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I think you are underselling the player on almost every level. I am not an expert on transfer fees but I would imagine that finished articles sell for more than their younger selves. Would Ronaldo's first couple of transfers be anywhere near his transfer fee to Juventus? Three goals in a WC is three goals. As somebody joked earlier, he scored two more than the entire Scotland team combined and they played lowly Haiti. How many Scotland players in history have scored 3 goals at a WC? You can't underplay that sort of achievement. Just was fantastic last season and had more of an impact than Miller did at any time in his Motherwell career. EJ is worth £10 million. Compare with Engels at Celtic. Just had a better season and look at the money Celtic have turned down for Engels Unfortunately Motherwell will never get £10 million for him because he plays for Motherwell but there are worse players that have commanded more. Look at the valuation of Fernandez at Rangers. Was there not talk of £18+ million for him? We need to be talking our players up not talking them down.

If I didn't already know I was too old to be wearing the new shirt, the music on the release video would have reminded me. I'm off to have a lie down and listen to some Jesus and Mary Chain.

Just is currently a better player than Lennon Miller. Udinese payed £4.5m for potential. Just is the finished article and has showed it on the world stage. Im not suggesting we get £10m for him. But we should at least be getting Miller level cash.

Are you MJC........Are you MJC........Are you MJC in disguise?? 🤪🤪

I’m not trying to undersell him. I rate him highly and I think he’s been outstanding for us. But I think there are two different arguments being mixed together here. One is: how good is Elijah Just? The other is: what would a buying club realistically pay Motherwell for him? Those are not the same thing in my view. On the Ronaldo comparison, I don’t think it works at all. Ronaldo’s Juventus fee came after he had become one of the greatest players of all time, won multiple Champions Leagues, won Ballon d’Ors, and had enormous commercial value. That wasn’t a “finished article” premium in the normal sense. It was an elite global asset changing hands. In normal football markets, clubs often pay more for younger players because they are buying future upside. That’s why Lennon Miller’s fee makes sense. Udinese were not paying £4.5m because he was a better player than Just today. They were paying for an 18-year-old Scotland international with resale potential. If Miller develops properly, he could become a £15m–£25m player. That upside is priced into the fee. With Just, it’s different. He’s 26. He’s much closer to the finished player. That makes him more reliable, but it also reduces the resale premium in my opinion. His career history matters too. Before Motherwell, he had played in Denmark across the first and second tiers, then in the Austrian second tier. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a very good player, but it is part of the evidence a buying club will use. Clubs won’t ignore seven or eight years of career data because of one excellent season and a few World Cup games. That's just a fact. I'm not saying that the World Cup doesn't raise his profile though, it absolutely does. Three goals at a World Cup is a brilliant achievement, especially for a Motherwell player. Nobody should dismiss that. But context matters there as well. Two came against Iran. The other was a consolation in a 5–1 defeat to Belgium, and New Zealand still went out bottom of the group. That is still impressive, but it is not the same as dominating a knockout tie against France, Brazil or Argentina. The Engels and Fernandez comparisons are also a bit of a stretch. Celtic and Rangers sell from a completely different position. They have bigger wages, European exposure, stronger bargaining power, longer control in many cases, and clubs in England are more willing to pay a premium for players coming out of them. Motherwell do not get Celtic or Rangers prices just because the player may be comparable on the pitch. I wish it wasn't the case, but it is. I also agree that we should talk our players up. But talking them up doesn’t mean inventing a market that doesn’t exist. I'm trying to look at this from the position of a club who can afford someone like Just, and how they'll see it. For me, £4m for Just would not be insulting. It would be a very strong fee for a 26 year old attacking player from a non-Old Firm Scottish club. If we could get £3.5-£4m with serious add-ons and a sell-on clause, that would be very good business. Could a Celtic buy him for £4.5m and later sell him for more? Possibly. But that’s exactly the point. Celtic would be able to do that because they can offer Champions League exposure, a bigger platform and a stronger selling market. Motherwell selling directly from Fir Park are operating in a different market. So I’m not saying Just isn’t a class act. He is. I’m saying “class act” and “£10m player from Motherwell” are two very different things.

I understand the hype coming off last season and all that, but I think we need to row it back a little as far as expectations go. I think people are putting far too much weight on a couple of World Cup performances and ignoring the bigger picture. Just is 26 years old and, prior to arriving here, his career trajectory was hardly that of a player clubs were lining up to spend huge money on. He spent years in Denmark moving between the first and second tiers, then had a spell in the Austrian second division, before ending up at what is seen as a mid-table Scottish Premiership club. Aye, he had a very good World Cup, but let’s keep perspective. He scored twice against Iran, then got a consolation goal against Belgium in a heavy defeat, and New Zealand still finished bottom of the group and went home early. That tournament absolutely raises his profile, but clubs don’t suddenly ignore 7 or 8 years of previous evidence because of three good games. The Lennon Miller comparison absolutely does not work for me either. Udinese paid for an 18-year-old with massive upside and potential resale value. Just is much closer to the finished article, which usually means lower upside and lower transfer fee, even if he’s arguably the better player today. If he was 20 and had just put in those performances, we’d be having a completely different conversation. But he isn't, so we're not.

