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  1. 1 hour ago, MJC said:

    In fairness I would put Tommy Coyne in the legend category. He never won silverware with us but he was the spearhead of a fantastic Motherwell side and scored many a crucial goal. He was also a terrific footballer into the bargain. Likewise guys like Keith Lasley, Stephen Craigan and Stevie Hammell, all club legends in my book for the many years of great service they gave us.

    I was referring to managers. 

  2. 18 minutes ago, MJC said:

    I haven’t at any point said that we haven’t been very good this season overall. We have clearly surpassed all pre-season expectations and then some and indeed the football we have shown we are capable of playing has been the best in as long as I can remember, possibly since McGhee’s first season back in 07/08.

    But nothing is black and white. There was nothing that I said earlier that wasn’t factual. We failed to win a league match until late September, throwing away a bucketload of points early season. We have a very poor record against the top six sides especially away from home. In both Cup competitions we exited in absolutely dismal fashion and the Scottish Cup tie against Aberdeen saw the manager rotate the team for no good reason. And since mid-late February we have fallen away performance and result wise and from being talked about as potential title contenders we now look like we could throw away fourth place. Now, let me be clear, even if that does happen it will still have been a very good season for us but I think while there will be a great deal of fondness for this season, Jens and the way we have played when we are at our best, there will also be a degree of “what might have been” or even possibly “what should have been”.

    JBA has been very good for us in his short time and I hope we can hang onto him. But he is not a club ‘legend’ yet as was suggested and he is certainly not the next Pep Guardiola as you would think with the way some both inside and outside our support have been gushing over him. He could very well go on to be a legend of Motherwell FC but he is nowhere near that yet.

    Artichoke. Cholmondely. Pedigree CHUM.

    A legend is born when we win silverware, that's why Tommy McLean is given that accolade and if truth be told for much of Tommy's 10 year reign we were relegation cannon fodder but where he took us from and to is what puts him in that category for me. 

  3. 4 minutes ago, wellon said:

    Fans are always shit or sugar

    It was poor today tbf , we are still in box seats for Europe,  hibs aren't anything special and it's between us and them....thought falkirk looked far better than hibs

    I think Falkirk are the best team we've faced over 3 games , anyone hear how many fans Falkirk brought to day. Looked a healthy support again. 

  4. 2 minutes ago, Mad Dog said:

    No way their second goal is Ward's fault. McGinn out ought have passed to Sparrow, but didn't. We were under pressure from then on, Watt's pass to Ward was inaccurate and gave him no chance.

    The second goal was on Watt for me. 

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  5. 2 minutes ago, gaz7 said:

    What about crucial games hibs and falkirk have lost when chips are down. Must have been more than us as they are still behind.

    A lot of crap on here tonight

    All about opinions , ours just differ and the seasons end will see who was right. 

  6. 14 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

    Nonsense we are finishing no lower than 5th, 8 in front of Falkirk, they are not going to win 3 games more than us, they play Rangers next week then its the top 6 teams. 

    We are on a poor run last 4 games but we will get over the line in 4th. Today we gifted Falkirk a goal, and both Sparrow and Maswhanise should have scored so it was not as bad as it looks.

    4th place is still ours to lose, lets see how we deal with it

    Apologies I thought Falkirk were 5 behind. As you say 4th is ours to lose and that's exactly what we will do. Happy for others to disagree but when the chips have been down in crucial games this season we've blown it at the business end of the season.  

    It was every bit as bad as it looked today, we were awful all over the park, our passing was poor our decision making even worse, our first touch was shocking. How many times did the Keeper / Watt passing play signal we were going to fuck it up before we did. We should have seen that Falkirk had us rumbled and their high press was excellent giving up no room. There were 5 occasions that I counted where we got away with that play by Keeper/ Watt  by a baw hair, the signals were there  but yet we kept doing it until the inevitable fuck up. happened

  7. Just now, stv said:

    To many short passes with one upfront is poor. These last 4 games now prove we have been sussed by the opposition. The manager is not using a plan b ,whatever it may be . Going forward today then passing it back gives organised teams time to get back behind the ball. It only takes a backward pass and then a sideways one for opposition to get back into place to stop us going forward. Priestman should have been on earlier. TJ is shite up front on his own when we don't play long balls to him.

    Shocking from Ward for their second no other way to describe that .

    Compare and contrast, every time Falkirk got to the edge of or 18 yard box there were either 3 or 4 Falkirk players in and around the box. Every time we did likewise we had Manwanhise in the box and every other Motherwell player a mile behind him. 

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  8. 1 hour ago, mio said:

    I’ll make a prediction here…. We won’t win the league 

    Ill make another we wont get into Europe.

    Absolutely collapsing at the wrong time. How many warnings did we get with the ball from keeper to Ward before we finally gave them what had been coming all first half. How the fuck Said stayed on is beyond me , he was beyond pish but to be fair there were many to choose from. Falkirk took the absolute piss out of us and deserved everything they got.

    Maswanhise couldn't trap a bag of cement, another Theo Bair. Take the money and run in the summer. . (I had left before he scored but doesn't change my view) A season of stunning football and we will end up with fuck all to show for it. I go to Tynecastle in real trepidation. 

