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10 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:
Im not sure I agree with that.
If you look at the still, there is a clear pass to Watt, that if it comes off allows him to turn taking 5 Celtic players out the game and giving us a great opportunity to attack.
Ward makes a rickets of it, and you could argue the pass is too risky. But the manager has stated clearly numerous times that he wants us to take risks and thats what he likes.
I was happy to criticise Ward over the handling errors, as these are basic goalkeeping skills, but this isnt the same, and totally ignores the lack of options the manager has to deal with this without ripping up what we do. If fhe thought Ox was the answer he would have been in after the Killie game.
Everyone is going round in circles on this one. It was a keeper fuck up plain and simple. He joins Stevie Woods in the worst fuck ups against the OF from a winning position. Games done and lost, we can't change it.
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19 minutes ago, witchfindergeneral said:
Why should he though? Every other time we passed about at the back we beat Celtic's press, the one time we failed they scored. What if he boots it up, Celtic player wins the ball, passes to a teammate and then scores immediately? Is that really seen as a better option?
It's the risk we are taking and it's absolutely fine when it works.The chances of the latter giving Celtic the equaliser compared to the former is 5% against 95%. Its just a bad judgement call no matter how its dressed up.
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I never thought I'd live to see the day where a Motherwell keeper would emulate Stevie Woods horrendous fuck up when we were on the verge of putting Rangers out the Cup in 1998 but there you go. Ward now has now made the "Worst Goalkeeping Fuck Up Ever" a joint Motherwell award.
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4 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
Calum Ward's error rate is now unsustainable. Yes, keepers do make mistakes, but there comes a point when it really becomes unacceptable, and thats where we are now. The Ox is now due his chance again. If he proves unreliable then we have to move for a new keeper in the January sales. Goalkeeping errors are now costing us big time.
Pretty much how I feel.
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4 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:
If the pass hadn’t gone astray and got to the intended Motherwell player then Ward would have taken out 5 of the Celtic outfield players with one pass, leaving plenty of room for out midfield and strikes to exploit.
Yes it’s risk and reward football which when it works is beautiful but when it goes wrong, like today, horrendous. I’m still a believer in it so won’t get too upset about it.
Celtic got the breaks today, FFS their penalty came from a McGregor mis-hit shot that bounced up off the ground.
It's all ifs, buts and maybes but they definitely got the luck today.The luck they always have against us? is it luck. How many times have we lost games against Celtic in injury time over the last few years?
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6 hours ago, Spiderpig said:
The errors made by Ward are nothing to do with the system JBA is asking the players to play, they are pure and simply him making a complete James Hunt of it and failing to meet the basic requirements of a goal keeper, ie catching the ball or not passing it straight to an opposition player.
Correct , in any type of play a keeper of ANY standard should be able to deal with that today. He just made an horrendous error of judgement. Sadly too many have been happening to him . The dropped ball against Kilmarnock was not because of our style of play. The two goals against Hearts were not because of our style of play. They were all basic goalkeeping errors. I suspect there will be a finite level of the number of basic errors the manager will accept.
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3 minutes ago, stv said:
At least now we know what to do and what not to do in the league cup final.
Wooo dismissing St Mirren at our peril. 😂😂
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3 minutes ago, BigManTam said:
As bad as it was, I'm happy to let Ward away with that one. Until now, his passing hasn't come into question - it's mistakes with his hands which have been the issue. Hopefully a lesson learned for him and one he can grow from.
Another enjoyable game though it has to be said, even with the late defeat. It had a bit of the Hearts draw about it...in a great position and we just didn't quite know what to do with ourselves. Maybe Jens needs to add another string to his bow and get the team able to play low block, hoof it away type stuff when required.
We've also got to remember that's was not our strongest team.
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29 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
I'm as disappointed as the next fan but have seen it all before and many times at that. I wasn't expecting anything today. Just as I'm not going overboard about our new type of play I'm not going overboard about yet another defeat at Parkhead.
