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How astute some of our fans are when describing the Board as amateurs, they are correct. They receive no pay for what they do, so, by definition, they are indeed amateurs. As to the complaint that the Directors are not experienced on the Board of a football club, I would ask how do you become experienced on the Board of a football club without being on the Board of a football club? There was a post by David recently regarding the recruitment policy process of the club. Whilst not everyone may have agreed fully with his proposal at least he took the time and effort to put forward an extremely in depth, well thought out and articulate analysis as to what he believed could be improved. Unlike the vast majority of the posts on here which are just negative criticism and could, possibly, at times be classed as bullying and/or trolling. Also for those who are no happy with the direction the Club is heading, there are a number of possible options available. Option 1 1. Join the Well Society 2. Put yourself forward to be a Director of the WS 3. Get elected 4. Be nominated to be the WS Director on the Main Board 5. Put forward your proposals for change Option 2 1. Be asked to join the Board of MFC due to your existing skills 2. Put forward your proposal for Change Option 3 1 Buy MFC 2 Do what you like as you now own it Or go with what you currently seem best at – being negative and criticising others.

Lots claiming to have followed the team/ football for years but still don't seem to have a f__king clue how squads and transfer windows work. Let me spelL it out to the angry idiots clambering for more and more forwards. We’ve scored 3 fewer goals than the team in 3rd but conceded 15 more. maybe the management team have concluded we can use the 6 forward players in first and development squad plus attacking midfield to get the goals but maybe, just maybe, the defence needs some better options. Yes it would be great to get an established striker who has been banging them in consistently at Scot Prem level and wants to try a new experience playing in front of a bunch of roasters (not you ppower obviously as you’ve already fkd off) but there probably aren’t many about. it’s all very well having an opinion but there are so many totally deluded on this forum 🫨

Hi Folks Thought I would have new topic for this. I think we have all had our say over the past few days and 24 hours especially. Everyone entitled to their own opinion and as long as constructive and not getting personal with folk it's all healthy. I have my concerns especially after transfer window. The signings I think will be good but it's up front where I am worried but we just have to wait and see. We are currently 9th and in a lot healthier position than Livi. Ross Co game midweek massive and a win would be great especially against that walloper Adams. Tomorrow will be very tough against a very good side at the moment. However..........as fans we need to create a great atmosphere. If negativity in the stands starts it then transforms onto the pitch and players then get tense, heads drop etc etc. yes I know they get paid more than a lot of us but are still human beings. Getting told "get off, yer s***e, retire" don't help......(mind you that sounds like me doing stand-up) 😜😜 We see where we are at end of season. Kettlewell contract till end of season. If we go down he won't be retained. If we stay up then he maybe gets more time and hopefully learns and becomes better. I don't know the answers or outcomes but it is never an easy ride being a Well fan. Let's all unite and get behind the team and hopefully finish this season on a high. COYWWWWWWWWW

This. The KVV thing is on the other clubs, not us. We had a value and stuck to it, and that was the right thing to do.

Well we're supposed to be a Community Club and as much as you might not like it, that includes women. Why stop there though; why don't we do away with the walking football team, the power chair football team and all the other Community based projects and put all the money saved there into the first team squad. We can't have it both ways.

I see the curry club over in Pie and Bovril have been slating this forum. Quite ironic as many of them were having meltdowns last night that would put this thread to shame. I just find that an odd place as many of them enjoying being bedfellows with fans of other clubs. Anyway it has been quite a frustrating window esph with the injuries and recalls but in saying that if we managed to get another forward in I would have been quite content with the business that we have done.

I fail to see why we're still struggling to appoint a CEO? Do the board not read these forums. All the candidates they need are right here

We've got out of dodge a lot of times. We just need to keep the faith. One game at a time

Presumably he suffered that injury whilst signing his extension clause for next season....

I get that a forum is for all opinions and we can't all be positive but by God the last 24 hours have been negativity central. Some people really do have sad lives who just moan at anything. See the arseholes at your work that non stop say they hate their job moan at everything are generally also shite at their job. The same applies here in their football knowledge and so called support of their team. That guy/gal yesterday who said he hadn't been in 10 years but on moaning. Holy fuk that summed those sort of people up .

The clubs on a 'fire the manager cycle' - Aberdeen, Hibs, ourselves haven't really solved any of their issues. It's almost as if it's done to appease the fans rather than address the real issues.

Cheers pal, I like a balanced viewpoint where I think P and B will suit me There are certainly things wrong with the club. No escaping that. But to deal with people who can only see black is like speaking to a Tory about the qualities of say SNP or labour or vice versa. Completely deaf. take care and all the best David

Problem with that is that we havent had a manager you liked since Ive been on here.

Joining Celtic was the crime.

This thread only exists to taunt us 😪

Very noble but it might have been a good idea to actually sign a striker because principles aren't going to get us any more goals than Ollie Shaw.

