santheman

Yep done that. I'll see what happens before Thursday.

Anyone know if all the emailed voting papers should be out today or if it will be over the course of a few days? Not received mine yet☹️.

McMahon would probably claim the casting vote.

100% this. As you say here and P&B are pretty much on the same page so while it's good to have a healthy discussion, we're already preaching to the converted. It's X and FB where we need to win the battle by persuasion and encouragement to ask those with a different opinion to yours to listen to both sides of the argument. I've had a modicum of success on that but its frightening to realise just how ill informed some of our fans are about how the club is actually run on a day to day basis and the difference between the Executive Board and the WS.

2 choices. I either go and support my wee team and stop my DD to the WS in protest or I accept the democratic vote and get behind the team, increase my DD and hope that everything EB promises comes to fruition. Probably the 2nd as I couldn't walk away after 50 odd years of supporting my team but a lot of fans maybe would.

Yes it does🤣

There's one thing certain and that's politics and religion should be nowhere near a football forum. All it causes is arguments.

Hopefully not in block E

See the last day has me worried. Already there is a definite split in the support that is in danger of becoming acrimonious (if it isn't already) which will do us no favours at all down the line. Thankfully it's in the main respectful on here and P&B but the signs are there on other platforms that this could turn really nasty. At the end of the day it's down to who you trust most with the future of our club and I know who that is for me but I totally respect the fact that others might not agree including some of my close 'Well supporting friends (not many I might add) I will however do my best to bring them round to my way of thinking.

First reaction. Very detailed and well put together(as you would expect) but doesn't really address all of the issues highlighted here and P&B with the exception of what looks like a promise not to increase their shareholding beyond what they have stated by including covenants preventing this.

The only time I see anything like this is when a company is in serious financial difficulties and someone comes in with a ridiculous takeover/merger offer which is accepted because nothing else is on the table and they're desperate and have no choice which is as far removed from our situation as it can get.

Aye Some people need to wake up to the fact that everything in this proposal is loaded in his favour. Yet there's still some who are saying "but it's money we wouldn't otherwise have" without realising the ramifications or totally dismissing what the WS have published. If I go by my circle of friends who are mostly WS members and who I gauge as a typical cross selection of ages and abilities then I think this will get kicked into touch.

Think we need to see what the result of the vote is first. If EB's proposal is kicked into touch then I would imagine one of two things will happen The Executive board either spit out the dummy and leave the WS to it or they admit defeat and work with the WS to implement their ideas.( I know what my money would go on). If EB's proposal wins then we're into different territory altogether and I fear for the survival of the WS in its present form and can see a lot of acrimony surfacing from within the club and the fans. Would the WS call an EGM to overturn a democratic vote if it didn't go in their favour and risk an even bigger split in the support? Doubt it.

In a nutshell👌

I'm currently having an online spat with someone who still thinks EBs offer should be accepted. His reasoning is "At least he's put a figure on his investment all the WS have given us is a load of things theyre hoping will happen" I'm about ready to punch my screen in.

CEO/Chairman dual role? Could do a lot worse.

Apparently there's 2 mailing lists. One for the weekly newsletter and one for member communications. I was on the newsletter list but not the other most important one so best emailing the WS to see if you're affected as well.

I'm getting f*** off Barmack vibes from that.

That must be one of the most one sided highlights I've seen in a while. Other than our goals you would think we were never in their half.

I have high hopes for Brian Caldwell once he has the shackles of the current Executive Board removed. I think once that happens the collaborative working arrangements that we all want might just become a reality.

Obviously finding the traditional Scottish pre season a bit tough.

There's lots of different scenarios that could happen and hardly anyone apart from on here and P&B has highlighted all the potential pitfalls. I'm hopeful that all of the issues will be covered by the WS statement and that will filter down onto all the social media platforms and maybe then this half baked plan will get the scrutiny it deserves from a wider audience. Someone over on P&B suggested that instead of preaching to the converted on here we should be concentrating on taking this message to FB and X where the majority of our fans seem to lurk and debunk some of the false information going the rounds. Might not be a bad idea.

Haven't spoken to anyone yet who can answer that but the romance of some American investing in the club has certainly swayed a few people who aren't looking beyond the headline grabber into the actual detail of the offer. The same ones also seem to think that we need investment at any cost (thanks Mr McMahon)and as his is the only offer on the table we should just take it. I have a few 'Well supporting mates in that group and have done my best to convince them it's a bad deal with some success, but I think until the WS come out with their plan some are still going to think that EB's proposal is the way forward. Hopefully that will give me the ammunition I need to convince the remaining EB fanboys in my circle otherwise. Its actually frightening how many of them had no real knowledge of the WS, how many members it has and how much funds it has raised. Pretty sure I'm not alone in that.

Have go agree with that. I think the longer this goes on the worse it's going to get so it's important that the WS get their proposals out there sooner rather than later. Appreciate they're all volunteers and have put an enormous amount of work into it but the longer this drags on I fear the division and acrimony amongst our fans will only get worse. I only hope what they do eventually publish blows what EB is proposing out of the water.

Gone from detesting it to liking it then hating it to loving it. It's that kind of strip, splits opinion right down the middle.