I'm not going overboard about how we now play but I'd far rather watch what we are watching to the boot and rush shite we see far too often. In days gone by fans would fork out £36 for zero attacks, zero shots and an endless stream of blooter it anywhere. Those who went today at least had something to get behind.
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5 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:
I’ll have to see it again but at the time I thought the 6 yard box was Like central station. There were far too many bodies in our face to be trying to pick out a player.
Correct the pass he made straight to the Celtic player was just plain wrong, there wasn't a Motherwell player waiting to receive it.
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2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:
We won't know until he gives Ox a chance. As I have said before we have 10 Outfield players to do the footballing part, I want my keepers collecting crosses and saving shots
I would disagree in part. In the system we play we need a keeper who is comfortable playing at the back. There were numerous times today we opened up good space based on playing from the keeper across the back opening up big spaces in the midfield. What we need is a keeper whose judgement is more focused, play out from the back as part of the new system but when we have an opposition player just about inside our man's shorts the keeper does not play the ball to him. In todays fuck up the keeper wasn't even passing it to a Motherwell man, had it not gone straight to the Celtic player there wasn't a Motherwell player waiting in open space for it. It was just a complete and utter mental cluster fuck and horrendous judgement from the keeper.
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2 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:
There is no point ward making 6 great saves a game then one absolute howler. Yes JBA wants us to be brave but there are times when common sense should kick in. Sorry but Ox needs to be given a chance
Wards judgement has been sadly lacking in a number of games even accounting for some excellent saves. I'm not so sure OX has what the manager wants in terms of the style we play but you are correct a keeper can't keep making bad judgement calls. I've got a feeling he will stick with Ward. Remember the managers line "players need to know its OK to make a mistake".. The frequency might change that view mind you.
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9 minutes ago, MJC said:
And he also had an excellent, yet almost forgotten save at Tynecastle with just about the last kick of the ball to rescue us a point that day. Granted he had cost us with the equaliser but similar to today we were done by that point and it wouldn’t have been a surprise if Hearts had won that 4-3. The goalkeeper is always going to be the most obvious target if he makes a mistake that costs a goal, but as a team we just don’t look capable of defending a lead.
I think we are more than capable of defending a lead. Teams have not overtured our leads because we are playing badly. They are being handed individual gifts. At this moment primarily by the goalkeeper. That in itself is an easier fix than having to rework a system because a team cant work well with it. We obviously can work well with it.
No one absolutely no one has played us off the park including Celtic. So there is more to be optimistic about even as sore as that was today. That wasn't our strongest team by some measure and all but for a couple if individual mistakes, (Keeper and Priestman) we'd have got something today.
Sorry for Ward that he will take all the blame but Priestman will get off scot free today and he was shocking at the 3rd goal.
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Just now, texanwellfan said:
There’s being brave but then there’s being stupid. Hopefully Ward now has the difference implanted in his brain. It’s a shame really as he had a great game other than that one mistake.
im gutted at the momemt but that won’t last long. Then I’ll be really looking forward to us getting back at it again with our full midfield crew up for selection.Exactly it's his judgement in question at the moment not the style of play we have adopted.
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1 minute ago, robsterwood said:
Only positive I can see is Ward releases a dvd of his many bloopers and we use it to raise money for charity. It will be a fairly long dvd. 🤣
I know it's hard for folk to see it right now and I in no way excuse his shocker but he had some outstanding saves, we could have been down and out before his fuck up.
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20 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
Manager needs a lesson in game management. If your 2.1 up you don't need to keep playing balls out from the back. Needs to be more defensive minded in later stages when ahead.
You can keep playing balls out from the back all game, nothing wrong with that. What you need is good judgement not to play the ball to a man inside the box if their is an opponent just about in his shorts. If there is no option / player in safe space to play out from the back you need to go long. Doesn't need a wholesale abandonment on a style that actually creates alot of space. The reason we got alot of space in the first 60/65 mins is because we played it our from the back and got the ball into good space.
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20 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
Bring on international break. That was shit. Poor defending at 3rd goal. Calamity ward conceding 2nd.
