017 until about 2019.

Two Cup Finals in the same season, was in charge when David Turnbull broke into first team football, was linked heavily with the managers jobs at Hearts and Northern Ireland and, regardless of the circumstances, ‘finished 3rd’ and qualified for Europe with us in the curtailed 19/20 season.

He’s a good fit for the game up here and vice-versa, I can completely see why he’d be keen to come back to it.

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6 hours ago, GazzyB said:

Subbed off in the 41st minute too apparently.

 

Surely hideous man-management, just take her off at HT instead of that.

The perfect hat trick as well, right, header, left

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I can understand why St Mirren would be interested, his record up here is good regardless of what some may think. St Mirren goal every season is staying in the division and Robinson has shown he’s more than capable of doing that.

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49 minutes ago, Yorkyred said:

I can understand why St Mirren would be interested, his record up here is good regardless of what some may think. St Mirren goal every season is staying in the division and Robinson has shown he’s more than capable of doing that.

Except in his last 6 months with us...

I'm a fan of his as well but I'd be concerned if I were a Buddy. Poor last 6 months with us and didn't set the heather alight down south.

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At least Robbo will know a lot of the players, given he signed them for us! 

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1 hour ago, Yorkyred said:

I can understand why St Mirren would be interested, his record up here is good regardless of what some may think. St Mirren goal every season is staying in the division and Robinson has shown he’s more than capable of doing that.

When u getting yer StMidden season ticket if yer favourite gets the job 

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Stephen Robinson confirmed as manager of St Mirren.

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The last year he was with us it was brutal won about 8 games or so in the league a couple in the cup he was lucky to be at a club with a decent board cause he would have been sacked!

Left us in an utter mess in utter freefall and would have took us down if he stayed.

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He stayed with us a year, possibly two years too long imo.
 

I liked Robinson, he was a breath of fresh air in his first season after the awful era that was McGhee’s second spell and the Cup Final season was one of the most enjoyable we’ve had in the last decade.

His transfer business in the subsequent windows let him down badly though, albeit he was hamstrung by our scouting policy. Season 18/19 was eyebleedingly bad for the first part with us basically playing hoofball to a front line of Curtis Main and Conor Sammon, before he eventually brought Turnbull and Hastie into the side which ended up being the bright lights of that season. 
 

Had he moved on in summer 2019 or to Hearts when linked in the Autumn of that year it would probably have been best for both parties. I know some will point to ‘a 3rd placed’ finish in 2020 but we were poor for the majority of that season and our form from the winter shutdown to the covid abandonment was dismal and it seemed like a case of who was less likely to cut our own throats between ourselves and Aberdeen as to who would get 3rd. As it was the season was stopped hours before we were due to play Aberdeen and we ended ‘finishing 3rd’ by default. The less said about our 2020 transfer business and form until he left, the better.

But all in all, Robinson is a good guy and I wish him well.

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3 hours ago, C&A not the shop said:

Except in his last 6 months with us...

I'm a fan of his as well but I'd be concerned if I were a Buddy. Poor last 6 months with us and didn't set the heather alight down south.

When they were being linked with Steven Naismith or Scott Brown getting Robbo must seem like a lottery win. for their fans.

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14 minutes ago, MJC_mkII said:

He stayed with us a year, possibly two years too long imo.
 

I liked Robinson, he was a breath of fresh air in his first season after the awful era that was McGhee’s second spell and the Cup Final season was one of the most enjoyable we’ve had in the last decade.

His transfer business in the subsequent windows let him down badly though, albeit he was hamstrung by our scouting policy. Season 18/19 was eyebleedingly bad for the first part with us basically playing hoofball to a front line of Curtis Main and Conor Sammon, before he eventually brought Turnbull and Hastie into the side which ended up being the bright lights of that season. 
 

Had he moved on in summer 2019 or to Hearts when linked in the Autumn of that year it would probably have been best for both parties. I know some will point to ‘a 3rd placed’ finish in 2020 but we were poor for the majority of that season and our form from the winter shutdown to the covid abandonment was dismal and it seemed like a case of who was less likely to cut our own throats between ourselves and Aberdeen as to who would get 3rd. As it was the season was stopped hours before we were due to play Aberdeen and we ended ‘finishing 3rd’ by default. The less said about our 2020 transfer business and form until he left, the better.