Because the people in charge of the club don't think Van Veen was worth the outlay. We offered what we deemed to be what he's worth. Other clubs decided to offer more.

I never get why people talk about P&B vs here as if its not about 60% the same people

That's the first interview I've genuinely enjoyed in ages. He seems like an honest and knowledgeable guy.

An interesting observation. I have made it clear that I am very much in the "sack him" camp, but it feels like he has a large % of our supporters who think we should stick with him. Those calling for his head are in the minority imo.

I do get what you're saying. I know you need a range if opinions but some of the stuff on here?? One poster is calling our players c*nts and the manager a tit...I know it's not the Sunday School but would you like someone talking to your family like that? Maybe don't answer that We are meant to be on the same side

Throughout the footballing world there won’t be many who have solely become proficient having set out to run a football club. ‘these are the people’ never signed off on any player - they provided a football department a budget to work with. Burrows was a one off & someone who shielded those making decisions behind the scenes. Expect those who repeat the failure to appoint will be the same when the next in the role doesn’t have the social media presence of those before them. Summer and winter clearouts are de rigueur in Scottish football. Would be great to change that cycle, I’m not seeing it happen anytime soon.

Unfortunately in modern football exorbitant wage demands are the norm and at a level we cant compete in so the clubs unwillingness to pay them is irrelevant. As for the current custodians of our club I've no doubt they are all successful business people in their own fields but not at running a football club, these are the people who signed off on players like Obika, Souare, Shaw, Wilkinson etc⁸ costing the club decent money no doubt on wages etc for nothing in return. we're now on our 3rd manager since Robinson left, we can't seem to appoint a CEO to replace Burrows, our recruitment strategy is a shambles and year on year its getting worse, its a constant downward spiral. I hope the recent moves to attract additional investment are successful as that may be the catalyst needed to get the club back on track to building a stable team, instead of the summer and winter clearouts we seem to now be getting.

He also improved KVV regardless of what his detractors on here say. Just look at Kevs body language before SK and whats happened subsequently. There is no doubt he is able to connect with players and get them working for him. See also our last minute winners and equalisers this season. Our squad are still with him despite everything thats gone on.

The thing is, he's shown that he's got something about him as a coach. He's certainly done more with the likes of Bair than I ever thought possible, and when an individual (or coaching team) can coach a player to the point where he's defying the analytics and numbers, he's definitely got something about him.

As I said, I'm fairly sure they're using analytics to some degree. I certainly don't believe they're still operating like they were in the 90's. But I just can't see a way in which they're being used correctly. Or to its potential. When it comes to analytics, you can usually tell if they're being used due to patterns and trends that are visible in the actions of the companies using them after a period of time. I've looked long and hard, and for the life of me, I can't see anything from our transfer business that would suggest they're implementing them. This is why I've long believed that any issues we have at the moment most likely sit with the recruitment department more than anything else. As you say, the people running the club aren't idiots. They're certainly not amateurs. And the club is in a reasonably healthy position financially. Kettlewell has proven that he's got something about him as a coach as well. Which leaves one particular area. In my opinion anyway.

You do realise the use of data analytics has been around the club for a few years? It’s nothing new. How they are applied is what’s up for debate.

World of a difference being skint and not willing to pay exorbitant demands. As for your closing statement - often repeated yet, nothing constructive offered. A lack of understanding prevails also. Plenty of business acumen amongst these well meaning amateurs you speak of. Back on track to where? Club accounts clearly show the club as being stable. Financial climate has changed immeasurably and the well meaning amateurs have recognised that & fielding opportunities for investment latest interest earlier this week for example.

I don't know if sacking another backroom staff and manager is the answer. What we've seen during this window is partly due to the fact we've been handing payouts to entire backroom teams like nobody's business. Also, if the club is being run according to what people say on internet forums, we're in more considerable trouble than anyone could imagine. Truth is, if we can maintain 9th spot, or even 10th, it's job done. Come the summer, it could be time for a discussion about the manager, but I can't see it being before then unless we hit a significant tailspin.

Yeah, he played great in the Scottish Cup Quarter Final Replay against Dundee United at Fir Park and scored in that game as well. We actually tried to sign his old team mate Danny Cadamateri but we were gazumpted at the last minute, as per.

No guarantee Van Veen was ever interested in coming back here.

