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It’s a strange one, just noticed that Ox appears to applauded him for trying to keep the ball in as if he also thought it would be a corner, or is he just trying to be supportive of him because SOD fecked up?

Commentator said SOD had been unable to prevent the corner and they don’t mention it as a fuck up after the game so I rewound to check if any Motherwell player had possibly defected the initial cross, maybe it’s the angle but I’m sure it doesn’t come off of Wilson. Paton with his initial piss poor pass - one of many from him yesterday - is as much to blame in my view.

In my mind we seem to do better against teams who are more attack minded and come at us, rather than teams who pack their half and wait for a break, leaving gaps and spaces for us to exploit but against Hearts we didn’t manage anything of note (until they started getting nervous at the end) due to our inability to pass or hold the ball. Balls forward were nothing but punts and I’m really starting to think that the players have a competition each week to see who can get the greatest height on a pass as most go sky high with no distance which pisses me off, try getting the ball past the defenders and get someone running on to it! - and don’t get me started on Ox collecting the ball then waiting for them to get back before distributing it!!! If we are to trouble Aberdeen - or any team - we will need to start putting pressure on them with quick balls forward.

Not sure how the tactics - which I’m also struggling to work out and I’m hacked off with - effect a players ability to trap/hold the ball and make an accurate pass. Basic fundamentals of football that some of our team are struggling with.

Not disagreeing with the decision more the VAR/referee’s decisions in general and the potential loss of points, apologies doesn’t improve our league position. *before anyone says anything I’m not seriously advocating apologies should become points - although if they did we’d be stick ons for Europe

Need to see the goal again but taking one part in isolation, I thought a Hearts player holds and tugs Ox’s arm for a bit which the referee disallows the goal for, then VAR gets him to review it and he changes the decision- possibly correctly - but put this beside the Butland one last week and it’s yet another inconsistency that goes against us which has cost points and for one of them we should get another apology - maybe the SFA should look at awarding teams 3 points for every 5 apologies

Fear the worst after today, biggest problem is that I don’t see who we have on the bench that will improve the team playing the tactics we do. Need to change things up, players and tactics.

Basically my view as well, unbelievably bad all round from manager and players.

Seems like he thinks he still plays for them. Utterly shit fest from us, could use all 5 subs at HT and still be leaving a couple of players on who should be off.

Absolutely honking

My mate who knew them as players was shocked at us only keeping Chris as he believed Nicky was as good if not better but it has taken Nicky longer to get to where he is now. Tough decisions for the coaching staff when budgets are tight and I sometimes wonder who they put before him on their list.

Hopefully not a bad injury but it might mean that he stays with us until the end of the season and although it might cost us on his potential fee I think he will get as good treatment here as anywhere and means he’s close to his family and club mates during his recovery - would happily lose a few bob to see him ok.

Happy new year to you all and yours, my New Year’s resolution is to be nicer to referees which I will never keep and will probably break on Thursday

Of the four main talking points from yesterday my views at the game and since were, 1 - Motherwell’s first goal, players arm was in beside his body so a good goal. 2 - Offside goal, from my position in the main stand behind the line of play I initially thought it was offside and from the highlights I’ve seen it’s a very close call which I’m still not sure which is the correct one. Having said that - and I digress here but - we see it weekly that Casey is flagged for offside at free kicks and is something that needs to be addressed as a lot of our goals come from set pieces so improving the number that aren’t flagged offside improves our chances of scoring. 3 - TW/Butland goal, saw nothing wrong with it at the time and still don’t. 4 - LM foul, thought at the time he had caught the players ankle and the highlights confirmed that, looked a great tackle but did endanger the opponent so yellow card was right. Id also like to add that over the last few games the referees and VAR have been bad and I don’t know if it’s that there’s a bit of a backlash from them for calling them out or the usual OF arse cheeks bias.

Fucking joke

I said at the game as he walked over to the screen and we were all booing him and telling him what a dick he was that the arrogant shit wasn’t going to over turn it out of spite - that attitude is why he should be banned from refereeing.

Thanks for getting my blood boiling, was having a great wee day - fuckin scum, hope we pump them rotten.

On VAR and the penalties, I feel that if DUtds was a penalty then so was the one for us and the inconsistency is what pisses me off. On the Rancid one, it’s similar circumstances to the one Andy Robertson gave away in the Liverpool game against Southampton a few weeks ago as the challenge is on the line of the box which is deemed part of the box - I’m never normally one to get involved in the arse cheeks bickering but VAR screwed up big time there. Ceptic fans can shout about sour grapes all they want but if it had happened up the other end they would have reacted exactly the same.

Agree but since VAR awarded theirs why didn’t they award ours? I can just about accept VAR making a mistake in one game and getting it correct in another but in the same game their interpretation should be consistent.

I’ve suggested before that a new main stand could be the same length as it is now with a purpose built disabled stand with a media centre above it could be built next to it which wouldn’t be tall enough to stop the natural light from getting too the houses behind. Personally I’d like to see some of the money (£4-5M?) spent on a new purpose built training facility with both grass and artificial parks which could be used by the first team, youth teams and also be rented out in the evenings to local teams which would help with the running of the facility.

Typical of my luck

Missed that game

They also say Jair Taveres is a left winger - maybe we should give him a chance there

I like Maswanhise but I don’t think he’s a winger or suited to that role. when Wilson came into the team I thought he was decent at getting forward down the wing and managing to get some crosses into the box but he hasn’t been doing that much lately which I put down to SK stopping him and the right wingback from going forward. Playing quick balls down the wings with two forwards (with at least one staying central) and the two wingbacks supporting them with at least one midfielder also attacking behind the strikers is how I think we should be playing.

I’m going to break this down into three parts dead weights, who exactly are you talking about and who can we move them onto? 2-3 players with some quality, do you - or anybody - think the club hasn’t been trying to improve the squad? Sadly over the last couple of seasons any players with some quantity who we could have potentially signed - or retained - all signed to other clubs who can offer better terms like Hearts/Dundee/Dundee Utd/StMirren/Hibs/Kilmarnock. Unjust/surprising/gifted contract extensions? Are you saying that the club and management are handing out money to existing players rather than getting in better players because of favouritism or just too lazy to try and find better players?