FirParkCornerExile
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30 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:
I will be the one with his glass half full! 😉
I'll be the one with the blindfold on...
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8 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
I've been going to Fir Park since the late 50s and haven't lost my enthusiasm. I still get annoyed at defeats but am no longer surprised. TV has changed the game irreversibly and its a small, very small consolation, that it's nothing to do with me. I'll continue to support MFC come what may.
The club is fortunate to have guys like you , guys like me not so, I'm at the stage after unstinting support for 46 years I'm sick to the back teeth of it. I could walk away tomorrow. It's only habit that keeps me going and the great people I have gone to games with. If they gave up I'd finish tomorrow. I stress it's got fuck all to do with the Morton game. I thoroughly expected that result. I've felt like this for 5/6 years now.
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21 minutes ago, santheman said:
Maybe we should start a Grumpy Old Men's Club.
Meet before home games in Club100 and reminisce about the good old days of the 60's and 70's.
😆😆 And I bet we'd all recognise one another without ever having met.
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56 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said:
Yep i agree with a fair few of you i been going for around 45 years now to Fir Park i am nearly 50 years old and i am at the stage where i am so bored of the club it just feels like groundhog day more so last couple of years its been terrible.
Now i make a round trip of nearly 70 miles,i dont drive so i am at the stage where do i really need this,the x amount i am spending could go on something else and the big question is would i really miss it alot enough to care.
This has nothing to do with the fact we got beat by Morton as someone said above used to its nothing really new its more so this season i look at the quality on the pitch and there is nothing to get me excited,not one player i want to turn up and watch.
So i shall be reviewing the new chairman and new ceo watch over the summer what they are going to do moving forward and if i like what i hear see some progress then i shall turn up and if its more of the same then think it might be time to watch from afar sadly.
You are a better man than me mate , I only travel from EK to Motherwell. If I had 70 mile round trips I think I'd be done.
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On 1/31/2024 at 11:03 PM, Yabba's Turd said:
The run under Watson is far and away the worst time I have had to suffer through as a 'well fan, brutal doesn't even come close.
I think Maurice Malpas equalled it, both horrendous.
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On 1/31/2024 at 2:21 PM, AllyMax said:
Not the worst player he ever signed. Shivute's double at Ibrox in a 2-2 draw was worth signing him for. He was a bit raw and sometimes ran the ball out of play, but he was nowhere near the worst player we've ever had or even the worst signed by McLeish. Even when he signed decent players he made shit deals for them.
"Sometimes ran the ball out of play......" You are being very generous mate. Shivute was crap but we've got plenty to choose from, Billy Davies brother for one. Worst manager ? Without doubt Maurice Malpas followed by Bobby Watson, Harri Kampman then McLeish. McLeish generally did well initially because he inherited Tommy McLeans team then set about rebuilding it and his dealings in the transfer market were horrendous. At least Malpas, Watson and Kampman had the excuse of no money to spend. McLeish wasted the £1.75 million we got for Phil ODonnel. Equivalent of £4 million in today's money.
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On 2/10/2024 at 9:49 AM, Kmcalpin said:
Good call Grizzly. You can add Vale to that list too as he's looked good in his 2 cameos. As always Aberdeen will prove a hard physical test
Aberdeen won't even need to try , if they remain patient we will as near as put the ball in the net for them. It's been our Achilles heel for long enough , the standard of goal we generally concede is frankly a joke.
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On 2/10/2024 at 9:44 AM, grizzlyg said:
If Casey fit enough then I would start him ahead of Butcher who just isn't the same player. Miovski will run rings round him.
I would also be tempted to start Devine and Jili in wing back roles. Get Halliday back in at expense of Paton.
COYW
Casey or Butcher is a toss up between poor or piss poor.
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15 hours ago, wellgirl said:
As hard as this is. We need to move on. I'm not having a go at you here but we never do things the easy way do we.
I've had 46 years of moving on , it's water off a ducks back within a day. I'm as close to chucking as I've ever been. I am seriously bored watching this year on year whinge about being skint , year on year fuck ups in Cups, year on year having to rebuild from loan deals every 6 months. I seriously question what would I miss.