Not gonna disagree with that. My response was more in relation to letting strikers go before we got replacements in. I clouded it a little by making reference to Obika, because he is still with us. You are correct. He should never have been given 2 years. 6 months like Souare would have been fine given Mandron apparently knocked us back (not that I wanted to keep him anyway). If we go into the second half of the season with the strikers we have, then absolutely, its a failure. But it grinds my gears when you get post after post calling the manager clueless, out out his depth etc. Pretty sure SK knows what we have isnt enough. Pretty sure he knows we need at least 1 more striker in and that he has been trying like fuck to get one, because Im pretty sure he knows his job depends on it. The thought that he has been sitting on his arse watching all this unfold and doing nothing is for the birds. We are where we are due to other clubs being able to outbid us for players and the boards reluctance to break our wage structure. You can argue all day long about the rights and wrongs of that, but its not down to Kettlewell. Similarly with the barbed comments about full backs. SK has been getting slaughtered for playing SOD at RWB and for having a lack of width in the team and no cover for Gent. It looks like he has addressed these issues, but because we havent got a striker in, suddenly we have too many full backs. Its not an either or. You can recognise both weaknesses in the team and try to address both. FWIW, I do agree with your recent posts about this board needing a range of opinions, both negative and positive and I am aware of the fact that I am regarded as being firmly in the "Happy Clapper" brigade. Thats not to say, I dont see anything wrong with the club, some of the decisions taken, performances etc, but when you are swimming in a sea of negativity someone has to provide the ying to the yang.

If he can fool all our trained medical professionals into thinking he's injured, I know who I'd be letting go.

Correct. Folk need to realise we`re skint. We had to get players out, before we could even make an approach for anyone. If they then don`t want to accept what wages we can afford, then it`s not the managers fault. It`s the Motherwell world we now live in folks. Depressing that Killie and St Mirren can out manouvre us finacially, but that`s the reality.

I'm past the KVV thing now as Killie are throwing silly money at it. Maybe we'll pull a rabbit out of the free agent hat, or announce something today. Think Nicholson will be good in terms of attacking threat. Hopefully Vale brings something to the table.

Its been a decent window as a whole, Like the Nicholson and Halliday signings. The loans are all punts so here's hoping they do well and we'll see what Elliot can offer once he's fit. But i do feel we're still light up top and lacking an experienced CB to organise the 3

Definitely the worst pant wetting January window I've seen. I do consider some of it over the top. I will wait and see what the signings do before signing our demise. Certain facts still remain St J, Ross County and Livingston haven't exactly strengthened to any great degree and from the outside still basically look shite.

Perhaps it won’t be a popular opinion, but from this distance it looks like the unpleasant truth is that we currently have a budget which is below that required to survive long term in the Premiership. If this doesn’t change then it is a matter of “when” not “if” we find ourselves in the Championship. It looks as if we have been trying to do transfer business at a level that just doesn’t exist and therefore it is hardly surprising that we have failed to fill the obvious holes in our squad. Fair play to those involved for not squandering our limited resources on dead wood and filler but anyone can now see that we are running on a squad so thinly spread that any injuries or suspensions will make selection beyond interesting. Maybe that is just how things are in Scottish football and the Championship, or below, is our financial level. I like the idea of fan ownership, but it needs to be sustainable and the cringe inducing begging email suggests that those in charge have accepted that this is not the case. Perhaps we need to accept this too.

We have 2 fit strikers (for the time being) so we are pretty much forced to play one up front, with one attacking option on the bench, and pray to God that no one gets injured or suspended, or that we have to make tactical changes during a game. Not addressing that issue is a total failure on the part of those that's job it is to build our squad. They have had plenty of time to do something about beireth, shaw , and Wilkinson going, but we dragged it to the last minute and it bit us on the arse. They are also responsible for signing obika, Shaw and Wilkinson. I'm fine with the other signings we've made, but we now have a bunch of full backs who might as well cross the ball to each other.

Your argument would make sense if we signed some experienced central defenders, but the reality is we have the same central defenders and a shitload of fullbacks.

This is it. Everyone keeps going on about stability but there fuck all we have seen that suggests we had it in the first place. "Canny keep sacking managers" aye, but doesnt mean we need to stick with one thats clearly in over his head.

For me we dodged a bullet with KVV, he's been shit at Groningen since he left in the summer, got his deal on past glories which he is very unlikely to repeat, but fair play to him for cashing in. This window has highlighted just how skint we are, we get the players we can afford, ie those on realistic wages or favorable loan deals, plus is coming to play in the Shire an attractive option for some. My main concern is that in 5 months time we will go through this whole nonsense again with another rebuild , we need stability and time to build a team, but only time will tell if we learn from previous mistakes and for me I don't think the current structure/ governance etc at the club is up to the challenge.

Folk will try to dress this window up in many different ways, but I don't see how it can be described as anything other than a predictable failure. I've had it with Kettlewell and Daws. And the Board. We're going nowhere forward with any of them at the helm.

A full back on loan from Cardiff

Our 7th fullback signing of the season. Kettlewell does have a wee bit of Lloyd Christmas about him.

What are you the inquisition.

Seen more Motherwell games than you have had hot dinners. Was a season ticket holder for 25 years. No longer. You probably don't remember what a good Motherwell team looks like.

Hey. Someone asked the question I answered it. So feck off.

To be honest if that's the best we can sign we should not be in the Premier League. Total farce of a club. No CEO, no money, a hard core support of about 4000. To think we used to be a credible force in Scotland. Those days are gone and will not return.