    To think 6 weeks ago I was worried about going on holiday and missing the last two games and the Scottish Cup final. Be quite glad I'm away the way its going right now. European place is advantage Hibs as we need to go there and frankly its now not beyond the realms of possibility Falkirk could catch us with us going there too.

     

     

  9. 1 hour ago, thewelllfan said:

    1 more game ticked off the schedule is all that game was. If we get into the split 6 points ahead of Hibs we should have enough for 4th. Maswanhise really should score the chance he got cut back to him on the penalty spot.

    With them to face at Easter Road I think we need 8/9 ahead at the split to be sure. They've got Kilmarnock and Aberdeen and we have Falkirk and Hearts. I suspect the gap will be less than 6  going into the split. 

  10. 4 minutes ago, twistandshout1983 said:

    Well here's hoping we don't

    I'd love it if we beat them as Kev Keegan once said 

    Oh so do I but it would be just so Motherwell to play the best Football any of us have seen in 60 years and end up 5th.

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  11. 22 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:

    JBA and our stock is high, building on it would put it stratospheric, fingers crossed we show some ambition

    Exactly his stock and that of the players ae sky high, that is why they will be taken from us. Any notion that  we can hold on to players playing as they are and the manager are fanciful. At the very most JBA will be with us one more season. The only way he wouldn't leave in year two would be if we were pish at which point interest in his would drop.

  12. 20 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:

    Tommy Mclean done it, built a team that won us the cup in 91 then continued to develop it and came very close to winning the league a few years later. So why cant JBA fo the same the new board seem to have bought in to his philosophy and i have no doubt they will back him financially. The club is heading in a new direction both on and off the field, so anything is possible.

    Because as much as Tommy McLeans achievement was outstanding fort much of his 10 year spell were were poor relegation / bottom half fodder. It was only in the later part of his rein that the team turned into anything. special. Therefore for much of his 10 years no one was desperate to get him as their manager nor sign most of our players. The minute he did achieve he moved on and the team was broken up. Tommy McLean completely endorses my point. 

     

    Tommy McLeans Team positions from 82/83

     

    82/83 8th

    83/84 10th Relegated

    84/85 Relegated in 1st Division 

    85/86 9th

    86/87 8th

    87/88 8th

    88/89 9th

    89/90 6th

    90/91 6th

    91/92  10th

    92/93 9th

    93/94 3rd

    Tommy McLean left for Hearts June 1994

  13. On 3/7/2026 at 10:45 PM, bobbybingo said:

    Crowds haven't gone up this season because we won the cup in 1991. The hope is, if we carry on down this path, success will follow. If someone said we'd have a better chance of winning a cup were Robinson to return, with his footballing philosophy in tow, I'd say, no thanks. I realise some would roll out the welcome mat.

    You are being ultra optimistic. Clubs like us are rarely allowed to maintain success because the minute we are successful our players and managers are taken from us so just like every other season we will be faced with a rebuild. So any notion that we will build upon success year after year if quite frankly unlikely for a club of our size. The ambitions are laudable but the chances of it building into a trophy wining team are remote.

  14. 5 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

    Crowds haven't gone up this season because we won the cup in 1991. The hope is, if we carry on down this path, success will follow. If someone said we'd have a better chance of winning a cup were Robinson to return, with his footballing philosophy in tow, I'd say, no thanks. I realise some would roll out the welcome mat.

    success in terms of silverware will always be a longshot because as soon as clubs like us get success the manager and players ae taken from us. That is why its so infuriating when we fuck up when a tournament opens up for us. Rangers and Celtic will never both be as bad in the same season for many years to come. So therefore Id bite your hand off for just one more success before I die and if that trade off if eye bleeding shite for a season I'd take it. 

    That is not to say I don't support and enjoy what were are doing . The question of "what would you take .a great season or relegation and a cup win.." was always a hypothetical , its never an offer that will ever be presented to us.

  15. 44 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

    I saw it, and I remember it. I also remember being relegated twice, and the years of damage that did to the club. To each their own.

     

    Yeah but the damage has been undone , Silverware is permanent form and status are fluid.

  16. Just now, robsterwood said:

    True . Wise words

     We came a long way . But others have won cups and thus made legends . If we even keep a 3rd of squad together we should make top 6 next year and chance of cup semi final 

    Ive never been in the camp that we could win the league , you just needed to look at our remaining fixtures before today and we' realistically needed to  win 9 of our remaining 10 games. That meant winning at Celtic Park, Tynecastle , Ibrox , Easter Road and Celtic and Hearts at Fir Park , In no world was that EVER going to happen.

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  17. 6 minutes ago, ppower said:

    No team deserves anything, but they did what we couldn't do scored twice. Simples really.

    as I said a view that suggests any team that doesn't win deserves to lose and I just don't accept that. We will just need to agree to differ.

  18. 1 minute ago, texanwellfan said:

    I read it as they deserved. to win because they came into the game with a plan and left with three points. So well played Dundee. It was up to us to break them down and we just couldn’t do it today. Another day we might have. 

    So by that theory every game you don't win you deserve to lose? don't agree. Dundee didn't deserve to win today.

  19. 2 minutes ago, ppower said:

    Spot on. Football is about winning things. We like all the teams outside of the bigot brothers have only two cups we can win. So would I swap our season for St Mirren. You better believe I would.

    Silverware is permanent , form and league status are transient.

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