Correct Ward will take the heat off Priestman for his absolute fuck all effort to prevent the 3rd goal. Stood with his finger up his arse admiring the view as the Celtic player strode into the box to receive the pass to set up the goal. Osong is utterly dreadful too
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9 hours ago, weeyin said:
Jake Hastie moves to Airdrie on a 4 month loan (being made permanent next window).
26 years old, signed 12 different contracts since being with us, been utter shite in every one other than his 10 game burst at Motherwell. He's the reason it's sometimes better to jump at the big payday. A 4 year contract with Rangers on a reputed 5 grand a Week. Should be a wealthy young man whose done fuck all to merit a life changing contract. But hey good luck to him wish I could get my money as easy.
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4 hours ago, wellfan said:
If JBA turns us into a stable, top-six possession side by the end of the season, he’ll inevitably be poached. That doesn’t mean game over though. It means we’ve built that identity, and the job is simply to bring in another manager to continue it. I trust the new Chairman to do exactly that.
The trajectory is now set regardless of who’s in charge. The aim obviously isn’t winning the league every year. It’s stability, entertaining football, European qualification, and a decent cup run or two.
I would imagine, if sustained, the first significant upturn in attendances in 20 years will also reinforce that fans want entertained. The die hards like myself will turn up every week no mater the shite on show but fans who pick n choose need more than blind loyalty to part with £25 every second week.
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On 9/28/2025 at 11:11 PM, MFCL84 said:
I feel that we have a chance to take 3 points from this one. I would have been much more confident if we didn't have the ridiculous injury list, but I am still hopeful for at least 1 point and wouldn't be surprised if we take all 3.
This is our marker for the league title 😁😜
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I think we stand a better chance of a result against Celtic than we've done for a while because we won't just keep giving them possession every two seconds. Will still be a huge effort to get anything but Id rather face them playing as we are than the usual boot and run we usually play against them.
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4 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:
It was certainly a lot busier beside me in the Hunter.
If correct, 5700 home fans would back that up.
Long may it continue!
It's pleasing the fans are responding... For so long home crowds have stuck around 4/4500. It's good for the players to see fans responding to the better stuff we are watching
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11 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:
Really enjoyed that last night!
There's always something special about a game under the lights on a pissing wet night!
Aberdeen arent anywhere near as bad a team as their league position suggests. They have some very good players, and have been very good at trying to disrupt what we do over the 2 games. A bit like ourselves in that they have been unlucky in front of goal and their decision making let them down a couple times in the final third which is preventing them getting the goals they need to improve their results. Lazetic was greedy with his chance at the end and really should have squared it. Had he done so, we could have been 1-0 down.
That said, I thought we were generally very good first half and stayed patient. Much better attacking wise second half and probably deserved to get the 3 points in the end as we had some very good chances ourselves.
Really pleased for Stama to get off the mark. Really shoulda scored with his one on one with Mitov and was unlucky with the header that flashed at him very quickly. You could see what it meant to him getting the goal and its clear his team mates have his back the way they all celebrated with him.
Great 3 points and keeps the feelgood factor going ahead if a difficultl trip to Celtic Park next weekend.
You are probably right but they are bang average. They don't look like a top 6 team either, however they have financial resources and that will always helps . Mind you the £20 million they have spent so far isnt showing much return.
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37 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:
You make your own luck, we never settled for the draw and went for the win, and we got our rewards, even after we scored we were still attacking in the 97th min.
But like you I still remain to be convinced about Stamatelopoulos hopefully last night will be the boost he needs, that said I'd hope we are looking at targets to bring in another striker in January just in case.
Correct , hopefully it will turn for him, he works hard .. me ? Im not convinced by him. .
Celtic v Motherwell 05/10/2025
in Club Chat
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That for me is really all that we are missing. If we get results against Livingston and Falkirk we are well set up for the season but we just cannot give either of those sides the goalkeeping freebies we've given Hearts, Kilmarnock and Celtic. We really should be sitting top of the league and that's a testament to how well we've played but shooting ourselves in the foot.