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1 minute ago, texanwellfan said:
I read it as they deserved. to win because they came into the game with a plan and left with three points. So well played Dundee. It was up to us to break them down and we just couldn’t do it today. Another day we might have.
So by that theory every game you don't win you deserve to lose? don't agree. Dundee didn't deserve to win today.
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2 minutes ago, ppower said:
Spot on. Football is about winning things. We like all the teams outside of the bigot brothers have only two cups we can win. So would I swap our season for St Mirren. You better believe I would.
Silverware is permanent , form and league status are transient.
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We were a bit off it today but fort the life of me I cant believe folk saying Dundee deserved to win. They had two efforts on goal and scored with both. One being an absolute gift. By any measure of all statistics today we didnt deserve to lose even as below par as we were.
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4 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:
Problem is we dont have limitless money, so the McLean wont be going anywhere unless we move altogether. Far more pressing issues.
The McLean isnt without its problems, but I quite like the quirky nature of it. Gives the ground a distinctive look.
Also allows us to milk the ugly sisters without having to share your matchday experience with them! 😉
Correct it wont change , just a pipe dream. I don't do quirky 😆I prefer symmetrical stadiums that don't look like they have a different style stand for each day of the week, like Fir Park and Pittodrie.
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22 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:
Whats wrong with the McLean stand, thats probably the best of the 4 ?
For me Its an eyesore and completely out of sync with the rest of the ground. Same as Pittodrie's beach end. If we are going to develop the ground lets make it look like a decent venue.
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Good update from Kyrk Macmillan.
If I had free reign and limitless money to upgrade Fir Park, I'd fill in the corners , remove the top tier of that South Stand Monstrosity, New Main Stand and new roof on the East Stand. The filled corners could compensate for the loss of the top tier of the South Stand
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11 hours ago, Jonesy said:
That would be a start but doesn't solve how anyone is getting there when there's no bus and the train stations are at least 30-40 minutes walk away.
What about if all these other pubs start closing because they lose out on all the passing trade instead now stuck in the middle of nowhere, half way to Cleland, every other week?
There's much more to ripping a club out of its community than just making sure we have a decent pub incorporated and some office blocks to rent 365 days a year.
Motherwell are a business, its not their responsibility to ensure local pubs remain profitable and stay open. Motherwell need to look after their own finances. I take the point on transport.
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2 hours ago, Jonesy said:
The only bit of land worth moving to Ravenscraig for is right behind the college, where the new railway bridge is and where Airbles Road is about to be extended through. That way everyone's pre/post match routines pretty much stay the same. You're more or less the same walk from the local pubs to there than you currently are to Fir Park. Anything other than that and you're talking a minimum 20 minute walk from a pub and at least 30 minutes from the train stations (probably minimum 40 minutes), with no transport links cutting through at all currently.
I had this conversation with a recently departed Society board member and his answer was "drive or get the bus", but if people are in the habit of walking to Fir Park or getting a pint before/after the game they're not all of a sudden en masse going to start driving every week and the only bus currently is a mini bus to the sport centre once an hour. Unless the club was to provide it for free at the time, but even then...
There's also the strong chance of missing out on that ideal bit of land and ending up in Carfin or closer to Cleland rather than Motherwell.
Not for me.
We should be incorporating better bars into any new stadium so folk don't need to walk from a pub and not putting that valuable money into the club. Anything has got to be better than the piss poor Cooper Bar that currently operates a one in one out policy if you don't arrive 2 hours before kick off.
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Just looked at the Dundee ticket sales for the away end, it's looking good, think this will be an impressive away support.
For anyone who hasn't been in a while beware the peaking restrictions.
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17 minutes ago, dennyc said:
I was pleasantly surprised. I kind of expected a heartless, concrete ground but not so. Still areas for improvement but a better experience than at other comparable new builds. Finance clearly defines what we could achieve but it will be interesting to learn how much a proper refitting of Fir Park would cost in comparison to a new build. Especially if the Local Authority was able to provide the land at no cost to MFC. Folk living in the area will know far better than me whether there is council land lying vacant which could be utilised. MFC are an asset the Authority should be proud of and willing to support.
