Onthefringes Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 3 hours ago, santheman said: FWIW someone who is usually spot on with his info told me that we were never in for Main or Scott and it was just paper talk. At last, sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 7 days to go. Tick tock! Tick tock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi-1991 Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 Soooo how many of our summer signing do we have left? This is a fucking horrendous look for the recruitment team. Absolute confirmation that the entire summer window was a waste of time, money and could cost us our position in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 10 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Don't think Biereth was a waste of time. Nope, nor was Wilkinson. His record suggested that he was worth the gamble but it didn't work out. We moved him on for cash so not a disaster. Shaw probably wasn't part of the recruitment process and was very much a last-minute signing to cover injuries, which he did, although not as well as we hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 29 minutes ago, Yoshi-1991 said: Soooo how many of our summer signing do we have left? This is a fucking horrendous look for the recruitment team. Absolute confirmation that the entire summer window was a waste of time, money and could cost us our position in the league. Four, assuming Obika stays. Zdravkovski, Gent and Bair are doing ok for us. Biereth and Spencer did well enough to be recalled. How does that confirm the entire summer window was a waste of time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Balls of Shire Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 6 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Four, assuming Obika stays. Zdravkovski, Gent and Bair are doing ok for us. Biereth and Spencer did well enough to be recalled. How does that confirm the entire summer window was a waste of time? Yep, all doing well, If Nicholson, Halliday and Monty show up well and every chance they could as they have decent pedigree , then it's been a pretty good season for recruitment team considering the restraints...well done ketts and nick daws 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewarkfanclub Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 Jeez guys we have done this one to death. But here goes again. Oli Shaw was a last minute panic buy after Biereth had got injured and we needed someone in sharpish. The management / recruitment team would not have had a huge pool of talent to pick from at that point but needed to get someone in to help out until Biereth was fit again. He has now been moved back to his parent club after 6 months at no loss to Motherwell. How that can in anyway be assessed as a failure or an albatross to hang around Kettlewell / Daws neck beggers belief. Not saying our recruitment couldnt be improved. Of course it could. But please let this one go! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Great Balls of Shire said: Yep, all doing well, If Nicholson, Halliday and Monty show up well and every chance they could as they have decent pedigree , then it's been a pretty good season for recruitment team considering the restraints...well done ketts and nick daws what a bout ketts going back to his arsenal contact n askin "anymare yung yins want a geme on a sat" cause by feck the last one we got we improved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 I am usually a positive guy but I am genuinely concerned that as it stands we have Bair and Obika up front and thats all. Every other area looking ok but we need 2 strikers or I really fear the worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellfan Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 If Kettlewell and Daws get this winter window right and address the 'mistakes' of the summer window, I expect we will successfully drag ourselves over the finish line, but only once we get more strikers in the door. Any rumours? I will be pleased and have enjoyed the rollercoaster, but it'll be due to the ridiculous panic mode we've seen before. However, many of the current squad and the January short-term signings will likely be out the door by June, meaning a rebuild will be required to reset for the 2024/25 season. Would you want Kettlewell and Daws in charge of that again? I wouldn't because the current evidence suggests it could lead to January 2025 repeating history. We can't lurch from window to crisis to window to crisis like we've been doing recently. It represents a complete failure to adopt any sensible strategy. Therefore, by summer, I hope we have the promised new CEO and Board, a new and experienced management and recruitment team, and a player development strategy to set us on a different path from what we've had to endure/enjoy recently. But then again, that would lead to a boring forum, so maybe give a 5-year contract to Kettlewell and lifetime immunity to Daws so we can see ourselves successfully progress into the Lowland League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 23 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: I am usually a positive guy but I am genuinely concerned that as it stands we have Bair and Obika up front and thats all. Every other area looking ok but we need 2 strikers or I really fear the worse Absolutely Grizzly. As it stands Obika is out injured so that only leaves Bair. Given his injury record we can't rely on Obika. If we want to play 2 up front we may need 3 strikers but yes 2 minimum. That should be our priority of course. I'd still like a dominant central defender in the Hartley/Aldred mould though and a pacy RWB but that might be asking too much. To be even more demanding, we need incomers to hit the ground running. A big ask but we have a week to go. Saturday is another matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanwellfan Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 I thought one of the signings was a pacy RWB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, wellgirl