It's OK when you are young there is an air of excitement about it all but as you get older and see the same script year on year the attraction diminishes, well thats how I feel, maybe some other who started watching us in the 1970s still get the excitement.
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1 hour ago, gaz7 said:
I dont think they did pal but that's football all about opinions. I actually watched game again today on Iplayer and we did have some nice 1 touch stuff but went nowhere with it.
They weren't miles better but scored 1st and had bigger players than us who bullied us a bit and wanted it a wee bit more I felt.
I'm same as you in totally raging with result and wondering where we go next but I know something we can't give up.
I actually thought Morton were worse than I was expecting which makes it worse, they didn't need to try that hard and they had us beat.
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1 hour ago, gaz7 said:
Well they didn't did they. They got ball forward quickly. And played on our inability to defend so fair play to them .if you think they passed us of park by getting ball down and passing round us I will disagree with you on that .
They played the ball on the deck far more often than we did, unlike us they didn't continually resort to the hoof ball. Indeed for their second goal the ball never left the surface. I'm in no way suggesting Morton were a silky deck playing team but the played the ball on the surface more than we did. Every time SOD , Kelly, Mugabi, Miller, or Butcher got the ball you knew it was going skywards.
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Good comeback for Livingston 2-0 down away to Thistle beat them 3-2.
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18 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
I always suspected the players' attitude got us through that play-off rather than anything Baraclough did. Makes me wonder about their attitude in the games prior to that, right enough. Summed up by Ainsworth - very capable when he could be arsed.
This lot are undoubtedly of a lesser standard but their attitude's been pretty good in most matches, Dingwall and last night being obvious exceptions. Just need to hope they get over it sooner than we will.
I'm over it already , No one could convince me that lot wouldn't fuck it up. Hence my Sky Bet certainty.
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1 minute ago, robsterwood said:
Think we should have taken a gamble on getting van veen to get us through cup and another pay day. He's already got 1 assist as a sub. Starts today
KVV would have stopped this dreadful goals we lost, scoring goals is not our biggest issue.
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6 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
They would, but they still finished in the play-off spot. You could probably say the same about every team who were in the Premier then and now.
You have a point that Motherwell play off team would probably be comfortably top six in this current league of dross.
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1 hour ago, wellfan said:
This is exactly why we can’t finish in the playoff spot. This squad and manager are an entirely different (shittier?) beast to those in 2015.
I actually watched the 2015 play off games on YouTube the other night. The team we had would depose every single player in last night's team
Long, Law, Laing, McManus, Hammel, Ainsworth, Lasley , Pearson, Johnson, McDonald, Erwin and John Sutton on of the subs.
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1 hour ago, Mortonhallwell said:
What would you consider to be a winnable home draw? Just think Raith Rovers or Albion Rovers for example. After last night I wouldn't trust us against any level of opposition.
We are capable of delivering a poor performance against any team.
So true , we are fair game at any level. I've seen the worst of the worst dick us. So far in my 46 years of watching insufferable shite the only saving grace is we've never drawn Darvel.
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2 hours ago, gaz7 said:
Sounds easy but with the wind how it was it makes it difficult. Surely you are aware of that .
Morton managed it , it's really not that difficult and in many other games we've played the same hoofball when there is no wind at all, with the same pitiful outcomes.
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51 minutes ago, gaz7 said:
Like all I'm scunnered with that last night. Big Oakley done some damage to our defence .
Miller like others said really struggled with pitch and more importantly the wind as all players struggled to get it down. Their midfield 3 esp 1st half dominated and got ball forward early.
I felt when vale came on 57 mins he looked gd and him and bair were in middle in what was 352 but kettlewell panicked and sent on obika 10 mins later and moved those 2 wider which totally killed any momentum that was building and players not knowing what they were doing. The last 20 mins was like a game up park with your pals with players in positions they didn't know. How Nicholson never got on ill never know.