I do understand that many fans have a sentimental outlook where Fir Park and our history is concerned. I respect that view. But that approach by previous Boards has contributed to the situation we now find ourselves in. And to the increased cost of now finding a sustainable solution.
I agree Fir Park is a money pit and anything that lessens the money we have to pay for ground maintenance is welcome , as is the chance to have very good corporate facilities and avenues for raising more money 7 days a week, something for which Fir Park seems limited.
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10 hours ago, dennyc said:
I went to the Falkirk Dundee Utd game and was impressed with what I saw in the main stand. An excellent view, spacious seats, well under cover and catering facilities that put Fir Park to shame. Think a smaller version of the Hampden set up but still with several kiosks and a Club shop. Easily accessible and no lengthy queues blocking off toilet access. Talking of which, numerous toilets, wide corridors and staircases. So no crushing at full time despite a full house.
Hospitality on an upper tier but not infringing on us peasants. Stacks of pre bookable car parking for home and away fans. A good income generator I imagine. Did take a wee while to exit the car park though but nowhere near as frustrating as at Perth.
Cannot comment on what the away stand offers fans as I was on holiday when we last played there.As a POD season ticket holder, the set up I saw at Falkirk was far superior to the facilities on offer at Fir Park. Both the POD and Hunter Stands need a massive upgrade and whether that is possible given space limitations and likely disruption I have my doubts. If it can be done, fair enough. Let’s see what the study reveals.
Where Falkirk do fall down is in having stands on three sides only which does feel weird. Even worse than Accies in my opinion. Why they have no stand on one side I have no idea. But other than that I would happily move to such a Stadium. As you suggest, the quality of any new facility would have to be up to scratch but done correctly it would be fine. A site where neighbouring housing did not impact the construction of the stands would be a huge leap forward.
of the new builds , for smaller clubs in Scotland, Falkirks is probably the best but with the obvious down side of only three stands and open corners but the viewing positions are excellent.
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1 hour ago, weeyin said:
It's not about the location, although transport etc. is important. It's about the quality of the new facilities.
Do we want what Falkirk, St Mirren or St Johnstone have? Even that would be a stretch financially, but I find it pretty uninspiring - probably the opposite of a Luddite, as I'd want something more modern, hi-tech and sustainable.
Id take Falkirk's Stadium , obviously with 4 stands and the corners filled in. You would get a great atmosphere in such a ground but the costs would likely be prohibitive. Falkirk's feasibility study for a 4th stand similar to the other stands revealed cost in the region of £6 million, so a full stadium you are easily looking at £20/£25 million and we just cant finance that, sadly.... or could we? the sale of Fir Park for housing would realise no more than £3 million at current commercial valuations. We'd really need to get the £20/£25 million down to the region of £10/£15 million to make commercial financing over 30 years potentially viable, but the Revenue streams would need to increase to pay the near £1 million a year financing costs.
Had we built a new ground 25 years ago the cost would probably have been in the region of £8/£10 million , expensive for the time but the great thing about inflation is the initial cost becomes smaller relative to income going forward. So perhaps £25 million now wouldn't look so bad in 15 years when a bog standard player will be selling for £3 million. Speculate to accumulate can be a real success but can also be a real disaster.
New builds Id hate, from Scotland - nearly all of them - but particular hate for
St Mirren Park
McDiarmid Park
New Douglas Park
New Ones I could live with
Doncaster Keepmoat Stadium
Falkirk Stadium with filled in Corners - and 4 stands
Rotheram United - New York Stadium
Mind you all pie in the sky for the time being.
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A new roof on the East Stand and rebuild of the Main Stain should be within financial limitations of the club.
Last I read somewhere upgrading the Main Stand would be circa £2million a complete rebuild £5 million. Ayr Utd built a new stand with excellent corporate suites / Function Suite for £3 Million. However only 800 seats. Unless substantial outside investment is available a new ground would be very difficult to realise.
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Just now, grizzlyg said:
No chance of dons doing us a favour Wednesday night then
Aberdeen couldnae beat a carpet they are brutal. Only chance they have against Celtic is if Celtic have a man sent off.
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3 hours ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Since we will be in different groups after the split, Dundee United didn't score a goal against us this season.
I read a remarkable stat which I still find hard to believe. Dundee Utd have only won twice at Fir Park in 11 years. Can't be right??