said: Nicholson? I believe so. No the New Zealand lad.Elliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 47 minutes ago, smiddy said: what a bout ketts going back to his arsenal contact n askin "anymare yung yins want a geme on a sat" cause by feck the last one we got we improved If his contact is Spanish, they'll either give him a chair or call the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 38 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: I am usually a positive guy but I am genuinely concerned that as it stands we have Bair and Obika up front and thats all. Every other area looking ok but we need 2 strikers or I really fear the worse Aye we definitely need atleast 2,whoever we bring in should be coming in with the intention of being in front of obika,no harm to the guy but he just can't be relied on to stay fit.im certain were trying to get strikers in but anything can happen and until there actually signed then I think we have every right to be concerned.i would like a centre half in as well,other than maybe mcginn all our centre backs have been poor this season,there's far to many individual errors being made,getting a new face in might be enough to steady the ship as well as the others upping there game a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 19 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: No the New Zealand lad.Elliot Of course. He hasn't played since June though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassin Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 Ideally we'd get a striker in before Saturday but I don't know why folk are convincing themselves we'll just be going with Bair by himself until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted January 24, 2024 Report Share Posted January 24, 2024 well the way things are SK wont be giving any inclination as to who we are looking at until there signed incase any of the other sneaky basta teams nick in with more money, the quieter the better then BOOM new no 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted January 25, 2024 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 15 hours ago, MJC said: That’s true and yes it is much easier to say he’s been a failure after six months of him being here rather than when he signed. Every signing we make is a gamble, I know that and I accept it. But regardless of what I or anyone else thought before he had kicked a ball for us the fact in the matter is that this is another signing made during the summer that didn’t work out. The manager and the head of scouting are the ones paid to take responsibility for signings and are in a better position than anyone in the support or this forum to judge a player, or so you would hope anyway. Yes, but there's only so much that a recruitment team and manager can do when they are recruiting players. From virtually every angle the Shaw signing looked like a sound piece of business. He's 25 years old, Scottish and knows our league, he has scored 24 goals in our top division with Hibs, Kilmarnock and Ross County, and 23 in the lower leagues of Scotland. In fairness, he started two league games for us and scored two goals. In one of those starts, he came off injured after less than an hour and had been deployed as an attacking midfielder rather than a forward. As a sub, the most time he got on the park was 30 minutes against Rangers. Would it have been different had he gotten a run of actual starts? We'll never know. The stats would suggest he would have found the net for us, but he didn't really get much of a chance beyond coming on with anywhere from ten to twenty minutes to play in games. I could accept criticism of how Kettlewell utilised him for sure, but criticism of the actual signing? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted January 25, 2024 Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 35 minutes ago, David said: In fairness, he started two league games for us and scored two goals. Surely you mean he asisted in 2 goals David? He didn't score at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted January 25, 2024 Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 Nothing against Shaw at all and I agree that his signing made sense. The fact that his loan has been cut short suggests to me that there will be a forward signing up soon. There's no way that Shaw would have been allowed to leave if there was no-one coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted January 25, 2024 Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: Nothing against Shaw at all and I agree that his signing made sense. The fact that his loan has been cut short suggests to me that there will be a forward signing up soon. There's no way that Shaw would have been allowed to leave if there was no-one coming in. Shaw could well have been on his way out anyway but he's obviously still injured, as he's back at Barnsley to 'continue his rehabilitation'. His signing made sense in as much as he was a last minute panic buy who Kettlewell knew from Ross County, but he hadn't scored in a year when he arrived and you could see he was totally devoid of confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted January 25, 2024 Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 In about 16 attempts Shaw didn't score once........a bit like my record in Hamilton Palace in the early nineties!! 😜😜 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfc Posted January 25, 2024 Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 32 minutes ago, grizzlyg said: In about 16 attempts Shaw didn't score once........a bit like my record in Hamilton Palace in the early nineties!! 😜😜 It's good to know your chat up lines are just as good as your jokes 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted January 25, 2024 Report Share Posted January 25, 2024 1 hour ago, bobbybingo said: you could see he was totally devoid of confidence. No he was just fkin rotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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