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Zinger! .... you've not lost your touch yet quite a pivot from the points I was making Your response is almost entirely conjecture. You've ignored the substance of my post and substituted a series of "what if's". That's your prerogative, but at least acknowledge that you're no longer arguing whether the Major Votes policy applies, you've moved on to speculating about how a future project might be delivered. Is that a sidestep or a stepover? It's certainly not a rebuttal. My post wasn't asking whether you prefer Dalziel Park or Ravenscraig, we're at either end of what is, a distinctly separate debate on this. You have came out supporting upgrading Dalziel Park as the more sensible and financially frugal option, and that's a perfectly valid poistion. The point I raised was about governance. If the club commits to a multi-million-pound project, does the Major Votes policy apply? That is the question you haven't answered. Instead, you've moved the discussion towards hypothetical costs, contaminated land and construction difficulties. Those are legitimate considerations, but they don't address whether the process that was introduced last summer should be followed or the major question marks over ownership and residual value of anything we do at Dalziel Park. As for the research point, there's a difference between evidence and speculation. I've looked at comparable projects, the wording of the policy, publicly available information and the wider context. Your response is largely built around "could", "might" and "possibly". Again, nothing wrong with raising risks, but let's not pretend that is the same thing as researching the issue. Ravenscraig was a steelworks during one of the least regulated industrial periods in this country's history. Of course there are areas where ground conditions may need assessed and have been. There are also thirty three former mine entrances around the Jeviston end. That's actual research. Equally, there are now housing developments on parts of the site, so the suggestion that the area is some unusable contaminated wasteland doesn't stand up. If there are areas unsuitable for buildings, then grass pitches are hardly the most challenging use of land and a good remedy. The reason Ravenscraig has stalled is far more complicated than your "contaminated" assertion. The 2008 financial crisis, the pandemic, political posturing and obstruction, delays around infrastructure, North Lanarkshire Council's handling of the site and the wider lack of investment in the area have all played their part. Halfords and Evans Halshaw were demolished a couple of years ago. The bridge under the railway was built. Where are the roads and roundabout it was supposed to facilitate? So yes, I've researched this considerably more than you have demonstrated. On the point about expertise, I actually agree with you. Motherwell FC does not have a construction team sitting on the payroll capable of delivering a project of this scale. Our chairman used to try and create a buzz about jeans and t-shirts yet he's knocking the football figurehead thing out of the park, I've seen nothing to suggest he won't gen up or delegate to more knowledgeable heads on the matter. That's why construction projects aren't run by football clubs. They employ architects, quantity surveyors, project managers, engineers and specialist contractors for the duration fo the project. No different to when the football department needs expertise, it goes to the market and recruits it. And nobody is suggesting cost pressures don't exist. Inflaton and supply chain issues are real. But projects are still being delivered. Glasgow has cranes everywhere. Developers, councils and businesses haven't stopped building; they have adapted, adjusted scope and found innovative ways to make projects work. I hope you appreciate that we recieve £33 for every adult OF ticket sold at present. We purchase materials at today's prices but in 20 years time with inflation running at 3.1% we receive a significant increase in revenues yet if we seek finance, its based on today's build cost. In 2046 following the past 20 years we're be charging £61. My post was about whether the club is following its own governance policy. Your response is about whether you think Ravenscraig is the right option. Those are two different discussions and by all means ignore the parts of my post you don't have an answer for, but at least acknowledge them for the benefit of the wider audience. Otherwise it gives the impression that you're engaging selectively with the bits that you find easiest to challenge rather than addressing the actual point being made. Although I think this is all moot, the desire to get a training ground complex green lit is to facilitate the demolition of the POD with little things liek the equalisation of season ticket prices throughout the home stands as minor tells. However, as a fan owned club we're doing this in reverse and being told what's happening rather than help mould it.

1) terrible pitch 2) 6-7 out injured with 2 more off injured 3) 3 youngsters on at end and Maswanhise playing full game after injury lay off 4) proud as feck, great result

Self entitled fannies.