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16 hours ago, mfc88 said:
Maybe i've got my claret and amber specs on, but having seen it on sportscene it was pretty clear cut, no?
A bit of tit for tat grappling and shirt pulling by both of them then after the moments passed sevelj gives a cheap shot elbow. Completely stupid.
Ricky Foster suggested JTs made the most of it, but he's every right to IMO.
Everyone asking why Maswanhise is holding his bawz, what the clarity of the pictures don't show is where the defenders hand ended up once the elbow was put into Maswanhise ribs its quite possible his hand did catch his nuts. It was a penalty United are just in full deflection mode.
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5 minutes ago, purestate said:
Ward’s performance was a bit odd. Presumably the multiple long balls in first half was on instruction but his distribution started getting very sloppy towards end. I suppose the good thing is that we lost goals early in the season from these types of lapses but defended the resulting loss of possession better today.
Dundee Utd were man marking so were making it harder to play out from the back so he had to go long more often that would be usual.
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A comfortable win without reaching the heights we are capable of. The atmosphere was a bit flat because we didn't get into our usual stride but no major concerns. Its 3 points, we move onto Dundee. Good to see Hibs dropping 2 points.
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53 minutes ago, Richie said:
Going by statdium map, could be quite a healthy home crowd today.
Had a quick look 10 mins ago. If the Map is accurate and if my Windows scanner / calculator is correct we have seats left in
John Hunter Stand 144
Cooper Stand 183
Main Stand 335
3 x Home Stands Capacity 9242
Which means the home support will be 8580 , if its accurate that's an incredible home support.
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On 2/26/2026 at 9:03 AM, Spiderpig said:
We have 11 games to play, 33 points all of them massive games, win them all and who knows where we will end up. We have missed two big opportunities for sucess so far this season, so lets hope we can be the best we can be in the run in and maybe it will be 3rd time lucky for the biggest prize of all, coyw.
There's no doubt in my mind if we won all 11 we would be Champions, however the chances of us winning all 11 games on the trot are almost impossible.
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Think this could be a harder game than most expect. However if both teams play to their normal a home win should happen.
Just looked at ticket map and I think we could hit 7500 home fan which would be a great turn out.
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13 minutes ago, dennyc said:
I think their is some truth in those comments but generally it will come down to whether they are earning enough in the first place to make any potential increase less critical or life changing.
I doubt the wages on offer at Motherwell to players and staff provide the financial security that would enable anyone to refuse a huge uplift.
Hastie is the classic example. I wonder where he would be financially if he had stayed put? Maybe still at Airdrie having been released by us and needing a second job to make ends meet. As mentioned above, he made the right, safer choice.
Like every one on here I hope Askou and our top players and coaches are here next season. But I am realistic enough to understand they will look to move on if/when the right offer comes along. It would only take one poor season for their value....and those job offers... to return to previous levels. Let's enjoy what we have when we have it and pray that any replacements continue the amazing progress that has been seen this season.
Correct and certainly a European game or two would not be a huge influence on decisions anyone on our books has to make if a big offer and big club comes in.
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26 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Very true. Not everyone is driven solely by money.
The vast majority are cos very few of us have the luxury of finance not being the major factor in our decisions.
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34 minutes ago, weeyin said:
Maybe.
Maybe Jake Hastie got over it with his big wage bump for his Rangers contract.
Maybe Reece McAlear got over it with his big wage bump for his Norwich contract.
Maybe Stuart McKinstry got over it with his big wage bump for his Leed Utd contract
You think Stuart McCall enjoyed managing Rangers as much as he enjoyed managing us?
If someone is in it for the money, more power to them. I think, however, there is something to be said for enjoying your job, even (or especially) when that job is playing a game.
Oh there nowt better than loving your job but very few of us would let that stop us increasing our take home 20 fold.
I'm sure Stuart McCall enjoyed his time with us more but the contract Rangers have him will have soothed his concerns. Slight difference for guys who are already very wealthy, they have the luxury of being picky. Anyone on our books is not extremely wealthy therefore are extremely unlikely to stay for the love of it or a European game.
Dundee v Motherwell 07/03/2026
in Club Chat
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as I said a view that suggests any team that doesn't win deserves to lose and I just don't accept that. We will just need to agree to differ.