Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread

[Orinoco]

Plus he is always injured.

[well_said]

7 minutes ago, AllyMax said:

What has happened to Shane Blaney ? Not even getting bench time at 

 

He's  injured , otherwise known as kettlewell disease. 

[mio]

I believe he picked up a bad case of Rosscallachanitus 

pleased to see Ross manage 4 games with Arbroath this season before injury caught up with him again. Looks like a long term injury again. Kettlewell really could spot them.

[wellup83]

14 hours ago, well_said said:

He's  injured , otherwise known as kettlewell disease. 

Makes more money cutting hair

[Kmcalpin]

I met Stevie Kirk at our local coup this afternoon. Looking well and very pleased with our current form. 

[postiejim]

On 12/24/2025 at 12:05 AM, Kmcalpin said:

I met Stevie Kirk at our local coup this afternoon. Looking well and very pleased with our current form. 

Hi Dave . Is Stevie still involved in anyway with Motherwell or football in general?

[Kmcalpin]

32 minutes ago, postiejim said:

Hi Dave . Is Stevie still involved in anyway with Motherwell or football in general?

Not as far as I know, although he has an active interest in MFC. Has a job outside football.

[grizzlyg]

On 12/24/2025 at 12:05 AM, Kmcalpin said:

I met Stevie Kirk at our local coup this afternoon. Looking well and very pleased with our current form. 

Never saw it on Scottish news, a coup sounds quite serious 🤣🤣🤣

[SteelmaninOZ]

A chicken coup? 😆

[joewarkfanclub]

13 minutes ago, SteelmaninOZ said:

A chicken coup? 😆

Maybe a Military Coup?

It is Fife after all! 😆😆😆

[Kmcalpin]

Its a Cooncil coup. 

[grizzlyg]

57 minutes ago, joewarkfanclub said:

Maybe a Military Coup?

It is Fife after all! 😆😆😆

Or further up in Coupar Angus then?

[mio]

Looks like Lennon Miller could be heading to Strasbourg in January. It might be my pigeon French but reports are he’s signing and not a loan deal? Hope that’s the case with our sell on clause.

[Stuwell2]

1 hour ago, mio said:

Looks like Lennon Miller could be heading to Strasbourg in January. It might be my pigeon French but reports are he’s signing and not a loan deal? Hope that’s the case with our sell on clause.

I’m assuming the sell on clause will be a % of anything above the original price paid I.e. we only get a % of anything above £3.?? M. 
I might be wrong but I thought we go nothing when DT left Celtic. 

[Kmcalpin]

8 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:

I’m assuming the sell on clause will be a % of anything above the original price paid I.e. we only get a % of anything above £3.?? M. 
I might be wrong but I thought we go nothing when DT left Celtic. 

Thats correct yes. It will be a % of any profit. 

[Stuwell2]

33 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Thats correct yes. It will be a % of any profit. 

I’m assuming that no matter what he’s sold for we still get a development fee. 

[Kmcalpin]

38 minutes ago, Stuwell2 said:

I’m assuming that no matter what he’s sold for we still get a development fee. 

I might be wrong but I doubt it. I'm under the impression that a development fee is only payable if no fee is agreed. 

[Stuwell2]

2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:

I might be wrong but I doubt it. I'm under the impression that a development fee is only payable if no fee is agreed. 

I’ll need to check but I thought a % of every transfer up to a certain age was split between the clubs that had developed the player. 

[0Neils40yarder]

Miller struggling at Udinese, and Turnbull now at Cardiff...we hyped these lads up to some tune, both the Club itself and the support.

 

Were we collectively deluded on how good they actually were?

[weeyin]

14 minutes ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Were we collectively deluded on how good they actually were?

No.

Turnbull was doing fine at Celtic until he was injured. By the time he was fully fit again, the new manager had built a different style of team without him. Cardiff was probably a bad move, though.

Miller is highly rated, but that doesn't mean a 19 year old is ready to be a starter in a team in a new country.  Arsene Wenger said it took about 6 months for a new player to adapt to a new team in the same league. Longer if they moved to a different country. You can a take a look at teams like Liverpool this season to see how some of their, undoubtedly talented, new signings have struggled.

I understand the reasoning, but Miller joining Udinese without a proper pre-season in Motherwell or Italy might have been a rare misstep.

While you can never guarantee that a youngster will flourish in later years, Miller looked about as close to guaranteed as you can find.

Max Johnston was rated too, and he won a cup and two league titles after he left. So picking the right team and right country also plays a big part.

[Stuwell2]

Re payments it appears what I was thinking about is a solidarity payment which is distributed as 

 This 5% is then distributed proportionally among all clubs that trained the player between the ages of 12 and 23

There are calls to increase this to 8%
 

aside from that I also came across this from the union of European clubs - whoever they are - which proposes  a player development reward which won’t generate much for us at the moment but is a good idea 

 

This policy calls for UEFA to allocate at least 5% of its annual Club Competition revenues to a new financial mechanism that would directly benefit clubs that train and develop the players competing in UEFA Club Competitions, regardless of whether those clubs are participating themselves.

 

 

 

[weeyin]

What I discovered the last time we were discussing this is that there is training compensation up until a player's 23rd birthday, and solidarity payments after that:

"Any time a player is transferred while they are under contract, then a solidarity fee is paid to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club."

What I hadn't realised is that they continue throughout the players' career.

"Solidarity payments do not stop at the player’s 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player’s professional career each time he is transferred while under contract."

So as long a fee is paid while they are under contract, even if they are 40 years old, we still receive our cut. 

Apparently 5% of the transfer fee is used for the distributions.

 

[wellfan]

3 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said:

Miller struggling at Udinese

On what evidence? Udinese haven’t exactly been flying this season, and Miller has barely had a sniff. Runjaic simply hasn’t given him a proper chance, preferring instead to talk shite about him to the press. Miller needs to move on to get first team minutes, although I suspect he’ll still be an Udinese employee long after Runjaic is gone.