If their whole team were denied visas, would we be awarded a 3-0 win by default? Because I might know someone who works in that department...

glad to see JT convert the PK but looks like Slattery had a coaching lesson with him before he left. He was annoying the hell out of me falling down way too much.

Clueless on crosses. Has he missed any? Thought he was our best player that half. Our press is disjointed. Main culprits JT Cookie and Voight

Hopefully we avoid a fine but it really is getting frustrating. Tifo displays and support great but need to reign it in a bit

Shut the feck up and get a 3-0 hjk prediction in quick 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Poulsen or Longelo for me. Goalie gets it.

And Johnny K back in action again.

Still unbeaten in competitive matches.

don't want to be a jinx, but i don't reckon they'd be much trouble for us with a better compliment of fit players Also a first 'correct score' for my AI score predictor.

This pitch is killing us. Abomination of a surface

You must have missed one 8n first half where he totally hesitated coming off line. Apart from that he has been excellent

Quite poor from Motherwell. Not able to hold the ball, not moving with any pace or precision, leaving the defensive flanks wide open and absolutely nothing in the final third. Happy that it is still 0-0, but I expect Helsinki will score eventually. We may have to take a 1 or 2 goal defeat here and recover it next week. Let's hope for better in the second half.

He's doing just fine. The hesitancy for ball first half almost costly but making great saves. Moormann and JGR are looking good partnership.

Personal view is he’s been one of the better players . seem to remember someone say I like my keepers to come for everything 😉

I thought we were at rugby park 😂

As long as he doesn't start talking sub shacks, death strikes and felony cards......

I will wait till after game. I dont want to jinx Alfred

My initial feelings were I was a bit sorry for him as he has been handed a sh1tty stick, an almost impossible job considering we’ve lost our best manager, best players, and our most experienced players are all injured and we have a brand new team. to say he’s surprised me is an understatement, he’s excellent in front of the media, probably better than jens and he seems to have had buy in from the players. Even Longelo was hugging him and laughing on Sunday? I’ve not ever seen Manny smile since he arrived at the club. of course I’m sure we’ll have a few dark days but I like the guy. I was worried that he was going to be a Swedish Cathro but he was a bit about him.

Yep, £8.48. Was £12 last week and I thought I read it was same again but it’s cheaper this week.

Gutting to lose arguably or best performers in Williams and Said for tonight. My hope is we hold on to anything really and be at full strength next week for the return leg. rip an arm off for a draw or a narrow defeat to keep it all alive. fkn Astro!!! Shouldn’t be allowed.

Apply now for Germany just in case.

My “mate” has stepped up 🥰 off to ML3 Upper Eddlewood ……stand up and sing !!!💔

What kind of research? The bit of land is everyone is looking at up at Ravenscraig has sat empty for close to 30 years now. There has to be a possibility that the reason nothing has ever been built on it is because the land is contaminated. Have you researched that? It's impossible to for anyone to accurately estimate price because the cost of materials and equipment is massively variable due to global instability and inflation. No one in 2019 could have predicted the cost of anything in 2027. Delivering a new main stand will be a very challenging project for the club. Delivering a stadium on a brownfield site requiring utilities, access roads, civil engineering and landscaping is far more complex. The club's non football operations are very simple we sell tickets, take our collectively agreed SPFL money and run a very small commercial operation. A single project that costs multiple times our turnover with no ceiling on cost and is beyond the expertise of anyone employed or involved with the club is an incredible amount of risk to take on. It's the future of our club, not an episode of Grand Designs.

At this point in time, compare AJ's interviews with the Hearts guy. I know who i would trust to progress our club.

The Record was reporting it, but seemed to be directly from an interview with Alfred. I work with a lot of people from different countries and continents and it's often a real pain to manage travel and visas. If there is a reciprocal arrangement between countries it's easier, but otherwise it can be a hassle, especially if you need something quickly African and Indian nationals have the most problems because there are so many scam agencies trying to rip people off with fake credentials that there are often lengthy delays while everything is verified. If we want anyone from our India office to come to the US the standard processing time for visas is around a year.