Mad Dog Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Because I don't think we would spend the money on taking a player abroad if there wasnt a good chance we will be signing him. A couple of years ago Faddy didnt travel preseason when he was just using training facilities. Totally agree with you, which is why I was surprised when Mr. T. Rialist a.k.a. Craig Reid ended up going last year. Fair enough his situation wasn't straightforward with McManus turning the trip down in favour of a trial with Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 One mistake? Neilsen, Hughes, Mchugh,Hollis and Cummings not happen then? He never brought in McHugh did he? Also, who is Hughes? My mind has gone blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Stephen Hughes, Frazzle. Hardly a mistake though as claimed. He was given training facilities, which was "upgraded" to a contract for a month, and then allowed to move on when it became sufficiently clear he wasn't going to improve our team at that time. And no, McHugh was given his debut by Mark McGhee which shows how long he's been kicking about trying to establish himself as a first-teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I completely forgot he re-signed for a month. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Stephen, came back to us briefly in 2011 and failed to win a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelvinBragg Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Anyone questioning McCall's record in the transfer market is insane... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'd be interested to know how often Sutton and Anier started together last season. My gut feeling is that it wasn't that often. How often did they start together in the last 3, critical, games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Anyone questioning McCall's record in the transfer market is insane... Particularly when at the same time you are highlighting supposed deficiences you are touting the return of Brian McLean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shire Greats Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 1404002346[/url]' post='415140']One mistake? Neilsen, Hughes, Mchugh,Hollis and Cummings not happen then? You can see why guys like Stuart McCall don't do online football forums Unfair and inaccurate comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 You can see why guys like Stuart McCall don't do online football forums Unfair and inaccurate comments Explain the unfairness and untruths then, will you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 You can see why guys like Stuart McCall don't do online football forums Unfair and inaccurate comments Its a football forum..Its supposed to have every sort of comment you can imagine in it. Its only as unfair or inaccurate as how each person views the post. It would be as boring as fuck if every post had to be pre-checked for accuracy and fairness...Think you would find that this forum would die overnight if you wanted it to be like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'd be interested to know how often Sutton and Anier started together last season. My gut feeling is that it wasn't that often. Point is, we seldom started with two out and out strikers. Normally five in midfield or with McFadden as a link man in a 4411. For me, it makes a Shiels type a more likely signing. Could Clarkson do that? Well, I seem to recall him playing winger for Bristol but does he have the footballing intelligence to play the McFadden role? He certainly could fit the bill as a replacement for Anier in those situations when we threw Anier on alongside Sutton. Would be a decent signing but would he start every week and would he be better going somewhere like Hibs where he probably would... That is complete crap. Anier and Sutton started 18 league games together. Sutton started all but one game and was seldom ever a lone striker, in fact he was the striker more likely to play off the front with McFadden or Anier playing up against the centre half. In close games Sutton was always the one who would drop back to defend on the wings, not McFadden who was unable to adequately move up and down the pitch and not Anier who was far too aggressive and reckless to trust at the back. Plus big John isn't great at holding up the play to wait for support. Like Higdon he is great when he knows where he he passing/heading the ball before it arrives at him. He also can't really dribble. So Anier's main attributes were being fast enough to be a threat with balls over the top, skillful enough to beat a defender with the ball at his feet and able to finish when a chance came his way. Last season neither McFadden or McHugh showed they could do any of those three things reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Dosser Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Confirmed by the man himself on Twitter earlier today. https://twitter.com/...913665621164032 Thanks for that Numpty. My contact is on holiday and I couldn't get a straight answer from other sources. Bit of a shame as I thought he could have been a good squad player. More concerned with club not getting compensation, even only a thousand or so, which would always be a help to the club , given the financial difficulties in Scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Euan Murray really needs to learn how to reply to tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 More concerned with club not getting compensation, even only a thousand or so, which would always be a help to the club , given the financial difficulties in Scottish football. Do you know where he is going then? if you know there is no compensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underboyleheating Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Euan Murray really needs to learn how to reply to tweets. I don’t see a lot wrong with his reply, pretty