But all in all, Robinson is a good guy and I wish him well.

If playing pish for the majority of a season is a catalyst for being punted GA better watch out. Over the piece SR did a very good job for us.

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2 hours ago, MJC_mkII said:

He stayed with us a year, possibly two years too long imo.
 

I liked Robinson, he was a breath of fresh air in his first season after the awful era that was McGhee’s second spell and the Cup Final season was one of the most enjoyable we’ve had in the last decade.

His transfer business in the subsequent windows let him down badly though, albeit he was hamstrung by our scouting policy. Season 18/19 was eyebleedingly bad for the first part with us basically playing hoofball to a front line of Curtis Main and Conor Sammon, before he eventually brought Turnbull and Hastie into the side which ended up being the bright lights of that season. 
 

Had he moved on in summer 2019 or to Hearts when linked in the Autumn of that year it would probably have been best for both parties. I know some will point to ‘a 3rd placed’ finish in 2020 but we were poor for the majority of that season and our form from the winter shutdown to the covid abandonment was dismal and it seemed like a case of who was less likely to cut our own throats between ourselves and Aberdeen as to who would get 3rd. As it was the season was stopped hours before we were due to play Aberdeen and we ended ‘finishing 3rd’ by default. The less said about our 2020 transfer business and form until he left, the better.

But all in all, Robinson is a good guy and I wish him well.

There was one season where he was saved by the performances of David Turnbull and Jake Hastie who were virtually unplayable.

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3 minutes ago, Winning by Name said:

There was one season where he was saved by the performances of David Turnbull and Jake Hastie who were virtually unplayable.

Saved by the players he coached and helped develop? Sounds like a recommendation.

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Just now, weeyin said:

Saved by the players he coached and helped develop? Sounds like a recommendation.

Really? It was them who were outstanding, not him. The first half of the year we were dreadfull - Turnbull was moved off the bench and Hastie was brought back from Alloa, if SR had such brilliant visionary and development skills why did he leave it to the eleventh hour? Especially in Turnbull's case who was clearly way above the level required.

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Things weren't going as planned, so he completely changed the system, brought a winger back from loan, and signed another one. He also made the decision to play Turnbull more, and it worked.

As bad as the first half of the season was, Robinson made the required changes to turn it around and he deserves the credit for that.

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3 hours ago, Winning by Name said:

Really? It was them who were outstanding, not him. 

Plenty of promising talents have been stalled or ruined by bad man management and bad coaching. Robinson might not be able to claim any credit for their natural talent, but he and his coaching staff played their part in shaping all the players we sold.

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3 hours ago, Winning by Name said:

Really? It was them who were outstanding, not him. The first half of the year we were dreadfull - Turnbull was moved off the bench and Hastie was brought back from Alloa, if SR had such brilliant visionary and development skills why did he leave it to the eleventh hour? Especially in Turnbull's case who was clearly way above the level required.

So you are saying that we can hire any old coach and that will work out as long as we have the players? Because by that standard, we should never need to sack any gaffer.

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Maybe Hastie was shite on loan because Alexander wouldn't let him be manager.

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8 hours ago, MJC_mkII said:

He stayed with us a year, possibly two years too long imo.
 

I liked Robinson, he was a breath of fresh air in his first season after the awful era that was McGhee’s second spell and the Cup Final season was one of the most enjoyable we’ve had in the last decade.

 

good observation  - completely agree about the last 12 months.  He ran out of ideas and really struggled, hence resigned.  

Had he left for a bigger job 12 months previous (NI job) he'd be hailed as one of the best gaffers we've ever had.   He did well for us over the piece, a good guy who did in the main did good things , eventually ran out of ideas and out of decent signings. 

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3 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

good observation  - completely agree about the last 12 months.  He ran out of ideas and really struggled, hence resigned.  

Had he left for a bigger job 12 months previous (NI job) he'd be hailed as one of the best gaffers we've ever had.   He did well for us over the piece, a good guy who did in the main did good things , eventually ran out of ideas and out of decent signings. 

Pretty much my view but he still wanted a pay off. He didn't just walk out the door without a deal.

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