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5 hours ago, bobbybingo said:

We were rubbish and they beat us fair and square. A footballing lesson? No. 

Rule 1 footballing lesson. Get stuck in and dont think your the big team and passing ability will always win. 

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35 minutes ago, stv said:

Rule 1 footballing lesson. Get stuck in and dont think your the big team and passing ability will always win. 

I doubt anyone on our team thought that. Even less likely after the number of games we'd lost up until that point. And even less likely again given SK's match prep. 

 

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42 minutes ago, stv said:

Rule 1 footballing lesson. Get stuck in and dont think your the big team and passing ability will always win. 

I'm sure our lot had been in Morton's position often enough to work that out. Sometimes the big team has an off day and the wee team doesn't, simple as that. 

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49 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

I'm sure our lot had been in Morton's position often enough to work that out. Sometimes the big team has an off day and the wee team doesn't, simple as that. 

Just ask Rangers. 

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4 hours ago, wellfan said:

If you want a good laugh, check out Cédric Kipré’s save last night. 

No idea how he got away with that one. No VAR required.

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13088777/west-brom-defender-cedric-kipre-makes-controversial-save-with-his-hand

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1 hour ago, StAndrew7 said:

No VAR in the Championship, that's how. 😅

I was watching that game live, and as well as no VAR, in real time it 100% looked like the keeper saved it. It wasn't until the 2nd replay the commentator noticed the handball.

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11 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:

These are the type of situations VAR was made for, clear and obvious error by the officials.  Right now the VAR looks at hairline offside decisions, possible errors by the officials and anything else that takes their fancy. 

I'd still prefer no VAR and take the hit for the rare situation like that one. 

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Was a stunning save, and as others said NO ONE realised at time it was a handball, commentators took till 2nd replay, QPR players didn't claim, looked for all the world like he headed it, especially from ref's angle.

I thought the big man was immense last night, strolled the game and pinged some great long passes, can anyone remember what we sold him for?

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9 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:

agree - it's a complete waste of money /funds and has taken away more value than it's added.  

1) I don't think the tech is there yet and 2) wrong people use it.  

I think the technology is fine. The issue is definitely related to your second point above. You just have to look at all the back and forth from last weekend where referees, ex-referee's, ex-players, pundits and punters all had different opinions on what various calls should have been. So tackles, a lot of handball situations, hairline offsides, penalty calls or non calls  will not necessarily be resolved by VAR. it needs to be used more sparingly and specifically when it can show a clear obvious error. Following from that,  there should be a very short time limit to present a contradiction to an on the field call because if it’s obvious and clear you should see it in a couple of seconds. 

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1 hour ago, yosemite sam said:

Lets be honest if VAR takes four minutes to decide that something is a penalty, it is not an obvious error.

That's my biggest gripe.

I saw it used in a competition a couple of years ago - I think one of the CONCAF ones - where they had 30 seconds to decide to overrule. Anything longer than that and the decision on the pitch stood. Worked really well.

The fact the VAR officials are from the same pool of refs that make poor decisions on the pitch doesn't help either.

And the fact that the VAR officials often get to pick and choose what to review opens the whole process up to accusations of bias (rightly or wrongly) in favour of the "big" teams.

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3 hours ago, Clackscat said:

Was a stunning save, and as others said NO ONE realised at time it was a handball, commentators took till 2nd replay, QPR players didn't claim, looked for all the world like he headed it, especially from ref's angle.

I thought the big man was immense last night, strolled the game and pinged some great long passes, can anyone remember what we sold him for?

Think he went for £1,000,000.

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15 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

Whatever they're paying him, it's a waste of money. Makes you wonder whether McInnes actually wanted him or if it was just a pissing contest.

Possibly. Not a good sign when you're three one down in a cup tie, ne3eding goals and your marqee striker-signing isn't one of the four subs they brought on.

 

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6 hours ago, AllyMax said:

Possibly. Not a good sign when you're three one down in a cup tie, ne3eding goals and your marqee striker-signing isn't one of the four subs they brought on.

 

McInnes saying Van Veen injured himself in the warm up - but no one mentioned it until he decided to bring him on. 

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re KVV.

I've never understood why was he so desperate to go back to Holland. Given his partner lives  here and was having their child, it's rather odd.  Feels like ego. 

I wish the guy 'Well and delighted with what he did for us but he comes across as a bit of a primadonna . 

It was more luck than judgement that he's not back at FP and with hindsight goggles I'm relieved. Vale has been excellent for us. 
 

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