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Yes, it's amazing how some laws of the game seem to have fallen into abeyance without anyone being told about it 😈. I see foul shies (apologies, age) regularly nowadays at our matches. Also, the authorities have allowed all these stramashes (God bless Arthur Montford) at corners and free kicks to proliferate to the point where it's almost impossible for a referee to spot all the infringements in the box at dead balls. All supporters of clubs outwith the OF is that the refs apply the laws fairly. We saw several examples of persistent fouls against us at Celtic Park on Saturday go unpunished, some of which should have resulted in a sending off, but didn't. It's interesting to note that some Celtic players do seem to be sent off in European games but rarely in Scotland, like Mr Maeda, IIRC. I have to say that, if the roles had been reversed with Longelo and Maeda, I doubt if we would have been given a penalty and a Celtic player sent off into the bargain at Celtic Park. Similarly, had Fadinger fouled Fernandez in the last minute of our match at Ibrox in December, would that appeal have been so airily and quickly waved away by the match referee? That's the reality of the game in Scotland, and has been for more years than I care to remember.

I was always against VAR because, as I said at the time, it was madness to think the same people making bad decisions on the pitch would somehow start making good decisions when they looked at video. It has turned out worse than I thought, because now they are intervening far more than the original claim of overruling "clear and obvious errors" and are practively refereeing games. When you add the ability to make decisions that change games in favour of big teams then the game, as they say, is gone.

Still to see this yet, but very much looking forward to it

Its not the law, or the wording of it. More the VAR intervention. As i said - for VAR to recommend a red it has to be clear and obvious. Is there enough evidence there to conclude longelo didnt simply make a mess of that? May have to agree to disagree, but not for me. And the fact the VAR check took as long as it did speaks volumes. For the record, if beaton had given a red straight away, i also wouldn't expect VAR to intervene.

It’s not necessarily the rules in Scotland that are the problem. It’s the misapplication or inconsistent application of them by the useless, untouchable twats employed by the SFA.

I wish they would also go back to calling shirt pulling as a foul. At the stage now where it’s, “well that wasn’t enough to give a penalty” so apparently there’s varying degrees of shirt pulling that are allowed that the referee or VAR officials have to make a judgement call on. BULLSHIT!! Pulling another players shirt is 100% a foul but the powers that be have decided to let some of that slide. Start calling it and they will stop. Another thing they let slide now is players blocking opposition run about 15 to 20 yards from the ball. Clear as day in the fifa rules, that is obstruction cause it’s not within playing distance of the ball. I’ve heard commentators say “well, he’s entitled to go anywhere on the field he wants”, well, no he isn’t and the obstruction rule covers that. FIFA's obstruction rule, officially known as " Impeding the Progress of an Opponent" (Law 12), prohibits moving into an opponent's path to block, slow down, or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance. It is deemed a foul if a player is not actively playing the ball. Instagram

Maeda has immunity. Game after game its foul, foul, foul, foul and action is rarely taken.

that was a brilliant insight into the team, season and club in general. I thoroughly enjoyed that. He never fails to impress me. for a guy to be able to speak in this way and come over so clearly when English isn’t his first language is utterly incredible. and Jens was quite good too (joke)

It's a simple enough rule in theory, unfortunately it comes down to making a judgement call about a player's intent which refs are never going to get right every time. In this case, Longelo wasn't even facing the ball half the time it was in the air from the corner, and by the time he was facing it there was no way he could play it as there was someone else in the way. So I guess that's why they decided he wasn't making a genuine attempt to do so.

Just in case anyone was wondering, and they're probably not, Willie McCallum and Bobby McCallum weren't related.

Hee! Hee! I doubt Mrs Dosser would agree 😈. I'm finding if AI doesn't "know", it just makes stuff up sometimes. Oh, wait.....

As long as they're not the Hibs psychos. 🤣

I thought Hibs fans preferred Spoons.

I can 100 percent accept that was a penalty but 100 percent that is not a red card if thats a red card then no match in world football should be being finishing with 22 players on the park at the end. And the fact I witnessed a Ox Chamberlain stay on the park after a horror tackle proves to me that paying for something that doesnt really work you tend to throw it away and VAR as we use it needs to be thrown right in the bin its refs backing up pal refs with terrible decisions. So reading the messages no we haven't been found out,no the bubble hasn't burst and I don't know what game some of the folk here were watching or listening to yesterday but we were firmly in the game until the Red Card.Its like folk on here are itching at the bit for us to get beat have a bad game so they can moan.

If beaton needs var to tell him it was a penalty given his unobstructed view of the incident , then maybe refereeing isn't for him. Cowardly bastard.

Just watched match of the day on I player and seen 4 worse examples of holding in the box in 4 different games. No fouls given no cards issued. Our referees and pound shop VAR are a complete and utter joke compared to down south.