santheman

I've been paying into the WS from the start and have increased my contributions a couple of times but tbh I don't have a clue about how much I've actually paid in through the years. This new app will at least tell me that and might even encourage me to increase my contributions again so from that point of view alone its a great step in the right direction despite what all the WS naysayers are bitching about on social media Hopefully the next announcement will be some inward investment.

That's what happened last time so why not put a couple of cops on each door. There were enough of them standing at the side of the stand long before the game started scratching their arses doing nothing. Hopefully lessons have been learned and it doesn't happen a 3rd time because you can be sure the SPL will be looking for answers if they're not already.

Caldwell reply makes perfect sense and glad that more measures have been put in place. Maybe an additional measure could be to put stewards on the access stairs so that those with tickets for the upper level are directed there and not allowed to the lower level. Easier said than done though.

Maybe I'm being a bit stupid here but if every fan has to go through a turnstile which presumably registers the entry then the club should be able to tell exactly how many fans have entered through the turnstiles at any given time?. So unless there was other incidents where fans entered the ground illegally that we dont know about then it doesn't add up. Another part of the problem is that all the wee hangers on want to sit near the green brigade which understandably creates problems in that particular area but doesn't explain why the rest of the footwells were overcrowded. Once they're in the ground I would imagine it's near logistically impossible to turf them out so more robust checking of tickets before entry would help alleviate the problem or even reverting to paper tickets which would speed up the process by not having to check phones etc. I'm sure some kind of security measure could be added to the paper tickets so that they couldn't be forged and any attempt to do so picked up by the scanners. As I said once they're in the ground it's too late.

7106 maybe with about 2000 away fans. Maybe they'll be able to start repaying their covid loan now.

A lot more interesting and radical than my effort. I think the main barriers to redeveloping FP would be the cost and the massive upheaval and disruption to games possibly requiring ground sharing somewhere for 1/2 seasons while any building work is carried out unless it could be done in such a way we were able to continue to play at FP and maintain revenue streams. Dont think it'll happen in my lifetime but it's interesting to speculate and gives us something else to argue/talk about.

I wonder what the long term plans are for Knowetop Primary. The councils are offloading buildings and land all over Scotland as budget cuts take effect. If(and its a big if) the land it sits on were to become available at some point in the future would that be a viable proposition to build a new main stand there and effectively move the Hunter Stand to where the O'Donnell stand is just now. Probably not feasible or practical logistically or even affordable but could be something worth thinking about as a possibility in the long term should a move to Ravenscraig be ruled out completely.

2 buses filled hoping to fill 9 in total apparently.

Club 100 charging £17. Thought the club would undercut that or at least match it.

Had a wee chuckle at that post on FB I must admit. Its actually quite worrying at the amount of our supporters who don't understand the structure of the club. Some of the responses are what you would expect if we were fighting a hostile takeover. Reads like Executive Board=good guys WS Board= ******s I despair sometimes.

Just what I thought. A bit like the Tories electing a new leader who later turns out to be a member of the Labour Party. A bit far fetched but you get the drift.

Added the caveat about the 2nd yellow after my initial post so don't know if you replied before you saw it but he was definitely talking to someone before dishing it out. As you say I'm not complaining and it makes a pleasant change to see decisions going for us.

Yet both were reviewed by VAR and given?? The 2nd yellow not as obvious but he was talking to someone on his mic before dishing out the card so I'm assuming it was the VAR team or at the very least the linesman to confirm his decision.

Strange Morton is the preferred loan club considering the way Imrie sets his team up and is all about 100% effort and closing players down and that is what seems to be lacking in Stupas game. Might be the exact reason he's going there to learn the dark arts right enough.

Just imagine what this place will be like if we get beat on Friday night. It's actually getting quite depressing at times coming on here especially after a game and I now tend to avoid it like the plague.

Trust Steelboy to find a negative out a positive

Aye something as simple as a message on the online platform to that effect. Not every kid carries ID though.

The problem seems to stem from youngsters who turn up at the game having bought tickets online then getting knocked back because they can't prove their age at the gate. Surely then the club could come up with some sort of register where if you're 14-16 say, you register with the club providing proof of your D.O.B and emergency contact details, (important if someone takes ill during the game for instance) An online account could then be set up by the club and some kind of ID card issued to be shown to ticket staff and stewards that would avoid the majority of the scenes we currently witness at the turnstiles. Not foolproof by any means and there would be a cost and some effort required by the office staff but surely something worth looking into. Assuming there's no real problem if they have season tickets??.

I'm sure all the CEOs of the clubs meet up regularly so that's something that should be on the agenda. Its daft having different ages at different clubs because it just causes confusion

That's what I said, 14 years old and above can be unaccompanied.

Truthfully I don't know but I assume it's up to each individual club to set what they think is an appropriate age to meet the safeguarding guidelines. Don't know about other Scottish clubs but Man Utd don't let any under 14s in but Fulham is under 16 for example that's why I'm assuming it's up to individual clubs but I could be wrong. I used to get dropped off at home games when I was 9 but that was in the 60s but the world's a different place now. Authorities overreacting? Possibly but that's a social and political argument. Personally I think 12 is about the right age.

My understanding is that it's 14 years and above. Now it's public knowledge and we know the legal reasons behind it, can the ones who are maybe borderline(ie look young for their age) not just bring some form of ID with them then we don't have the situation where they're denied entry by the stewards or is that too simple.

I would guess that it would take circa 6k pw to secure his services. Do we really want to splash that kind of cash.

Considering I was talking to the doorman in Club 100 and witnessed the whole thing along with about another 100 people then yeah maybe they should have.

I believe it all stems from the Partick Thistle game when there was some kind of altercation after the game down by the Steelworks and a number of them were lifted by the polis. They also chased a Thistle fan who had their drum into the ticket office, scared the shit out of the office staff, grabbed the drum off the wee guy then tried to take it into Club100 and were told to bolt by the doorman. I imagine it was something to do with one or both of those incidents Youthful exuberance????