I'm in favour of white shorts, they are our traditional short colour. Also the best strip design we've had in my lifetime had white shorts. However the overall design looks way too busy. Sponsors and logos plastered everywhere and just way too much going on. It's kinda like they said 'How can we make a 'tradition Motherwell kit' and give it loads of design features to make it modern and unique and then just kept sticking them on long past the point that it made sense. It's still better than two seasons ago but that's about the most positive thing I can say.

I agree with your logic Joe and would be looking to get at least £6m for him, but nowhere near £10m. He's proved his credentials, under pressure, at a major world tournament.

If you're looking for traditional, the hoop comes with white shorts.

Financial security is a bold statement to make in the context of a football club, they are not allowed to advertise Alcohol or Tobacco etc but gambling is fair game, put a print of a tiger on your shorts for a no doubt 6 figure wedge of cash is a no brainer for the club, free money.

My jokes are in preseason too, so you have to work for it.

It’s a bit busy and messy for me but I’m more concerned about how we play rather than how we look so, on we go. COYW!!!

I don't think the kids today could cope with Upside Down. 'What's that awful noise?' 'Scruffy hooligans' 'No tune'. etc.

If we're getting money they can put whatever the **** they like on it as far as Im concerned Ill still buy it. £65 compared to £110 for a Rangers top I'll take that any day.

Oh dear

Some folk will hate the shorts while others will think they are grrrrrrrrreeeeaaaaaatttttttttt! 🤪

I rarely agree with you but yup I don't like the white shorts, should be claret

Well, the hoop is a positive anyway.

White shorts 🤮 The rest is ok. A wee bit reminiscent of the Man City Kappa effort of mid 90s

A nice jersey but the sponsor kind of wastes it. And the white shorts ruin the entire kit as they always do. Not our worst effort with Macron but not a patch on last years cracker.

Did anybody else have that on their coupon, or just JT?

Fingers crossed it's not white shorts. I detest Motherwell strips with white shorts.

God, old age and forgetfullness. I can`t remember him at all.

At the very least with Just and the media commentators, repeatedly naming Motherwell over the last couple of weeks, the clubs profile has been raised significantly which should help with signings and sponsorship. On his transfer I wouldn’t be surprised if he follows JBA to France. JBA brought him to us and so why wouldn’t he want to take him now?

Well, I've finally finished my personal 100. A very hard and subjective task. Everyone will have different views but I took into account the number of appearances; number of goals scored (where applicable); international recognition; and trophy winners. It was especially hard to rate players I'd never seen in the flesh and those of bygone times, some of whom I hadn't heard of. I had to rely written accounts of our early players. The chances are, if I started again I'd come up with something slightly different. How do you rate someone who made many appearances for our club i.e. a stalwart such as Willie MacCallum against a brief but brilliant "shooting star" like Lennon Miller? Personal bias also came into it. Incidentally, Louis Moult came in at 101. 1 Hughie Ferguson 2 Bobby Ferrier 3 George Stevenson 4 Alan McClory 5 Willie McFadyen 6 Hugh Wales 7 Alan Craig 8 Ben Ellis 9 Willie Telfer 10 Johnny McMenemy 11 Johnny Johnman 12 Johnny Murdoch 13 John Blair 14 Andy Paton 15 Willie Redpath 16 Willie Kilmarnock 17 Archie Shaw 18 Johnny Johnston 19 Jimmy Watson 20 Archie Kelly 21 Johnny Aitkenhead 22 Joe Wark 23 Steve Kirk 24 Davie Cooper 25 Willie Rankin 26 Ian St John 27 Willie Hunter 28 Bert McCann 29 Wilson Humphries 30 Willie Pettigrew 31 Chris McCart 32 Jim Forrest 33 Bobby Graham 34 Dougie Arnott 35 Phil O'Donnell 36 Tom Boyd 37 Charlie Aitken 38 Pat Quinn 39 Andy Weir 40 Tommy Sloan 41 Ally Maxwell 42 Charlie Cox 43 Eli Just 44 Lennon Miller 45 Paul Lambert 46 Craig Paterson 47 Luc Nijholt 48 John Martis 49 James McFadden 50 Scott MacDonald 51 Tom Forsyth 52 David Turnbull 53 Steve Hammell 54 Keith Lasley 55 Stephen Craigan 56 Rab MacKinnon 57 Keith McRae 58 Darren Randolph 59 Joe McBride 60 Brian Martin 61 Martyn Corrigan 62 Colin Hampton 63 Donald Mcleod 64 John Gahagan 65 Duncan Ogilvie 66 Gary MacAllister 67 Stephen O'Donnell 68 Bobby Watson 69 Dixie Deans 70 Iain Gardiner 71 Tommy Coyne 72 KVV 73 Hugh McNeil 74 Craig Brown 75 Willie MacCallum 76 George Nicol 77 David Clarkson 78 Robert Stewart 79 Peter Millar 80 Bobby Russell 81 Willie McSeveney 82 Davie Whiteford 83 Bobby MacCallum 84 Pat Delaney 85 Stephen Pearson 86 Peter McCloy 87 Mio Krivocapic 88 Gregor Stevens 89 Graham Forbes 90 Francis McStay 91 George Robertson 92 Hutton Bremner 93 Bobby Roberts 94 Vic Davidson 95 Gordon Bremner 96 Tommy Mackenzie 97 Dick Little 98 Duncan Finlayson 99 Jackie Hunter 100 Walter Cowan