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1 minute ago, steelboy said:

I was just pointing out that KVV's goals per game from his flop move are still clearly better than Bair who is somehow considered a good signing now.

KVV's personality was clearly the issue over there.

Bair's considered a reasonable signing now because he's scored 6 goals, most of which have helped win us points. At the end of the day Kilmarnock are shelling out on Van Veen to help them finish in 3rd or 4th place. No one can say that's now guaranteed.

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4 minutes ago, thewelllfan said:

If we don't get a striker in just can't really see us avoiding that relegation play off squads now

 

Kelly/Oxborough

Mcginn/SOD/Butcher/Casey/Blaney

Devine/Elliot  Miller/Davor/Paton/Halliday/Maguire/Slattery(INJ) Montgommery/Gent/Jill

Spittal/Nicholson

Bair/Vale/Obika

Still short of a St and an experienced cb

A horror show of a squad.

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2 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:

reasonable signing now because he's scored 6 goals, most of which have helped win us points. At the end of the day Kilmarnock are shelling out on Van Veen to help them finish in 3rd or 4th place. No one can say that's now guaranteed.

They won't get 3rd.

Top six gets them a home game where they can sell two stands to Rangers. 5th gets them Europe. They have Cove at home in the Cup so there's a good chance they either get an Old Firm tie in the next round or make the semi final. 

If we had been a bit smarter with our business in the summer we could easily be in a similar position. 

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1 minute ago, grizzlyg said:

I am a positive guy but this is just bonkers now. We now have 4 guys capable of playing right back and 3 guys capable of left back. But up front we have Bair...Vale and a crock.

Well that should just about cover us for injuries in this positions 😂

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So far we have added

Midfield - Halliday

Midfield - Nicholson

LWB - Montgomery (injured)

RWB - Elliot

RWB - Devine

LWB - Bubayu

FWD - Vale

I agree we need one more striker. But I think thats a pretty decent attempt at addressing the weaknesses in the squad.

We can argue all day whether we should have pushed the boat out for KVV or not. Personally, I feel it would have been a boost for the team and support to get him. But I wouldnt have been paying silly money for the privelege. There are no guarantees in football, so everything is a risk. 

Brophy would be a good signing in the Halliday mould. Experienced, knows the league and could hit the ground running. He or someone similar would complete the set.

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7 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Squad composition does seem a bit odd now. Definitely a bit short in central defence and up front and awash with wing backs.

Wouldn't say we were short in Central defence in terms of numbers, quality maybe.

Blaney Casey Mugabi Butcher plus McGinn and ODonnell who can also play there.

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1 minute ago, steelboy said:

They won't get 3rd.

Top six gets them a home game where they can sell two stands to Rangers. 5th gets them Europe. They have Cove at home in the Cup so there's a good chance they either get an Old Firm tie in the next round or make the semi final. 

If we had been a bit smarter with our business in the summer we could easily be in a similar position. 

I wouldn't think they've a realistic chance of getting 3rd either, but I'll bet some at Rugby Park do now.

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1 minute ago, santheman said:

Wouldn't say we were short in Central defence.

Blaney Casey Mugabi Butcher plus McGinn and ODonnell who can also play there.

We've got numbers in central defence its just that they have all been dross this season,the level of goals we concede is embarrassing.kettlewell came in last season and made us hard to beat,it's obvious he isn't able to do that this time around,we badly needed a new centre half to try and help get us going again and up the performance of the ones that have let us down all season.

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5 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:

Squad composition does seem a bit odd now. Definitely a bit short in central defence and up front and awash with wing backs.

Are we though?

Montgomery was brought in as cover/ to allow us to push Gent further forward.

Due to his injury we have gone out and got Bubayu.

We all know SOD and McGinns deficiencies at RWB so we have gone out and got Elliot and Devine as cover or perhaps to push one further forward to replicate the partnership on the right.

I would guess with SOD, McGinn, Mugabi, Casey, Blaney and Butcher all able to play CB then there. Probably one or two too many there, but they are are all currently on the books.

I think midfield wise we look not too bad now with Davor, Miller, Halliday, Paton, Nicholson, Spittal.

Undoubtedly we are short up top though. Need another one in sharpish!

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2 minutes ago, mfc said:

We've got numbers in central defence its just that they have all been dross this season,the level of goals we concede is embarrassing.kettlewell came in last season and made us hard to beat,it's obvious he isn't able to do that this time around,we badly needed a new centre half to try and help get us going again and up the performance of the ones that have let us down all season.

Got your reply in before I'd finished  editing mine but we're on the same page.

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