straight to the point... “no mate unfortunately” Euan Murray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Dosser Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Do you know where he is going then? if you know there is no compensation Sorry mate, nae idea.. Basing this on snippet I heard 're negotiations before I was on holiday, and the fact the club haven't made any official statement. I don't think they would be slow telling us they got money in for a player, given the number that have left over the last couple of seasons for nowt. Could be I'm putting 2+2 and getting 5 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Stand Well Boy Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Do you know where he is going then? if you know there is no compensation Maybe he doesn't have a club at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onthefringes Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 1404058677[/url]' post='415166']Thanks for that Numpty. My contact is on holiday and I couldn't get a straight answer from other sources. Bit of a shame as I thought my son could have been a good squad player. More concerned with club not getting compensation, even only a thousand or so, which would always be a help to the club , given the financial difficulties in Scottish football. Fixed that for you. As for your concern on the club not getting compensation? Spare us. Basing this on snippet I heard 're negotiations before I was on holiday, and the fact the club haven't made any official statement. I don't think they would be slow telling us they got money in for a player, given the number that have left over the last couple of seasons for nowt. Could be I'm putting 2+2 and getting 5 . Just the 5? You've known the situation from the off, whereby, those at the club want/wanted to keep both Murray and Stewart and were actively juggling the budget to suit which till now they've been unable to do given contracted players haven't been moved on as had been hoped in a 'he'll sign if player x moves on sort of way'. That's the reason the club have not announced their 'release' as such. Still, you managed to throw a few curve balls in, with a personal slate on Adam Cummins a few pages previously into the bargain, which I alluded to last night. Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Could be I'm putting 2+2 and getting 5 . I'd go with that for now, until more comes out, if it ever does he's a good lad, who I felt could go on and play first team, easily for us, but I dont know just how good he really is or indeed his real potential,me being just a punter I asked him and he said he was offered a deal, from that point of view, the club done all they can regards gaining compensation etc. can argue long and hard about how good a deal etc, but with an excess of players in front of him for game time, it would be difficult for club to offer big stakes or indeed for the lad to choose to stay and be at least third in line for any likely place, when at a stage in his career where, its all about playing time. As for the club not commenting on him leaving, they have not on any player who moved on with an expired contract or were you commenting on compensation?, be hard if the lad hasnt signed for anyone yet or indeed retired as ESWB might be implying. If you know more, please fill in some blanks, for me it still looks like unfortunate timing for both parties, or if a little harshly put, a successful first team , which has led to limited spaces for lads breaking through, under budget restraints. EDIT: or what the fella above says, you're just leading us on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I'd go with that for now, until more comes out, if it ever does he's a good lad, who I felt could go on and play first team, easily for us, but I dont know just how good he really is or indeed his real potential,me being just a punter I asked him and he said he was offered a deal, from that point of view, the club done all they can regards gaining compensation etc. can argue long and hard about how good a deal etc, but with an excess of players in front of him for game time, it would be difficult for club to offer big stakes or indeed for the lad to choose to stay and be at least third in line for any likely place, when at a stage in his career where, its all about playing time. As for the club not commenting on him leaving, they have not on any player who moved on with an expired contract or were you commenting on compensation?, be hard if the lad hasnt signed for anyone yet or indeed retired as ESWB might be implying. Pretty much agree with that Iain. We have got a limited budget and some situations aren't clear cut. We can only assume that the club has prioritised its playing budget to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 I don't see a lot wrong with his reply, pretty straight to the point... No he doesn't physically reply to them though,just quotes it and tags the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Wheesht man. You're absolutely sizzlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted June 29, 2014 Report Share Posted June 29, 2014 Wheesht man. You're absolutely sizzlin I'll take that as a compliment, Diggo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Dosser Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Just wakened with the mother and father of all WC hangovers. It would appear I have offended a fellow poster with my vodka fuelled ramblings, and I apologise unreservedly for that. I have been a little naive in posting bits of info I had and jumping to the wrong conclusion. I will no longer post when pished, and even when sober will consider carefully, as it is bad enough coming home drunk with an ugly tattoo or half eaten kebab, but a pro footballer; wow ! Again my apolgies to anyone I have offended. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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