grizzlyg Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 Not great performance but 3pts the priority. Definitely feel we need another striker as not confident with Obika and Wilkinson but early days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 A wins a win, not a classic but the three points are most welcome. Queens retained the ball well early in the game passing confidently at the back but they kept over hitting long balls out the park. They had a spate of corners around the ten minute mark and it was around then I felt we started to click a bit. I felt we were our own worst enemy at times as Casey was one of the early offenders with a slack pass out of the back. On a few occasions we regained possession and played a ball forward but we were a bit static up top. Despite his miss it was nice to see Obika get some luck with his goal. That big number 5 in defence for Queens was having a nightmare it was a shame Obika couldn't punish him and the keeper for that miscommunication. It was quite funny when Wilkinson dinked the ball away from the keeper as he was rolling it out only for the long range effort to clip the bar. Special mention to Dom Thomas, he had three free kicks in useful positions and over hit each and everyone. Tough game as expected, we had a similar game against them at Firhill a few years ago which ended in the same scoreline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamH Posted July 22, 2023 Report Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, jonnymfc said: I'm finally going to say it. Stephen O'Donnell is stealing a wage from us. Absolutely no impact on the game ans again had an absolute shocker. New RB required. So constantly going up and down the line and making a goal saving challenge didn’t impact the game? It’s fair enough if you don’t like him but at least be factual about his performance. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Today was a struggle as I thought it would be. Still a wins a win. Thought Queens Park looked better organised, worked harder and were pacier than us but lacked something up front. Had we had a more potent strikeforce then perhaps their shaky defence would have been properly tested. They also had a stonewall penalty for handball turned down. For our part we lacked width and defended far too deeply for long spells. For whatever reason, I thought our midfield was anonymous and for longs spells didn't compete. Up front we lacked movement and an outball. Not sure yet about Wilkinson. Obika did some good supporting work but he's no goalscorer. On today's evidence we lack a decent striker and a holding midfielder (maybe the Macedonian lad will fit the bill?). Not sure yet about our two wing backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mccus28 Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 The most glaring thing for me was our absolute lack of pace, it looked like our midfield and strikers had concrete boots on which is a worry. Its early days but I think we are at least 2 short of a decent team and 4 short of a decent squad, the bench was a worry with zero impact players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodo Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 At least 4 starting players short on yesterdays performance and we must get them in soon . Front two won’t do we won’t threaten any of the teams in the league with that attack . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Yodo said: Front two won’t do we won’t threaten any of the teams in the league with that attack. They'll have to do. Can't just sack them a month into their contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwell Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 A real tough watch yesterday, all the hallmarks of a pre season friendly - which obviously it would have been before the new league cup format. Still tinkering with team and tactics, a few players not quite there yet (some seem a lot further back than others) but no reason to panic just yet. There were glimpses of a right good team in there at times too, nice movement on and off the ball, just lacking an end product. Defence was much improved from Tuesday night too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmcalpin Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Midfield concerned me last night, although Slattery had a good game in spells. For considerable periods though, it was anonymous. Queens Park competed better and looked more mobile and better organised in the engine room. It concerned me that we defended too deeply for long spells - reminiscent of how we would normally play against the better league teams. Now whether all thats thats down to lack of fitness, poor individual performances or instructions or something else I don't know. I would hope that for a large part of the second half we didn't take the view that "we'll sit on a 1 goal lead and see the game out". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 16 hours ago, steelboy said: Spittal is shite. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, ropy said: ? Don't feed the troll. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, ropy said: ? Posted immediately after he failed to put the ball into an empty net. Not the worst yesterday but he was struggling to find space with QP playing a high line due to us having two cart horses up front. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderpig Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said: Midfield concerned me last night, although Slattery had a good game in spells. For considerable periods though, it was anonymous. Queens Park competed better and looked more mobile and better organised in the engine room. It concerned me that we defended too deeply for long spells - reminiscent of how we would normally play against the better league teams. Now whether all thats thats down to lack of fitness, poor individual performances or instructions or something else I don't know. I would hope that for a large part of the second half we didn't take the view that "we'll sit on a 1 goal lead and see the game out". My main concern Dave was our lack of threat up front, the Queens Park defence is brutal, especially the big number 5 they had playing and the Keeper. Obika the less said about his miss the better, and he got out of Jail with his deflected goal he has no pace and looks like he is towing a caravan every time he runs. Wilkinson is the same for someone his Size he never put any pressure on the keeper, looked slow and generally contributed nothing. If we start the season with those two as our main strikers I have the fear as that partnership won't generate very many goals, I hope I'm wrong but I worry that unless we get a goal scorer in soon we are going to struggle big time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelmaninOZ Posted July 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 For those that haven’t seen the goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Don't want their to be an over-reaction but some of the things were seeing in these games were typical at the start of the Hammell downfall. How after 3 seasons we still have not signed a Defensive-midfielder I don't know. Feel like we lack the grit required to win the midfield battle and felt we got over-run and outworked in there. Wouldn't be against moving Butcher into midfield when hes fit and sgning an organiser to play in the middle of that back 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, thewelllfan said: How after 3 seasons we still have not signed a Defensive-midfielder Just in case you missed it: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2023/07/21/davor-zdravkovski-arrives-at-fir-park/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mad Dog said: Just in case you missed it: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2023/07/21/davor-zdravkovski-arrives-at-fir-park/ Have you seen him play? From the snippets i've seen he looks a similar profile to Slattery the only #6 we have is Maguire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelman1991 Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, thewelllfan said: Have you seen him play? From the snippets i've seen he looks a similar profile to Slattery the only #6 we have is Maguire Only because that's his squad number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 I think one thing that's guaranteed this season is that Spittal and SOD will be the whipping boys again which I find bizarre. Spittal's assists and goals record is very good, yes he makes mistakes but who doesn't?. Also I thought SOD done fine yesterday apart from some bizarre wayward passes. Had a vital clearance 2nd half which seemed to go unnoticed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spit_It_Out Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 Spittal has been fantastic for us since Kettlewell took over and SoD i think just has to move on and be replaced just feel his time with us has ran it’s course. As for the frontline I never thought Obika would be our main goal threat and what’s a tad alarming for me is Wilkinson going missing and involvement in the games he has played so far. Needs to get stuck in a bit more for me does Wilkinson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Spit_It_Out said: Spittal has been fantastic for us since Kettlewell took over and SoD i think just has to move on and be replaced just feel his time with us has ran it’s course. As for the frontline I never thought Obika would be our main goal threat and what’s a tad alarming for me is Wilkinson going missing and involvement in the games he has played so far. Needs to get stuck in a bit more for me does Wilkinson. Wilkinson had no cutting edge yesterday, maybe just not razor sharp yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsince75 Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, thewelllfan said: Have you seen him play? From the snippets i've seen he looks a similar profile to Slattery the only #6 we have is Maguire the point you made is we haven'y signed a defensive midfielder in 3 years but we have. Irrespective of how good he is we have signed him. We also signed Butcher and Paton last season for similar roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 We badly need to address the frontline. Has Steven Fletcher been signed by anyone yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelllfan Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, MJC said: We badly need to address the frontline. Has Steven Fletcher been signed by anyone yet? Not yet I'd take him as an extra option but can't help but feel we need pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 23, 2023 Report Share Posted July 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, MJC said: We badly need to address the frontline. Has Steven Fletcher been signed by anyone yet? Don't think so, I would happily take him as I know it's early days but Obika and Wilkinson as our main forward line does concern me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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