Butcher let Oakley run 20 yards into box without a tackle. Kelly standing off his line at inswinging corner. Spittal hitting outswinging corners when wind is with us. All just small things but by God amateur players know not to do those things.
I could go on and on but my biggest take is kettlewell picked wrong team (halliday should have been on from start to get stuck in with miller on later) and his subs totally wrecked any cohesion in team. Obika just can't do anything now.
How can you struggle to get the ball down. It's easy you send a message from your brain to your feet don't put the ball in the air. That's as hard as it gets
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53 minutes ago, steelman1991 said:
You seriously need to go see an optician. Clutching at straws like a few on here. Pitch was fine and better than ours was/is at this moment in time. No excuses Miller was honking but one thing we can agree on this wasn’t the game for him.
Totally agree , we commented as soon as we arrived that the pitch was in pretty good nick considering their budget. It was flat plenty grass and perfectly playable, no worse than Fir Park is now.
We lost because we were utter shite all over the park. Hoofball right from the off into a strong wind. I seriously wonder about the IQ of your average professional player, after five mins you could see putting the ball in the air was causing us problems but we continued for the entire first half.
A big disappointment for me was the usual fuck up when we get a big crowd. Its happened nearly every time in my 46 years of watching our fuck ups. I heard a couple of people saying this was there first Motherwell game in ages and these folk won't be back. This continual fuck up has a drag and detrimental effect on us ever moving our regular crowds above 3500/4000. I can't blame them for not going. I left with twenty five mins to go. I couldn't stomach watching that shite any longer and I've watched them every week for 46 years. If it's doing that to me we have no chance with less committed fans.
You can bet there will be a few shocks today and the draw will open up , that is also a regular occurrence every time we get fucked out by lower league opposition.
I seriously am questioning why I bother. I was so confident we'd fuck up I stuck money on Morton. We seriously are a fuckin shambles.
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18 minutes ago, Benson said:
We were passive against a team at home and high in confidence,we beat a county team in the week that would struggle in championship,we can't deal with teams that get in about us,leaking goals is guaranteed wether through individual errors or opposition quality that's why we beat County,they were the most subservient team I've seen this season,set pieces deary me,obviously players are not heeding instructions from training ground, talking that's what we practice.obviously league survival is priority, the future I ain't got a clue.
Morton were actually poorer than I was expecting but they were still too good for us. I say it time and again teams don't need to be good against us just patient as we will beat ourselves.
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1 minute ago, Yabba's Turd said:
They were still hanging around v Killie, not playing silky football but they were trying so he hasn't lost his players yet
Livi should have beat Kilmarnock tonight. Killie were utter shite but Livi got the luck bottom of the table teams get.
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53 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
Martindale on the other hand seems to be Teflon. Not saying I want him sacked
Livi know they are down so why go to the cost of sacking him when he's done a great job over the years and may bring them back up.
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Fridays game could go any way. We should win it, but having watched us for 46 years I know should means fuck all. I think if we score 1st we will settle but if they get their noses in front it could be difficult but at least we'll have nearly 2000 fans to create a bit of atmosphere. Sadly the weather forecast is grim with real strong winds and their pitch is awful so it could be a real leveller and it turns into a boot and rush game.
🏆SC Greenock Morton v Motherwell 09/02/2024
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You are not wrong and I fully get why those who stick with it do and I'm not trying to piss on their parade. If they still love it as much as they did 40 years ago I'm genuinely jealous. I'm at the stage and have been for 5/6 years where I find it all intensely tedious and predictable and 90% of the time it is predictable. It's not just us that it affects most of the clubs go through the same ups and downs. A league devoid of any real competition and excitement. The product is crap.
Where the club are guilty is the constantly depressing whinging about being skint, we are the worst whingers in the league. Clubs like St J , St Mirren , Killie and Ross County are not significantly better off than us financially but by Christ we are world beater at griping about it. I never started supporting Motherwell to concern myself with the clubs balance sheet every year. I feel that's all we exist for is to keep the finances in balance.
Anyway I never stared this topic to depress everyone , for those who still love it all , good for you and I hope it stays that way for you.